User talk:Parishan/Archive 2008

FYI: ArbCom Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case
Please see Requests for arbitration. -- Cat chi? 18:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Zaifband.JPG listed for deletion
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Warning
Your removal of UNHCR sourcing at Azerbaijani Jews‎ is not acceptable; just because you have another source contradicting it does not mean you are allowed to remove sourced material. - Penwhale &#124; Blast him / Follow his steps 21:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Dov Gazit
Borys is shortened form for Borislav The boy's name Boris \b(o)-ris\ is pronounced BOR-iss. It is of Russian and Slavic origin, and its meaning is "small; battle glory". Originally from the Tartar nickname Bogoris, then used as a shortened form of the Russian name Borislav

BORYS Pochodzenia starosłowiańskiego, jako skrót od Borysława, oznacza: waleczny i sławny. Niektórzy uważają, że imię to przynieśli z Azji Bułgarzy. W wersji mongolskiej oznacza: mały, biedny. Inne formy: Borysław, Borzysław, Borysz, Borzysz. Obce formy: Borislaus (łac.), Boris, Borisav, Borislav (ogólnie przyj. forma), Bogoris (fr.), Vorislaos (gr.), Borisas (litew.), Borisz (węg.). Forma żeńska: Borysława.

Borys =	 "Borislav" - "bor" means fight, "slav" means "fame"

Boris je mužské křestní jméno slovanského původu. Obvykle je považováno za zkrácenou verzi jména Borislav - „proslavený bojem“, nebo Borimír - „bojuj se světem za mír“ nebo „podněcuj svět“. Někdy se také označuje za zkráceninu jména bulharského vládce Bogorise (z mongolského bogori - „malý“).

Since Dov Gazit is of Russian decent, his Russian name "Borys" was the shortened form of "Borislav", i.e., we can eliminate "Boromir"Birnam11:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Greeks
Because there was no info in the article at that time. If you have a reference, then you can add it. I'm not stopping you. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 18:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Resolution
Let's resolve this: Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-01-18 Syunik -- Aivazovsky (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't feel like arguing with you. It's a waste of my time. I still disagree with your position but as long as the section has a disputed tag, then that's fine. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 20:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Parishan
we have got an article Yeraz. Please have a look. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.189.187.251 (talk) 21:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Award
Iberieli (talk) 00:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Здравствуйте
У вас на странице указано, что вы свободно владете русским, если вы не против я объясню отмену вашей правки по-русски. Вы утверждаете, что название Агстафа чаще употребляется в вашей первой ссылке на странице 6 указано Aghstev/Agstafa, а не Агстафа. вот тут обсуждается преименование статьи на русской Википедии, там я привел карты СССР, более поздние, чем приведенная вами ссылка на большую советскую энциклопедию и там указано Агстев. Вы так же необсуждали переименование, так то мой откат был вполне оправдан.Gragg (talk) 06:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Did You Know? nomination
Hi. I've nominated Surat Huseynov, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, Collegebookworm (talk) 08:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats on its success! See it now on the main page!  CB (  ö)  06:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Shamakhi Dancers
Please help to improve the article Shamakhi Dancers.

Signature
--Arkankipcak (talk) 21:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I do read the edits
Using such language doesn't seems to be positive and polite. Please becareful in talking with other editors. Reverting your edit, was not only getting back of a repetitious phrase that was already contained in the body , but also getting back of a Disambiguation link. This links are extremely important for the readers and should not be deleted without a good reason --Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't know how did you find out about my so-called hidden reasons, but please note that the article is not about definition of the Azeri ethnicity but to inform about the Azeri Americans, then there is no need to repeat the definition of that ethnicity in that article,and it should be mentioned in the beginning that this article gives no information about the Iranian Azeris and is talking about the Az.Republic Azeris. The goal in Wikipedia is to inform the reader about the topic and giving false information can't be justified in Wikipedia. As an example, the first Iranian ambassador to USA was an Iranian Azeri , as late as 18th century and I'm sure the Iranian Azeris are much more older than what article says about "after World War II". By your especial sensitivity to name Iranian Azeris as Azeris alone, the article may be a prototype of badly ambiguous articles. Please consider the accuracy of the article as the primary goal. Thank you --Alborz Fallah (talk) 15:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You add this note to my talk page :"Your constant deletion of references to Iran from that article leads me to certain conclusions. Even the source itself defines Azerbaijanis as an ethnic group who lives in both Azerbaijan and Iran, despite not mentioning Iranian Azeris much within the Azerbaijani immigrant community. There might not have been enough research carried out, or lack of data, or other methodological reasons for not including them, - that is not the point. The point is, Iranian Azeris are accounted for as members of the global Azerbaijani ethnic community by the source, and your constant deletion of references to them can be interpreted as fear that Iranian Azeris are being 'torn off' the main Iranian immigrant body. That is NOT the case. Nobody is challenging the cultural affiliation of Iranian Azeris with Iran. That was the whole point of adding the 'Middle Eastern Americans' template into the article. The Azeris in that template were even added as an 'appendix' to other Iranians. In addition, the 'European Americans' template has a footnote referring to Iranian Azeris. Is this all not enough for a third-party reader to understand that, yes, Iranian Azeris are also Iranian Americans? Why do you keep deleting that information, why do you keep limiting Azerbaijani Americans to immigrants from Azerbaijan only, when that is clearly not the case? Also, before you decide to make any changes to the article, see the talkpage."

Blue Mosque
Parishan, your contributions are highly valued here. However, they are not when you make comments such as these. Please calm down, there are better ways to resolve this dispute than resorting to incivility. There are complaints about your comments here, and I have to say that I agree that you should tone it down. Perhaps if the dispute drags on further you can make a formal request for mediation. However, please refrain from making further uncivil comments. As I'm sure you're already aware, but certain users can be placed on restrictions related to the second Armenia-Azerbaijan arbitration case. Now this is a road that I'm sure you don't want to go down, so please stay cool and avoid similar comments in the future. If you have any further questions about this particular dispute or others you can leave a note on my talk page, but I'm going to make a comment that you've been warned in regards to your comment at Talk:Blue Mosque, Yerevan at the arbitration enforcement page. Thanks in advance. Khoikhoi 04:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Armenian Turks
Are they Azerbaijanis? Or they are merely Turks from Armenia? So they are nor Iranians neither Azerbaijanis.--Faikpro (talk) 12:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

cewap
bak qardeş azeri türklerde bulunan pezemek rus isimleri (ov, ev gibi) sildim onun yerine oğlu koydum. bazıları geri getir. he kurban —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sporcu (talk • contribs) 20:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Old text source
When you created the article Azeris in Iran (now Iranian Azeris in your 02:40, 21 August 2006 edit, you used text from somewhere which had embedded footnotes. I am trying to fix those footnotes, but it would help to know where the text came from originally.  I haven't found Higgins, but Shaffer is Shaffer, Brenda (2003) Borders and Brethren: Iran and the Challenge of Azerbaijani Identity MIT Press, Cambrudge, Mass., ISBN 0262194775.  The text you used read:
 * Many others live in Tehran, Karaj and other regions.(ref name="Library of Congress Iran")Azarbaijanis(/ref) Generally, Azeris in Iran have been, "a well integrated linguistic minority", according to academics such as anthropologist Patricia Higgins.(ref name="ISBN6")pp.188-191(/ref) In fact, until the Pahlavi period in the 20th century, "the identity of Iran was not exclusively Persian, but supra-ethnic", as much of the political leadership, starting from the 11th century, had been Turkic.(ref name="ISBNShaffer")Ibid.(/ref) The Iranian and Turkic groups were integrated until 20th century nationalism and communalism began to alter popular perception.(ref name="ISBNShaffer")Ibid.(/ref) Despite friction, Azerbaijanis in Iran came to be well represented at all levels of, "political, military, and intellectual hierarchies, as well as the religious hierarchy."{ref name="ISBN6")Ibid.(/ref)


 * I have converted the brackets to parenthesis so that the footnotes are visible. You can see the problem.  Can you tell me where the text came from? --Bejnar (talk) 22:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks anyway, I found it. It was the Azerbaijani people article. --Bejnar (talk) 23:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Mass redirects?
Hi Parishan, I wonder if you could shed some light on the mass redirects you've done on a number of articles just recently? My understanding is that it is OK to create wikipedia articles on historical districts/provinces. For example, there is an article on Mingrelia eventhough that province no longer exists and the historical province is part of a province named Samegrelo-Zemo Svaneti. I realize that the articles that you redirected could use some work and sources however if sources can be provided, they would make for some interesting articles. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 06:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

To Parishan about the Massaget
Salam Parishan,Massaget is derived from Maz Saka= the Great Saka, it is a word of Iranic root. The Albanian Maskout and Massaget are not necessarily related. Also Khazars came much later and there is no evidence that there were any tribes called Massaget among the Khazars, and moreover no evidence that they came to the Caucasus. Tell me exactly where in the sources says such a thing. Thanks. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Church_of_Caucasian_Albania"--Babakexorramdin (talk) 11:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * well thanks for the source. I will read it and investigate it more. It is true that Massagets were related to the Alans . They both were the ancient East Iranian speaking Scythians. However the location and the time of massagets are different. Massagets lived in the 6 century BC in Central Asia, while Alans who came to the Caucasus did it from the Northern Caucasus at around 7 century AD. Maybe the author speculates that the offsprings of the Massagets from Central Asia, came together with the Alans to the Caucasus, much later?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 14:30, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Atashgah of Baku
Atashgah of Baku

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atashgah_of_Baku

You are needed here. Despite the abundance of Local Azeri Zoroastrian accounts, some Indians push still theire POV--Babakexorramdin (talk) 13:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)