User talk:Paradise Chronicle/Archive 4

Courtesy alert: ANEW thread
Be advised that started a edit warring noticeboard thread about you. The thread is WP:ANEW. —C.Fred (talk) 14:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the courtesy message. The filer was blocked and in another thread they wrote I can add more sources if you want. But I know you will deny it because you say you are a Kurdish racist. For anyone interested: Here the whole discussion. Tough accusations, but viewing the sources they brought, anyone will see, it's nonsense. Accusing one of drug trafficking because he condemns the ones who accept money from drug traffickers? Really? I am sorry for the admins of the 3RR thread, who had to go through it.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:41, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Alois Wyrsch
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Internet Archive Scholar vs. JSTOR
Hello, I see on your user page that you use JSTOR and I'd like to know more about your experience. By my calculations, a good 70 % of the main JSTOR content is now available for everyone at Internet Archive Scholar, with full text search provided e.g. at https://scholar.archive.org/. The service is still in beta, but I've used it for some source-finding and it seems quite usable to me; I wonder whether that's just my experience. If you have a chance, the next time you'd be looking for a source on Google Scholar or JSTOR or similar, to perform the same search on IA scholar instead, I'd be curious to hear how it ends up. Thanks, Nemo 19:06, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I have been trying to use the internet scholar archive and at least until now I am not satisfied. First it didn't have two papers I was looking for, then I had to download a paper to be able to read it. All this issues I do not have with JSTOR, where I can just read the article as a PDF. But, thank you anyways, it gave me the idea to search per scholar not only per article or topic, which BTW also works pretty good on JSTOR.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, interesting. When you say that you "had to download" the paper, do you mean that you clicked the link from IA scholar and it didn't load in your browser, but it was saved locally and then you opened it outside your browser? I wonder whether that's a configurable behaviour. But you're right: there isn't a single display method, because some things (like microfilm scans) are only shown in the web viewer, while most of the OA articles archived from elsewhere are only available as PDF files. I can see how this could produce some confusion. Nemo 21:47, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

April Editathons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:45, 22 March 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

March songs
Thank you for support in the RfC! Listening to the charity concert mentioned here. I created the articles of the composer and the soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Now, you can also listen on YouTube, and more music, the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices call "Freiheit!" (freedom, instead of "Freude", joy). Music every day, pictured in songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Bach's No. 1 today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Corti
—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

FAR notices
Hi, Paradise Chronicle. I see you're having a hard time with the FAR notifications for H.D.. There are 10 WikiProjects that need to be notified; you can copy this to those WikiProject talk pages:

H.D. ~

Under a level 2 heading like == Featured article review for H.D. ==

Hope this helps; it gets LOTS easier after you've done it once or twice. Thanks for joining in at FAR! Sandy Georgia (Talk)  08:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the kind welcome message. And yes, I was struggling quite a bit and your explanation is really helpful.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 18:05, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks PC! It really does get easier.  I have a way that I set up to copy edit, copy paste and mass correct that allows me to set up and complete all notifications in about 10 minutes ... let me know next time you nominate, and I'll do it for you in steps that you can watch in my sandbox.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  21:26, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

March editathons
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:38, 27 February 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

the automation of this function is in beta testing mode—please let me know if I've screwed up! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

info on Le Pen's acceptance of defeat
It's already in the Aftermath section, which is a much better place to put it in my opinion, since the campaign section covers events before the election. ev iolite  (talk)  21:45, 24 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I saw removal of unsourced and thought it was a mishap during the editing in the results phase. Thanks for the info. As to me, the reflection of the results by Macron and Le Pen might be able to be included further up than the aftermath, but this can also be discussed later on.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Death of Hacı Lokman Birlik
Hello! Your submission of Death of Hacı Lokman Birlik at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Bruxton (talk) 21:40, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Yeni Şafak
Hello sir

"Link is rather well accessible, maybe it's access is blocked where you live" You wrote it as a note, but when I try to open the content, it gives a 404 error.

For example, all-monitor "The requested page could not be found."

Anti-Semitism, Anti-LGBT, Anti-Abortion There are open racist statements, but the site specified as the source does not exist. According to whom does unsourced content count as correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain388 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * If you're talking about this, it works fine for me too. This is a problem on your end, not "unsourced content". –&#8239;Joe (talk) 12:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * But here it does not say that the newspaper is close to Erdogan.
 * This headline belongs to a newspaper in Turkey. https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeni_%C5%9Eafak If you examine the Turkish page here, it doesn't say anything like that. Captain388 (talk) 12:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeni Safak, which is considered one of the most dedicated mouthpieces of the government.
 * Turkey's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu will carry the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) to the June 2015 general elections. The AKP, which has been addicted to electoral victories since 2002 under Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for the first time will be tested with its new chair, who, despite being handpicked, does not have the same level of charisma and appeal as his predecessor.
 * Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2014/08/turkey-erdogan-davutoglu-new-prime-minister.html#ixzz7RfRSUCRI
 * This is a copy paste from the Al Monitor article Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This is political content as you can see. You can see the same article in all newspapers in Turkey. Isn't that an indication of bias?
 * https://www.bbc.com/turkce/haberler/2014/08/140818_erdogan_2015
 * For example, similar things are written in the bbc news here. Is the BBC pro-Erdogan?
 * You know that political names are temporary companies are permanent. I don't think it's right that way, but the discretion is yours. The newspaper doesn't belong to me, it doesn't hurt me if it's like that :) Captain388 (talk) 08:45, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The discussion is about a phrase you contested which was sourced by three different sources. And good to know that if the phrase can stay, it doesn't hurt you.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Death of Hacı Lokman Birlik
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 4 May 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:41, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your efforts for DYK.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 09:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * happy to help :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 18:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Verena Conzett
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Made it to the statistics page! (Even if it was just barely...pretty phenomenal given the topic.) Congratulations and thanks again. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 10:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Soccer and butterflies
You only have a few days to come up with hooks and nominate that soccer field. I will see if I can come up with one when you nominate. I have begun expansion on Mechanitis - it is not in my wheelhouse, but it has the most interesting chrysalis. Have a look. Bruxton (talk) 03:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the update. I have nominated mine now. I'll have a look at the Mechanitis.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:47, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I added a hook and credit for me. :) Bruxton (talk) 13:53, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks and sorry. I also thought to add you a bit later.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Check out the butterfly. It is 5x ATM. But needs some fine tuning Bruxton (talk) 16:19, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that you did not have a QPQ on the soccer article. I have a few that I have not used. So I will add one. Bruxton (talk) 17:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd like to offer a review in return when you need one. And as to my count we have one or two more days for the butterflies.00:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC) Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Just noticed you have nominated it already.:) Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:58, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Rather timely, so to say. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Ottmar Hitzfeld Arena
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 23 May 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:21, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Juneteenth flag

 * Juneteenth flag could use some editing. I started expanding it and there is room to expand... in hopes of getting it on DYK for June 19th. Can you help with the expansion? Bruxton (talk) 23:33, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I nominated it after expanding 5x. I was worried about getting it approved in the short time available. But it can still use fresh eyes. Bruxton (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. After having seen how many bytes there would still need to come, I thought it might be a tough one and was a bit discouraged. But I'll have a look and see what I can add.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I know that the lead time for a special occasion is a factor so I worked pretty fast. Right now there is a debate about the image and whether it can be used. The consensus seems to be no. Thankfully someone approved the rest of the nomination. Perhaps you can still proof it? Bruxton (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Under the current copyright status it is also to me not good enough. The flag was created recently (in terms of copyright status)  and as to my understanding then either the copyright owner needs to publish it into commons (with the knowledge of the commons organism) which this flag was not. Your argument that it flew from Government buildings might work, but only for the flying flags from the flagpole of the Government building and not for the flag itself. Copyright is difficult, I have also had to learn. As to me, lets be satisfied with the hook ready for Juneteenth, and leave the copyright issue for another time we are more interested in it.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

June events from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DYK for Mehmet Sıraç Bilgin
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Copy editors
Hi, the copy editors just completed work on the article you started. Death of Hacı Lokman Birlik. Also, I wonder if you might help me with an article I was whipping into shape. It is about a novel called June Rain. I came across it on NPP. It probably still needs some copy editing, perhaps more plot, and then a hook. I have two QPQs that I can use when we nominate. Bruxton (talk) 17:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Great timing. It's raining very much where I live at the moment. Let's see what I can add to the article in question. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Permanent Representative of Switzerland to the United Nations
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Another
I found this stub. Another shiny bug. Chrysina limbata We could easily expand it. Bruxton (talk) 00:52, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Let's reach a consensus
Hello Paradise Chronicle. I've realized that you've undone my edit in Sivas. I would like to resolve this issue.

WP:PLACE states that "The title can be allowed in the first line by a list of alternative names in parentheses, e.g.: Gulf of Finland" and that "Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or that is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted".

However, this is not needed when "Alternatively, all alternative names can be listed and explained in a "Names" or "Etymology" section immediately following the lead, or a special paragraph of the lead".

This article has a "Name" section, so there is no need to repeat these in the lead.

If the translations mentioned in the lead are not in the said section, please feel free to transfer them there. TheMiddleMan69 (talk) 19:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, yeah I was just trying to answer you at the Semsuri talk page. I saw your rationale WP:Place but in the case of Turkey, the place names have not evolved voluntarily or because they were no longer in use, but forced Turkification, therefore many place names in Greek, Armenian, or Kurdish etc. are actually still in use. Then also in the case of Sivas, the original name Sebasteia is the etymology for every Sebastian we know, which is probably something of the most interesting in the whole Sivas article for the average wikipedia reader. I mean the redirect Sebasteria leads to Sivas and if the average reader thinks they were mislead because they didn't get to the end of the lead. Similar it goes with other Turkish place names that have other place names in other languages right after the bold name. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello again PC, I understand that you are upset over the Turkification of city names, but unfortunately WP:PLACE holds that when there's a "Name" or "Etymology" section in the article, there is no need to repeat the translations which are mentioned in the section, in the lead.
 * As for your concerns over people thinking they have been redirected to the wrong article, this is highly unlikely as in this case, Sebastia is used only for Sivas. No one can be confused at such a thing if they're searching with that name, as they are aiming to search for the city - and like you know, there's only names Sebastia. And this shouldn't even be an issue because the translations are mentioned right after the lead in the Etymology/Name section, as is required by WP:PLACE. It's not like the translations are deep in the article in some random place.
 * I suggest that you add the translations in the lead which are not mentioned in the "Name" section to said section. Then, the translations can be removed from the lead, as is WP guidelines. Thanks for your reply. TheMiddleMan69 (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * From WP:PLACE This page in a nutshell: Use modern English names for titles and in articles. Historical names or names in other languages can be used in the lead if they are frequently used and important enough to be valuable to readers, and should be used in articles with caution.
 * Answer from me:
 * If the place name is in use by historians and other scholars and/or the/its population it is a valuable information for the reader. I suggest we go locality by locality as explained before, many place names are still in use, well known or of importance for the former or current population. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:PLACE: "Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or that is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted. Local official names should be listed before other alternate names if they differ from a widely accepted English name."
 * Right after this paragraph it states:
 * "Alternatively, all alternative names can be listed and explained in a "Names" or "Etymology" section immediately following the lead, or a special paragraph of the lead; it is recommended to have such a section if there are at least three alternate names, or there is something notable about the names themselves."
 * Since this section exists, there really is no need to repeat the translations in the lead when they're stated only a paragraph or two after the lead. TheMiddleMan69 (talk) 20:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I've just checked the Sivas article and there's nothing to transfer to the "Name" section of the article, the Greek and Kurdish names of the city are already mentioned there, and I will add that the city is called the same in Latin & Greek, as is stated in the lead. Any objections? If so, why? Please note that this edit is necessary as it is a guideline, as I've highlighted above. Thanks. TheMiddleMan69 (talk) 21:37, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I repeat myself: WP:PLACE This page in a nutshell: Use modern English names for titles and in articles. Historical names or names in other languages can be used in the lead if they are frequently used and important enough to be valuable to readers. I'll gladly go to any noticeboard of your choice. But I won't suggest it, as removing an alternate name whose redirect leads to the page doesn't seem logic. See WP:POFR which is also a guideline. The example for alternate name is Pelé who's full name is Edson Arantes do Nascimento which is also mentioned in the lead apart of the section Early life where on the name is expanded in several phrases. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:59, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You seem to solely focus on the very short summary of the article without reading the relevant details within it (which I've outlined to you). WP:POFR states "Alternative names redirect to the most appropriate article title"; said redirects in Sivas are already stated in the "Name" section of the article, nowhere in WP:POFR does it state that the alternative names (which have been turned into a redirect) must be stated in the lead.
 * See Thessaloniki as a prominent example; since the Turkish name is mentioned in the "Names and etymology" section of the article, it is not allowed into the lead, despite "Selanik" also redirecting to the page. This is how it should be, per WP:PLACE. TheMiddleMan69 (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * But WP:PLACE does not prohibit the inclusion of other languages in the lead it actually shows examples how to do it.
 * The lead: The title can be followed in the first line by a list of alternative names in parentheses, e.g.: Gulf of Finland (Estonian: Soome laht; Finnish: Suomenlahti; Russian: Финский залив, Finskiy zaliv; Swedish: Finska viken) is a large bay in the easternmost arm of the Baltic Sea.
 * Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or that is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted.
 * Other relevant language names may appear in alphabetic order of their respective languages – i.e., (Estonian: Soome laht; Finnish: Suomenlahti; Russian: Финский залив, Finskiy zaliv; Swedish: Finska viken). Separate languages should be separated by semicolons.
 * Where there is such a section (Name Section), the article's first line should have only a link to the section, phrased, for example: "(known also by several alternative names)". When there are several significant alternate names, the case for mentioning the names prominently is at least as strong as with two.
 * For example:
 * Sivas (in Latin and Greek: Sebastia, Sebastea, Σεβάστεια, Σεβαστή) Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

November 2022 ==  You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did  at Peoples' Protection Units. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 11:14, 21 November 2022 (UTC) :I meant this edit Paradise Chronicle (talk) 11:16, 21 November 2022 (UTC)  ::Terrorists and their supporters have no place in society or online, let alone Wikipedia. Thank you for proving my argument. 46.31.118.93 (talk) 06:11, 24 November 2022 (UTC) ==

Thank you for proving my argument. 46.31.118.93 (talk) 06:14, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in July 2022
--Lajmmoore (talk) 15:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DYK for Paola Cabezas
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

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Accidentally deleted talk page
Hi, I accidentally deleted the entirety of my talk page. Let's discuss here

I have a hard time understanding why it concerns a few people so much that the modern location of the place a person was born/died in is mentioned in their infoboxes. This has been done since the start of Wikipedia and is supported by most people - as evidenced by all the "modern-day, present-day, now" etc. in the infoboxes of people. For example, no one is saying that a person's a Turk because the place they were born in turns out to be located in modern-day Turkey. It is simply an informative addition - an interesting and much-needed one, which may lead people to research more on a person and subsequently e.g. find out where their resting place is.

If you disagree with this procedure, feel free to complain to Wikipedia or to the relevant people. Thanks. zenzyyx_ (talk) 19:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Okay I just restored my talk page. Feel free to reply there or here zenzyyx_ (talk) 19:59, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Just thought about explaining you how to restore your talk page:). I guess it is better to go a forum where to discuss this, but for me it is also not correct. It remembers me of the Turkish History Thesis that claimed Greeks and most other cultures have a Turkish origin which is simply not the case. But we might both be wrong and you are right. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:14, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Paradise Chronicle That was the first time I accidentally wiped out my entire talk page, had difficulties restoring it 😅
 * Rest assured that I'm not involved in any of these theories. My only goal is to mention the modern place of which a person was born/died in - doesn't matter which country. Might seem weird to you but it is fun for me to research all these different ancient locations from which people hailed from, and then see what the modern version of said place looks like. zenzyyx_ (talk) 20:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Luz del Carmen Ibáñez Carranza
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for changing a red link at User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace into a blue link! If you feel like contributing to peace process articles, then feel free to browse the draft wikiproject page for suggestions. Boud (talk) 23:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)