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Inquiry regarding Article Deletion Discussions
Hi Paste. Thank you for your welcome message to Wikipedia on my talk page, and for your inquiry about the TOS portion of my username. I was saddened to see that my very first article here was nominated for deletion just hours after it was created; and I honestly feel that the fellow who is advocating in favor of the deletion seems to be behaving in a less than good faith manner. In support of this statement, I would point out his use of the term "fancruft" which is acknowledged to be an insult by some and which I believe I disproved with statistics; his assessment that the subject of my article is notable for only one event, which again I believe I disproved in the debate discussion; and his recent unilateral mass deletion of a large section of my article (the Career section), claiming copyright violation. I did just re-write that section using my own, new language to document the various career accomplishments of the author. However, it occurs to me that user JzG could have taken a much kinder approach and requested a rephrasing of the section beforehand (which I would have been happy to comply with) instead of performing a unilateral mass deletion. His attitude really comes across to me as being overly hostile and not necessarily in good faith - as I would expect from individuals in senior positions or administrator positions at Wikipedia. My question is whether or not I need bother to expend my energies and pursue the deletion debate in good faith at all, and hope for a just decision, or whether, in your opinion, I might as well give up because user JzG is ultimately destined to just mass delete the entire article anyway - acting unilaterally in accordance with his own negative bias on the article? It seems to me that this fellow has failed to respond in a meaningful way to any of my good faith inquiries and has blatantly ignored the multiple relevant points I've raised regarding notability issues in the deletion discussion. Tosresearcher (talk) 21:28, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your comments. I'm afraid that I think that the article concerned will be deleted as there is just not enough independent coverage of the author. It's at AFD and that needs to run its course now. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 07:48, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your kindness in helping to revise it during its short life! Best Regards. Tosresearcher (talk) 07:54, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, I hope this first experience won't put you off contributing to Wikipedia in the future. Try creating your user page and then as you have noted there are numerous articles relating to Star Trek that I am sure you would be very helpful in monitoring and improving. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 07:59, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

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Please remove em

Carol Thomas
Hi Paste, thank you for your improvements on this page. As for the citations, the statements are made following discussion with Carol herself.

1) BOCM ladies - this was 1966, the women's game was largely not administered with scant documentation and non of it retained beyond the season in question. Further, sadly, most of the players are no longer with us therefore proof is almost impossible to give. If a citation is still required can you please help in how I should do this, or I will have top remove the statement. 2) 214 Wainwrights, National Three Peaks walk and Coast to Coast walk - Unfortunately, there are no registers or official independent records kept for these. Carol completed her 214th Wainwright in June 2015 (Catstye Cam), she undertook the National Three peaks in July 2014 and completed the west to east Coast to Coast route in May/June 1994 and the east to west Coast to Coast route in May/June 2015. The only verification for these would be her husband, who walked them with her, the personal photographs taken on routes/peaks or to provide a list of Bed and Breakfasts along the Coast to Coast route for each occasion, for the first occasion that would be 12 and the second 16. All of which can be provided and I have personally seen. If a citation is still required can you please help in how I should do this. Waking Ned (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for responding. I can only really suggest that you take a look at WP:V as it is a cornerstone of Wikipedia that articles can verify exactly what they are saying. The criticism that has been put for Carol Thomas is that some of what has been written seemed 'essay like' and if it comes from a conversation with her as you say then that is not surprising. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 15:24, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Carol Thomas
Hi I am stuck here. Firstly, I must thank you for all your help, as a new user it has been invaluable. I have been through the article again, thanks for your improvements, and I hope I have maintained a more factual approach. I will keep revisiting the article until it meets requirements.

However, much of the early information re BOCM Ladies quite frankly cannot be retrieved. Put simply the people concerned are dead eg Flo Bilton, no written records are available, where do I go?

The information re her walking/trekking again are from personal records. All the stuff in Britain, no registers, official records exist except for her personal records which can be provided. The trekking company she uses are Exodus Travels, London with whom she has trekked with since 2007, but obviously they operate a strict client confidentiality approach. Again it is personal records which can also be provided. In both cases I can see no way I can evidence this on Wikipedia without uploading hundreds of photographs, with her face on them (which she has). Waking Ned (talk) 15:58, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

In both cases any help would be much appreciated if not, I will remove the statements, and accept that the article will be incomplete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waking Ned (talk • contribs) 15:39, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * My feeling would be to leave the article as is for now and see how it progresses and is edited by others. As we have discussed the references need improvement but also as you say that may prove problematic. What connection, if any, do you have with her as WP:COI may also be applicable? Paste  Let’s have a chat. 16:22, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

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Accurate edit summaries
Please be careful when writing edit summaries that you are accurate. In the article for The Great British Bake Off, you left the following edit summary:
 * Reverted to revision 746536353 by Drmargi (talk): Incorrect addition of material.

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 * Even a cursory glance at 'The Great British Bake Off: Revision history' will show that my action was as described and reverting to your correct version. I can see no way that it reflects badly on you. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 17:49, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Introducing copyvios
Please do not add material which may be a copyvio as you did in this edit. The unreliable self-published source you added at the same time being the source of the possible copyvio. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 21:17, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I have reinserted the info with a better ref from The Telegraph. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 07:22, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * It looks like you are a very experienced editor, so can we conclude your replacement of the text "During the Tudor era the downs were also in use and in particular Ditchling Beacon, which had been used as a beacon to warn of invasion in preceding centuries, was used again to warn Queen Elizabeth I of the Spanish Armada lumbering east along the English Channel" in the South Downs Way article with this edit means that it is not a copyvio from  where there is near identical text?SovalValtos (talk) 19:11, 28 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I am in error, I can see that you are correct and I will look to change the entry accordingly, not sure how I missed it the first time. Thanks. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 21:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It is terrible English anyway, almost unreadable.Charles (talk) 21:29, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Walkover Technologies
Hi,

You have written that Walkover Technologies is a promotional page but in fact it is not. It is not trying to influence any audience or target others through it. Walkover is the parent company under which many products are developed. All these products have their own website and it is by the product's name that the customers know. The flagship product is MSG91 that is pretty well-known and it isn't even listed it on the Wikipedia page. Request you to reconsider

Sonali7169 (talk) 07:09, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It is not your page and you clearly have a serious conflict of interest.Charles (talk) 10:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Baldwin Kings
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Ken Eberts entry into Wikipedia was rejected and you offered your help
Hi Paste,

this is the author of the entry on Ken Eberts, the progenitor and founder of the art genre: automotive art. SisterTwister rejected... and I understand you have offered to help. I had responded to SisterTwister, would you like to hear my response? How do you and I proceed.Makeorbrake (talk) 16:27, 16 November 2016 (UTC)MakeorBrake (Michael Knab)

hi
Hi thanks for the help with this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigbailey0012 (talk • contribs) 12:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Swapan Purkait
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Makeorbrake [Ken Eberts artist]
Thank you! for your 11-29-2016 words of encouragement left on Ken Eberts draft, which is being re-reviewed after I made substantial edits. If you have any further suggestions to improve the article, I'm "all ears." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makeorbrake (talk • contribs) 15:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Promotional
How can I make Anant English School promotion free. And sorry for vandalism, other fake was using my wiki account for editing. I will take care Rajkabir234 (talk) 10:20, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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My article requires a cleanup.
Hi Paste! I created an article for T.H. Baker and it's obvious that I'm close to the subject. How do I get someone to make the article more neutral? :) (Here's the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.H._Baker) DavidGayson (talk) 11:27, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the biggest concern with your article is not that you work for the company but whether in fact it is notable. See Notability (organizations and companies). Paste  Let’s have a chat. 11:34, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

T.H. Baker
Hi Paste, how do I go about getting a neutral to edit the page I created? DavidGayson (talk) 11:38, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that's not the way it works, anyone can edit any page at any time, the only restrictions are that edits have to adhere to Wikipedia policies, if not it is likely that they will get reverted. Paste  Let’s have a chat. 11:41, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hi dear,

Thanks for your interests about page on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdussamet_Öztan

But let me ask you something: How can we add informations about Abdussamet Oztan(me) as a colmunist, voice over artist on wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdussametoztan (talk • contribs) 11:51, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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