User talk:Parrot of Doom/Archives/2012/September

Howdy
Hey there, I remember you being responsible for a string of awesome Pink Floyd articles showing up at FAC for awhile there. after months of low-level editing, I'm getting back into the swing of things. Do you have any music-related projects underway? WesleyDodds (talk) 09:46, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Welcome back, not right now I'm afraid, my tastes have shifted more toward the bizarre and unbelievable. Plus those Pink Floyd articles seem to take a lot of effort to maintain as people are always coming along and adding cruft to them.  If you'd like my help with something though, please feel free to ask. Parrot of Doom 20:00, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

The Casbah Club
I have been "topic-banned" for one year on any article concerning The Beatles, and any article that mentions Liverpool. It's all part of the proposed "the Beatles" movement, which I disagree with. Sorry that I can't help you.--andreasegde (talk) 18:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I just thought you might be interested to know. Parrot of Doom 18:49, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I thank you, as I am very interested, but the chains and the ball of admin corrections hamper one a bit - ouch. BTW, I like the introduction to your talk page a lot.--andreasegde (talk) 19:57, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well it has the advantage of pulling the rug from beneath the idiots before they even start. I'm sorry to see such a fuss about the use of "The". Parrot of Doom 20:40, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Gunpowder Plot
I've just noticed that refs #87 and #121 point to a source that isn't listed in the Bibliography, Haynes (1999). Malleus Fatuorum 17:28, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a typo, should be 2005. Parrot of Doom 18:21, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Right to Write
Mr. Parrot of Doom. You waste your time putting other people down when they are trying to help this website. You have failed to look at yourself. An editor of Wikipedia. You have no life. All you do is try to make yourself look smarter than everyone else. You use sarcasm, useless information, and the tone of your comments shows that you are a very sad soul. Please let users that are trying to help Wikipedia with their knowledge edit pages. All of you editors always say "It must be properly cited" blah blah blah. You fail to understand that some people just want to share their knowledge and may not, cannot, or don't want to cite. I know there are vandals that try to trash Wikipedia and aren't trying to add to the website. Please let users that just want to say there was an alternate listing to the Pink Floyd album Wish You were Here say that! Let editors tell their story. How can that harm the website! It's just making it better! This site suffers from being boring. The tone of the writing in Wikipedia is monotone. If you just let editors express themselves freely, then Wikipedia would be much better.

Sincerely. A former Wikipedia editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.212.194 (talk) 05:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


 * What I do with my time is none of your business. And signing yourself off as a former wikipedia editor somewhat contradicts your claim that I'm wasting it.  So do me a favour and fuckoff. Parrot of Doom 08:38, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

On to other things
While trying to crowbar Melford Stevenson through FAC recently I came across a reference to what looks to have been quite a significant series of investigative journalism articles made by Granada TV from the mid-1960s until 1988, called the State of the Nation, which seems to have been largely forgotten now. I wonder how many other British TV series there are languishing in equal obscurity? Malleus Fatuorum 17:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh plenty, I've long believed that the BBC has a public service duty to upload everything it's ever made - everything - onto the iPlayer platform. And free of charge.  After all, we've paid for it, it's ours. Parrot of Doom 17:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

ANI notification
Hello. There is currently a discussion at WP:ANI regarding misconduct. The thread is Parrot of Doom abusive behavior. Thank you. —Kerfuffler 22:56, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Parrot of Doom, I reviewed the difs in that discussion and I don't think they require admin intervention. In the future, though, please consider using a phrase other than "fuck off" to tell people to go away. A lot of people (and yes, most of them are Americans) get very upset about "fuck", so it leads to unneeded drama. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * In the circumstances I think that PoD's response was rather mild; if some are offended by it that's their problem. The real problem isn't a few swear words, it's the systemic unwillingness and inability to deal with the real incivility here. Such as obvious sockpuppets like those today offering gratuitous and rather insulting character analyses of anyone who stands up to their stupidity and obstinacy. Malleus Fatuorum 23:58, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree, I would really like to increase the freedom to give WP:NOTHERE blocks. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:05, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I wish both of you hadn't engaged the IP on the talk page. The only useful thing one could possible say there is "fuck off", and as you know that is frowned upon unless one is Dick Cheney. That IP, BTW, is a longtime disruptor--I'm sure Mark and Favonian realized that as well. Drmies (talk) 00:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That would probably have been for the best, but speaking only for myself, I've never been one to turn the other cheek; that way you just get hit twice. Malleus Fatuorum 00:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * [after ec:] I see that Mark did indeed see that. Mark, you have that freedom any time you wish to use it, as long as you don't exceed what is usually deemed reasonable for an IP address, for a first long block--say one to three months or so. Drmies (talk) 00:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * If it's anything to you, I got dragged to ANI for saying just that to another long-term IP hopping sockpuppet a few months ago (I'm American myself, so clearly we aren't all offended by a bit of swearing); I totally feel your frustration, but it's generally better to avoid swearing to keep the socks from getting ammunition against you. The great majority of us get it, but there are always a few people who can't seem to keep any sense of perspective and it's best to keep them from kicking up a stir.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 00:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And I think we all know what's on Kerfuffler's agenda. Drmies (talk) 00:29, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Mark I appreciate your sentiment but I'll use whatever phrase I like to tell idiots to go away. They're idiots, they should expect no less.  What sticks in the throat is when people like Kerfluffer get their knickers in a twist about my use of language while simultaneously ignoring accusations of sockpuppetry, ownership, being a meddlesome teenager, a troll, a vandal, egotistical, combative, demonstrating a lack of empathy, being indifferent, haughty, obtuse, narcissistic, autistic, socially inept, self-centred, mediocre, etc.

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  20:13, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The above accusations are laughable (as is their author) but Kerfluffer ignored all that. He's obviously an idiot too, which is why if he persists in his "don't make me give you a warning" nonsense I'll have no problem telling him so, but with "less civil" words.  These people should concern themselves with writing articles rather than poncing around like low-quality PCSOs and Traffic Wardens. Parrot of Doom 07:51, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * PCSO is a good article to improve on anyway; way too much a manual. Hey, when you said "ignoring", did you mean "uttering"? Those accusations were theirs, no? I saw a few of them, I think. Drmies (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I meant ignoring, as in "LA LA LA I DIDN'T SEE THOSE PERSONAL ATTACKS, LA LA LA". Parrot of Doom 19:50, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Parrot, you may not realize that you muddy the water by firing back at them. You can't claim incivility when they call you a puppet if you are tossing words about also. At that point, you have unclean hands and admins have the decision about blocking none or both.
 * I couldn't care less about blocks and to be quite honest I'm beginning to care less about Wikipedia. And I'm perfectly entitled to highlight hypocrisy wherever I find it, especially in admins who obviously don't inhabit the real world. Parrot of Doom 21:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That's exactly how I feel, but that's maybe no surprise as I'm apparently your sockpuppet. There's a list I saw somewhere recently, showing FA contributors against block log entries. I'm towards the top in terms of number of FAs, but I'm way ahead of anyone else with my 31 block log entries. Malleus Fatuorum 21:59, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
Parrot of Doom, please stop vandalising the Hanged, drawn and quartered article. It has been very clearly explained to you that the "drawn" in the article's title is a reference to disembowelling. It has nothing to do with being pulled behind a horse, which is why the word "dragged" is being used to eliminate confusion. Recent edits, such as the one by Nikkimaria demonstrate the confusion using the term drawn instead of dragged is creating for readers of the article. Just so that you undertand: drawn has two meanings: to drag or to disembowel. Since the term "drawn" is being used in the article to mean disembowel, using its other meaning creates unnecessary confusion. 121.73.7.84 (talk) 15:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Clearly seems to have confused you anyway, but I suspect that's not too difficult. Malleus Fatuorum 15:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Malleus Fatuorum, whom are you addressing? 121.73.7.84 (talk) 15:29, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You, obviously. Malleus Fatuorum 15:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Who the fuck do you think wrote the article and inserted a huge section on what the meaning of "drawn" might have been? And are you really stupid enough to think that if "drawn" is left in, people will presume it means that horses once disembowelled traitors? Parrot of Doom 16:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't worry about these accusations. The IP is currently unable to reply anyway. Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:24, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * But he continues with his allegations of sockpuppetry, and demands for PoD to be blocked. Malleus Fatuorum 16:27, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I love the accusations of vandalism and ignorance. As if spending hours looking for up-to-date reliable sources on exactly what "drawn" means in that context doesn't count. Parrot of Doom 16:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Only a matter of time before you (or I as your sockpuppet) get accused of ownership again. Remember, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that everyone feels entitled to vandalise. Malleus Fatuorum 16:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. At ANI, the user Bushranger expressed a wish for a block of PoD to prevent more ownership, nearly textbook untermenschian ressentiment.
 * No respect for administrative closings! ;) Kiefer  .Wolfowitz  19:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Pink Floyd FAC
I would appreciate your comments at the Pink Floyd FAC. Cheers! ~ GabeMc  (talk 22:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)