User talk:PashtoPromoter

Pashtuns
Hello PashtoPromoter. I think you should take your concerns about Pashtuns and the edits you are taking issue with to the talk page ~ in fact, in a minute i will start a section there about them if there isn't already on ~ as has been recommended to you in the edits you have reverted. I notice that you are new here, so i'll also put a welcome notice here, as it has a lot of useful wlinks to places to read about how we work and what is good practice; happy days, LindsayHello 17:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2021
Hello, I'm Ahmetlii. I noticed that in this edit to Čungāx̌, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Ahmetlii (talk) 09:12, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

About deletions of content in some pages
Hello, I saw that you removed some of the descriptions and changed the text on the pages. Could you explain why didd you do it? Thanks very much.Ahmetlii (talk) 09:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Requesting article expansion help
Greetings

Requesting you to visit articles Islamic advice literature and Draft:Aurats (word) and please do expand them if find yourself interested.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 08:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * @ Bookku I do not know much about Islam to contribute, my interests are primarily Pashto and the word عورت is not a part of Pashto PashtoPromoter (talk) 08:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Xerxes931 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Relax
Hello there, PashoPromoter. I'm coming here to your talk page rather than writing on the talk page of the article because what i have to say is specifically to you, though it is about the article itself: I really think you need to relax, take a step back, stop trying to impose your view on the article, even if only for a few days. If i may, i'll lay out a couple of reasons for this: I hope you don't mind my giving you this advice; you are fairly new (under five hundred edits, i think), and my account here is quite long term ~ i have something over fifty thousand edits over the course of the past decade or more ~ so i've had a longish time to see how things work and what are good strategies. If i can offer any other help (other, that is, than helping you impose your views on the Pashtun article), please ask; happy days, LindsayHello 09:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) You've been reported to the Edit Warring section of the Administrators' Noticeboard; while it has been closed with a warning to both parties, such a report is never a good look, by which i mean that if you have a run-in with another editor it is quite likely to be brought up and, perhaps, held against you;
 * 2)  There is no necessity to get the encyclopædia "right" immediately, not even one page of it:  The whole thing is a work in progress, and will be, always; this means that we have time to improve it tomorrow or next week or next year ~ it doesn't have to be now;
 * 3)  As we work on that improvement, we are working as a community, working together ~ it doesn't help matters to antagonise our fellow workers; making accusations of socking is a very serious thing to do, and basing it on the fact that two editors disagree with you is not the firm foundation such an accusation requires; far better to allow yourself to be persuaded, to graciously give in, then find more sources and come back later on (see the previous point) and use them to persuade those you are working with.
 * Thank you Lindsay; I will keep that in mind PashtoPromoter (talk) 10:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Important Notice
Doug Weller talk 16:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey Doug I think there has been an error, I am not interested in those pages only information related to Pashtuns directly PashtoPromoter (talk) 16:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring at Pashtuns
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Per a complaint, originally at WP:AN3, which led to continued warring by you after the closure. EdJohnston (talk) 16:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

My block expired but I still can not contribute/make-edits EdJohnston --jpgordon PashtoPromoter (talk) 00:23, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I fixed it. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 01:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you --jpgordonPashtoPromoter (talk) 07:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism
Well, you asked mine opinion, then removed the section as soon as i tried to respond. I'm responding anyway: No, i do not consider  to be vandalism. That word here has a very specific meaning, as you can find at VANDAL this page: On Wikipedia, vandalism has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge. Clearly, Foxhound03 was trying to improve the project, not to obstruct or defeat it. You obviously disagree with the edit, but that does not make it vandalism. Please take to heart some of the advice you have been given, here and on the Pashtuns talk page, and use the remaining time you are blocked to read a bit more about how we work here and how to cooperate with others ~ even when you don't agree with them; happy days, LindsayHello 17:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Your editing
I am about to make a comment on the Pashtun talk page, but i'm coming here first because i don't want it to seem unduly harsh. With all due respect, PashtoPromoter, you really need to back off. You are bludgeoning the process, and your editing is getting very close to disruptive, so much so that i would not be surprised to see you blocked, for a much longer time than you were a few days ago. I strongly urge you to stop commenting there for a full twentyfour hours, then limit yourself (voluntarily) to three edits on the talk page each day for a week, and see where that more measured conversation gets you. Thank you, happy days, LindsayHello 15:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Twice now you have pinged me, then erased my name so that i have no idea why i've been called to a page, exactly what i'm expected to reply to.
 * You've also done it to an admin, which doesn't strike me as clever.
 * You have started three, i think, supposed Requests for Comments, then closed two of them, then immediately re-opened another.
 * You seem to feel the need to answer every single comment someone makes.
 * You ~ if you are not doing so, you very strongly give the impression of ~ are not willing to listen to anyone whose views are different to yours.
 * You may have learned from your block, in that you aren't edit-warring on the page any more, but you are trying to control absolutely the conversation on the talk page ~ such that of forty edits there today, very nearly three-quarters (29) of them are yours. Trust me, that is excessive.
 * Lindsay I apologise for pinging you, i didnt know how to respond to reversions so I tagged you to bring it to your attention; I later read your policy and removed them. I closed the two RFCs because I compromised on the citations I wanted to be added. My new RFC is on correction on an already existent citation.  I did not know there was a limit on the number of edits of wikipedia talkpages. PashtoPromoter (talk)
 * No worries. I don't mind being pinged at at all ~ what i found confusing was having a ping then not being mentioned when i went to the talk page.  As for the number of edits, there is no official limit, so you're not breaking that, but it is best to bear in mind that we are all humans behind these account names (and IP numbers) and, as humans, liable to be annoyed or frustrated or any number of other things that happen to people, so i find it best to moderate my posts and suggest that you do, too ~ put something there, then give people time to respond (that's why i suggested limiting yourself to a certain number of edits).  I get it that you're passionate about this subject; that's fine.  When an editor's passion interferes with the smooth running of the project, that's not so fine.  That's why, if you read this you'll see that disruptive editing can be motivated perfectly, and still be disruptive.  Anyway, hope this helps; happy days, LindsayHello 16:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * With due respect User:LindsayH, I have had a look at the talk page of the article and User:PashtoPromoter is not the problem. There is a gross misrepresentation of sources going on at that article that is being cemented by repeated edit warring and it seems like User:PashtoPromoter is trying to fix this. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 18:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Re:Request for Comments on Pre-Islamic Period - Pashtun history
Dear User:PashtoPromoter, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I have looked over it and agree with your views there. However, the amount of likely sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry there, along with the gross misrepresentation of sources that is going on there that is being cemented with edit warring makes me reluctant to participate in the discussion now. I'm sorry I can't be of more help at the moment. With regards, AnupamTalk 18:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dear Anupam Please do participate, it is the reputation of wikipedia and the history of 60-70 million people at stake PashtoPromoter (talk) 17:01, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Significance of non Pashto speakers
Most Pashtuns in urban regions of Afghanistan like Kabul or Herat are Persianized to an extent, they are a significant minority to say the least. Since Dari is clearly the lingua franca of Afghanistan and census records show substantial numbers of Pashtuns in the aforementioned urban areas, using the term "significant" makes sense. Foxhound03 (talk) 12:07, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

sayed dynasty and khizr khan.
Hi.Sorry to bother you. I have to inform you about sayed dynasty (dehli sultanat). There is POV going on in the article.They keep deleting the mention of afghan in origins. i presented the sources "both primary and secondary in the form of books" and informed him that there is not much data about the origins of sayeds (which makes my sources even more important).But He keeps deleting my sources and edits, asking for more source? I hope you do something about it, see the edit history and discussion on talk page, you can gather consensus and then edit it in a way you think is right. Thank you.

Request for help in transcribing placenames in Afghanistan
Hello. Could you please add the IPA transcription in Pashto for each of the names of provinces and their capital cities in Afghanistan? I want to transliterate these names into the alphabet of my native language according to the Pashto pronunciation, but since some vowel sounds are omitted in writing and some vowel letters represent more than one sound, I guess I can't do it without the help of the phonetic alphabet. --Potapt (talk) 13:06, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

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