User talk:Parkwells/Archive 4

=Jan to Dec 2010=

Important Wine Project discussion needs input!
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February 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content (particularly if you change facts and figures), as you have to the article Giselher Klebe, please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Defender of torch (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Blood Quantum Laws
Hey Parkwells. I just wanted to say nice job with updating the Blood Quantum Laws article. I haven't had much time to do much cause my classes are pretty intense this semester. I'll probably get to update a few things this weekend if i get the time.Mcelite (talk) 16:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

St. John Passion
Thanks for clarifying the St. Matthew Passion and Mendelssohn. But I would prefer to have these lines somewhere else in the article (history? comparison?) and would hope for a lead that states the special qualities of St. John - not only in a comparison talking at length about the history of the compared piece. I feel you could do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Good point - can do.--Parkwells (talk) 19:11, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of African American culture
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article following its listing at Good articles/Cleanup listing. You are being notified as you have made a number of contributions to the article. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:African American culture/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 13:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Kahnawake
Thanks very much with your help on the Kahnawake (especially the internal relations with whites section) article - Tonkaboy74

Cheddar
Please do not move articles to titles which contraviene Wikipedia guidelines and naming conventions. I suggest you read up on the appropriate guidelines before you attempt any further moves, in this case WP:UKPLACE. Thanks. Jeni ( talk ) 00:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Have been twice corrected; it was an oversight in edit overdrive.--Parkwells (talk) 14:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop being so good!!!!!!!!! LOL

Stephens City
I went to find the history section I was to reference this afternoon and it was gone. You have been working like crazy on this History section. Nice work! :) If you don't mind, I am going to move some of the pictures around.  I had them in a left, right, left configuration so they weren't clumped together.  Feel free to move them around some more, it won't take put a couple clicks to move them back to the left, right, left setup again :)  Otherwise, some very good work on your part today. :) -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 19:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * In the lead and on one sentence in the history section, there is a link to antebellum. This goes to a disambig page.  I am not sure what part you are wanting to link to though, so I haven't changed the link, but I thought I would let you know. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 20:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Park, hope your day is going well. I was wondering (and not to rush you) how much more work was needed on the Stephens City page?  I was going to resubmit it for Good Article Review, but didn't want to jump the gun until after you had finished.  If you could let me know (again, no rush if you aren't done) and we can plan out when to take it to GAR.  Thanks for your hard work on the page.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 18:32, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, need to work on something else today, and take a break before looking more at this. It would be helpful to have Ridinger and others look, too. Probably will not be able to finish before early next week.--Parkwells (talk) 20:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, that is totally OK. You deserve a break with the hard work you have done.  I think Ridinger said he would be back on Monday, so we can continue then.  If you need help on a project you are working on, let me know so I can return the favor. :) -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 20:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
-  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 23:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Sherando High School‎
If you want (and have time later on), please feel free to edit down the Sherando High School article. That thing is a plethora of original research and I don't know how to make heads or tails of it. You are doing great work on both the Stephens City and Winchester pages (I follow both of course) and the Sherando High School page (follow that one too). Nicely done. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 23:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Tribe population numbers
Hi Parkwells,

I noticed you have been adding info boxes to many of the Virginia tribes recently and I wanted to say that was a great idea. I think it really adds to the articles. Having said that I wanted to get your thoughts on changing "total population" to "tribal members" or something similar. The reason is that I think saying the number is of tribal members is more accurate as there are more people that could be tribal members but are not for various reasons. One of Helen C Rountree's books is where I get this information from. What are your thoughts on this?Sarah1607 (talk) 15:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Whatever the reason for the addition of the info box it was a great idea. If you add one to the other Virginia tribe's pages I have the tribal numbers for all the state recognized tribes except the Nottoway Indians of Virginia.  I would do it myself, but don't know how and may not get the chance anytime soon.  I think doing something similar to what the Osage page has would be great, though no book I have read has actual numbers for non-tribal members.  Basically Rountree simply says that about 3 to 4 times the number of tribal members are eligible for membership.  At this point making a note next to the number saying it is the number of tribal members would probably be the best route to take.  What do you think about that? Sarah1607 (talk) 20:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I have not found tribal member information for the Nottoway Indians of Virginia yet, but when I do I will add it to the article. I also wanted to say thanks for adding information about the Upper Mattaponi, as there is no article about them yet.  It is one of many things I have been planning to do and have not gotten to yet.  I will add their numbers to the article.Sarah1607 (talk) 20:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comment on my talk page. I am flattered that I set an example that was instructive to you.  I agree that no matter the topic there is always still work to be done.  I look forward to seeing more of your great ideas as well.  Until we collaborate again.Sarah1607 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:29, 15 May 2010 (UTC).

Thanks
Thanks, I have been trying to make the information about the Virginia Indians better on here. It has been great collaborating with you as well. I tend to think more than one head is best anyway as more can usually be brought to the table that way. I too think it would be great to have this kind of effort put in all across the board. Funnily enough I am not a native Virginian and yet I could not do this kind of thing for the tribes in my home state. Guess the Virginia tribes just caught my interest and now I try to help get the right information out there as best I can. Since there is still more work to be done I'm sure we will collaborate again. I look forward to it. Sarah1607 (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Iowa Tribe
Thanks for the cleanup! Bill Whittaker (talk) 18:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Great Sioux War of 1876–77
Hi, a discussion is starting at Talk:Great Sioux War of 1876-77 about the emphasis of the role of the Cheyenne in the conflict. I would like to hear your opinion. Thanks. CosmicPenguin ( talk• WP:WYOHelp! ) 03:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Stephens City, Virginia (Part 2)
Hey Park, I was wondering if you are busy with other projects tomorrow, if we could finish up on the Stephens City page. I think it is pretty close to ready to be sent back to GAR, but want to wait until you are finished. Let me know if we can work on this tomorrow (or even tonight if you aren't tired) and I will ship it off to GAR and see what they think of it and get back with you if more is needed or not. Thanks again for your help. Take Care.... NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 03:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * JonRidinger‎ and I are dicussing and working on the Stephens City page. If you would like to join in on the discussion and work being done, please feel free.  Please see the "Stephens City (The Sequel)" section of Jon's talk page (waaay at the bottom).  Thanks... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 03:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I wanted to let you know that I am unblocked. You can see the reason why on my talk page, bottom section.


 * I read your post on the Stephens City talk page. Enjoy your "out of town" time and have fun :)  Hope to "see" you around the Wiki when you get back and look forward to working with you on the page.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 00:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey There, got the big Peer Review back on the Stephens City page. Looks like the page needs a tad bit more work, but it is in good shape so far.  All the information by the reviewer is at the link here. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 03:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey Park, hope all in your neck of the woods is good. I was wondering if we could pick up where we all left off on the Stephens City article.  The peer review has been done (see the above post for the link) and there are somethings I am not sure I have the skills to do but I know you do.  Please let me know if we can do this sometime this evening, as I would like to get the page to GAR.  Take Care Dude... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 23:11, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Park, sorry about not getting back to your sooner (family emergency...all is currently well). Yeah, that page will take days from ya.  I have been working on it for over 2 1/2 years off and on.  This has been my longest push on the page knowing how close we are to GAR and with the great help of you and JonRidinger.  I can only ask you give what you can give and no more.  If you feel you are putting effort into it that is getting in the way of other projects and offline time and wish to leave it there, I will completely understand.  You have been a HUGE help so far and definitely gotten this page closer to GA status than anyone in the past 2 1/2 years I have been working on it.  I thank you for your work so far and whatever work you do in the future.  If and when this page is GA or (maybe one day) FA material, I will be the first to present you with a userbox for your work.  Thank you.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 00:02, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Black church - me bad
Sorry about that edit on Absalom Jones. I need to read things a bit more carefully next time. Mangoe (talk) 13:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Great work
Hi Parkwells. I just wanted to say I've noticed your work--it's good, detailed, useful, and broad. When I first began editing here I spent a lot of time focused on the early history of the American southeast. Since then I've shifted to working mostly on Pacific Northwest topics, but still have many southeast pages watchlisted. There's quite a few I worked on, or even created, years ago that needed more work but sat around gathering dust until you came along. Just noticed your edits at Guale, for example. It almost seems like you are working through everything I had also worked on a few years back. I always meant to continue to improve these pages but have shifted focus. So, thanks for "taking over"! You do a better job that I would have anyway. Pfly (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Olivia Ward Bush
Hi Parkwells. I want to take the time to say thank you very much for working on the Olivia Ward Bush article. I haven't had the time to really work on it and update. It's much appreciated.Mcelite (talk) 00:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion on policy
There have been regular difference of opinion in article deletion debates regarding NPOV application. It's an intersecting of WP:WAX the final entry on legitimate usage, WP:BIAS and the current reading of WP:NPOV. I hopefully summarized my case effectively here. Alatari (talk) 06:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Nakota
Hi Parkwells. There are messages for you at the Nakota talk page. Thanks. --Jeanambr (talk) 12:27, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Pompey, NY
I like your edits to Pompey, NY. Thanks for them.

One question: is the deleted information about notable residents all contained within in the linked articles themselves?

Don Argus jr (talk) 06:31, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

A Userbox
With your help, together we brought the Stephens City, Virginia article to Good Article status. May I be the first to award you the following userbox and thank you for helping me on this article. I look forward to working with you in the future as I move the article closer to Featured Article status.

Again....Thank You! :) -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 23:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Sacco and Vanzetti
Nice edits at Sacco and Vanzetti! It still needs a lot of substantive work, some of which I hope to do over the next few weeks. I hope you'll be returning and lending your editorial skills. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 19:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back to California
So much great work. 23:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Willa Cather/Winchester
Hey Park, long time, no see. Seen you pop up on my watchlist when you edited the Winchester, Virginia article and noticed you had edited the Willa Cather article. Do consider editing some on Willa Cather Birthplace, which is on the National Register of Historic Places listings in Frederick County, Virginia page. Both are kinda bare, so feel free to have some fun on those pages. :) Take Care and Have a Good Day... Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 14:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Things are going very well. Stephens City is in FAC and is hopefully going to pass, then it is off to TFA.  From there, I hope to work on a few other Stephens City related articles. :)  All and all, Wiki-Life is good. :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 17:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Happy 's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, click here. Have a Great Day... Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You're quite welcome. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 20:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Baptists in Kentucky
If you enjoyed that, you probably should visit Articles for deletion/Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions and see whether you can help with the twenty or so boilerplates that Special:Contributions/Toverton28 gave to us. Uncle G (talk) 00:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

James W. Husted (speaker)
What do you think of Jr. vs Sr., in James W. Husted (speaker). --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I am a big supporter of Sr and Jr and I, II, and III in article names and where the full name appears in the article. I always think you should follow standard genealogical naming to distinguish between generations of the same name. Read any article that doesn't and follow the links back and you will always find improper disambiguation. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:01, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The other editor keeps removing any trace of Sr and Jr, or I and II, what do you think the infobox should have? I tried to sort out all the links between the two but I think some are still wrong. Since he wont agree on Sr. or Jr, should we switch to birth and death years to distinguish them? Representative and speaker aren't very helpful to me to tell one from the other.  --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:35, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Southern Baptist Convention
Where does the article say there are 8 million members of the "National Baptist Convention U.S.A. Inc."? thanks-- in te la ti 18:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * That's from the NBC's website and I haven't added it yet.Parkwells (talk) 18:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Just checking. thanks -- in te la ti 18:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

FTP-MOI
I just wanted to express my appreciation for all the work you have done on the FTP-MOI and the Manouchian group. I hope we all continue to benefit from your contribution. Zargulon (talk) 20:01, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Paul is dead - Editing problems
Hi there. I can't say I have any personal opinion on the use of British/American English in this case, but it seems this is a solid case with which to look to our guidelines. I note our guidelines on the subject. Consistency within articles is important (and that is something mentioned by those who reverted your edits- is it possible you changed them in some places and not others?). I also note that "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the English of that nation"- it seems that the subject could be claimed to be British or American, so that's not particularly helpful in this case. However, I also note that "When an article has evolved sufficiently for it to be clear which variety it employs, the whole article should continue to conform to that variety, unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic." In this case, the article is clearly already very well developed (it was a former featured article candidate) and so, short of a consensus on the talk page that there are "strong national ties", it should not be changed from British English to American English. Radiopathy's suggestion that he would not revert your edits provided you keep UK spelling seems reasonable in this case- if you do want to change the entire article to American English, you would be best off getting consensus on the talk page first. If you don't manage to convince people, it's probably best to drop it- as the MoS notes, "the differences between the varieties are largely superficial"- note, for example, that my first featured article uses American English despite the fact I'm British. It's not really a big deal. Hope this helps. J Milburn (talk) 20:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, J Milburn - The reason there were inconsistencies in spelling is because the editors kept reverting all of the changes while I was working on it. What you suggest sounds reasonable, and I will restore the British spelling, but believe I have other substantive copy edits that should be kept. Radiopathy stopped reverting after suggesting just the use of British spelling, but Black Kite continued wholesale reversion, including restoring incorrect grammar. The article was not approved for FA, in part because of the quality of its writing.Parkwells (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Black Kite's a reasonable guy- if you calmly explain what you're doing, I'm sure he will stop reverting if your changes are accurate. J Milburn (talk) 10:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

(outdent) Re my revert and your subsequent re-application of cite fixes: okay, good stuff! BTW, I doubt that the article will ever make FA; GA maybe. Wrapped in Grey (talk) 15:42, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

would love your collaboration
www.afropedea.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.48.62 (talk) 02:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Your vandalism of War of 1812
I'm surprised at you being an experienced editor. First of all, you ought to know by this time that reverting the changes of experienced editors without discussion is forbidden. Second of all, you ought to know by this time that references and bibliographic citations have to be in "cite" format. I can only conclude you are trying to start an edit war and I recommend you stop that immediately. I shouldn't have to speak to you about this again. Now, I'm only guessing at the reason for your rash act, as you did not give me a reason. I would say you wanted a reference to the original book. However, that was NOT the reference given. Instead, the reference was to a chapter of that book culled out, digested and republished by Lloyd on the Internet. I'm sorry, that is not the original book. You have a few possibilities. You can cite the original book without the link or you can cite the linked item as I had it. You can cite both if you wish or cite the original with the link following. What you can't do is revert what I had. You can;t do that because it is not in cite book format. I do not know what you are accustomed to doing on WP but I would appreciate your developing some WP manners fast. You do not revert me without reasons just as I do not make changes without reasons. I look forward to seeing your solution; otherwise, it will have to stay as I had it.Dave (talk) 17:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Incorrect accusation and conclusion - resolved on Talk page of article.Parkwells (talk) 20:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

John D. Rockefeller edit
One of your edits to this article ended up mangled. I would fix it but the page is semi-protected:

"Though he worked long and hard hours, he delighted"

you changed to:

"Hrked long hours and delighted" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.28.24 (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Sarasota, Florida discussion
I have started a discussion about changes to Sarasota, Florida, an article you have contributed to substantially here. Any comments, suggestions and/or criticism you may have are welcome. Thanks, VictorianMutant (talk) 05:37, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Bill Maher
Repeating what I posted on the article's talk page: I believe you have misinterpreted the concept of WP:OR. Maher did not write this article, as best can be determined. But as an outspoken top celebrity with a couple of decades of weekly television appearances (at least when his shows have been "in season") he is responsible for many quotes. Many of the things he has said are controversial and are thus quotable. Both the things he has said to cause the controversy and his response to the controversy are completely relevant, quotable items. I haven't analyzed all the edits you made in great detail (with so many edits, you make the cumulative effect more difficult to analyze), but in a quick look; it appears you have eliminated several important quotes, that are meritorious of appearing in the article (on this ill-conceived pretense). There have also been subsequent edits that seem valid, that should remain. I urge you to go back and replace the damage you did with such massive edits until can be discussed and a consensus for their removal is achieved. Trackinfo (talk) 03:20, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Osip Mandelstam
Hi Parkwells, Thank you for your great edits to Mandelstam. I am wondering about the shift of the marriage date from 1922 to 1921. I also wonder if it's possible to add some refs to the article which is still a bit short on citations and / or pad out more detail. Best wishes Span (talk) 19:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, glad to help. It was 1921 in the article on Nadezhda Mandelstam, but I've not been able to find either date in another source (most are mirrors to Wikipedia). Still looking.Parkwells (talk) 21:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Reference request
Hello Parkwells, would you kindly provide a footnote giving the reference for this sentence, which you added to Therese Jansen Bartolozzi:

"She and her brother Louis had also continued with the successful family dancing business, to 1840."

Thanks very much. Opus33 (talk) 17:05, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Found error - corrections made.Parkwells (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Barbara Weir
Hi, thanks for your great improvements at Barbara Weir. I've left a couple of queries at the talk page if you want to check those out. Cheers, hamiltonstone (talk) 21:23, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Citation needed
Hi. A small tip: When adding citation needed please enter date in MONTH YEAR format. Check my fix in your edits. This helps pages to be properly categorised. Thanks and happy editing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Meridian race riot of 1871
Why hello there, old pal. It's been a while! How have things been going? Not having seen you for a while, I'm not sure if you knew that Meridian, Mississippi was promoted to GA status a few months ago. As soon as I get the time, I plan to get it all the way up to FA status, but that may be a while away. I'd also like to point out a new article I created recently that I believe may be right up your alley – Meridian race riot of 1871. Maybe you could read over it, proofread, copyedit, etc.. the things you used to help out with on the Meridian article itself. If not, I'm sure you might just be interested in the content; it's a pretty interesting story I think. Many of the sources are conflicting somewhat, so I tried to go with the most plausible one in those cases, but if you'd like to change something, feel free. Keep in touch!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 06:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Temne, please update with citations to restore original information
Parkwells,

It seems you originally wrote the article about the Temne tribe that stated that according to oral traditions the Temne tribe trace their origins to Israel. I just happened to notice that someone has removed this information for lack of citation our sources. Do you have any sources for what you originally posted? I would like to see this information supported and added back to the article.

Thanks, 173.70.208.205 (talk)intersted reader