User talk:Pastordavid/Archive Saints

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Labadism
Looks good to me. Thanks :) - Francis Tyers · 18:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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 * Tag added. Thanks.  Pastordavid 22:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Image source for Image:Maximus Confessor.jpg
Hi Pastordavid Would you mind adding a source for where you found this image? Unless we have an exact source, other editors will have a very hard time verifying if this is an ancient image or a modern version. Happy editing. Valentinian T / C 22:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message. The sources you gave me are quite nice so they could simply be added to the image description page (see e.g. the description of Image:Kristian IV av Danmark, malning av Pieter Isaacsz 1611-1616.jpg for an example of how it is normally done). The reason why I contacted you is that I noticed the English lettering on the left side of the image. This would indicate to me that this is a modern version of an ancient icon, but unless the artist drawing this exact icon died more than 70 years ago, this particular image will not be Public Domain. Please forgive the expression, but even if the painter died the moment after finishing this icon, this event would still have to have taken place no later than 1936 for this image to be Public Domain. Do you know if bilingual icons were painted already then, or the name of the artist behind this work? Otherwise, I'm afraid we will have to look for an older image. Regards. Valentinian T / C 23:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the information. This situation is somewhat tricky, but let's assume that the Australian Catholic University knows what it is doing. I've tried to add a copyright tag to the description page to cover this situation. The Italian image you mentioned would not have been the best candidate for a replacement. Your translation is correct, but "Wikipedia only" images are currently being replaced, so I would not advice using that image. Unfortunately, neither the German, French, Spanish or Polish Wikipedias have any image at all. Since neither of these allow any form of images with the least potential copyright issues, they are normally good places to start when looking for Public Domain or GFDL images. A good rule of thumb is to look for images that are either dated before c. 1900-1910 or images that were published in the United States before 1923. Such images will normally be free of copyright issues. Btw, I just noticed that you are interested in Danish topics. My knowledge about theology is very limited (Danish or otherwise), but if you encounter something written in Danish that needs translating, or if you lack a piece of biographical information or similar, feel free to let me know and I'll try to be of assistance. Regards. Valentinian T / C 00:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Maximus the Confessor
Looking quite a bit better already, I would certainly say! A few suggestions-"died as a condemned heretic" leaves rather ambiguous whether he died of natural causes, died of his previous injuries, or was executed, so it may help to clarify. If the exact cause of his death isn't known, maybe something like "where he remained until he died, still condemned as a heretic, on 13 August 662?" On the other hand, if he was executed, or if it's not known whether he was, that should probably be clarified as well. "The East" is also rather ambiguous-most modern readers would consider Greece to be very much part of "the West," as it is part of Europe. I also made a couple of minor copyedits. Other then those minor issues, though, it's coming along great! Seraphimblade 04:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: FAC Maximus the Confessor
I've added new comments on the nomination page in response to your additions. For what it's worth, I think you have a fine article going there, and if you adress the concerns I raised, I'll gladly support it, but it may not go so well for you on this nomination. Thanatosimii 21:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Catholic Encyclopedia
Yes. The template is, I seem. But beware with Catholic Encyclopedia: is terrificly POV and biased. You can find them incredible distorsions of the truth in favour of Catholic people, even in not-noticeable ways. For examples, shameful deeds by Catholics will be hidden, or showed in the exactly opposite way. And so on. Bye and good work. --Attilios 09:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Saint Arsenius
Dear Pastordavid; First, I apologize for having made the last changes in the St Arsenius page without being logged in (which I did not realize). I agree with you that Wikipedia conventions does not encourage the use of titles such as (Saint) in the page titles. However, I never heard of Saint Arsenius being called Arsenius the Deacon. I am a Copt, and Saint Arsenius is quite popular at home (Egypt). But we never refer to him as Arsenius the deacon. I've also seen page titles on Wikipedia starting with Saint... simply to avoid confusion between these saints and other people. So I suggest either calling the page Saint Arsenius and adding Arsenius the Deacon as one of the names he is known by, or at least calling the page Arsenius the Great, because it is a more conventional name for him. Thank you and I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. --Lanternix 19:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC) In Christ; --Lanternix 19:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you so much Pastor David.

Saints
Dear Pastordavid, I have responded to your replies on the Projectpage. Cheers, Str1977 (smile back) 18:04, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Dear Pastordavid, may I refer you to a complaint on my talk page. Cheers, Str1977 (smile back) 22:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Theneva
Thanks for your comments. By all means change the article name. I must admit, my instinct was to name the article simply 'Theneva', but the related articles I had browsed used the form 'Saint X', (such as Saint Mungo) so I assumed that was the convention. On another note, I read you user page: you have covered a lot of interesting topics. I look forward to reading some of them. Gwinva 19:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Saint Bertha
Fine with me, especially since I see you did it to the other people of the same name. I think I used the title because they did too, but you're right, it's against the naming conventions. Rigadoun (talk) 22:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Saints Template
Going to pretty much revert to the version before I did my damage. Tried to add a couple of other things as well, but it just isn't working at all. John Carter 20:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * To reduce the amount of text, add the comments link, and a few more categories for specific non-article pages. Reversion almost complete. John Carter 20:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

WP tagging
I noticed you have done some tagging for WP Saints. You propably have already covered all the relevant articles, but if not would you consider adding WikiProject Germany to the German based saints that we have missed out when you come accross them. Thanks. Agathoclea 23:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Martin Luther
Sorry for showing some aggrevation regarding the subject. There weather wasn't very good last week, and I guess my temper wasn't any better. I have contacted User:Keesiewonder regarding the subject, and believe that party may come to agree, particularly considering the comparatively neutral statement she made. Otherwise, we don't actually need to have the banner there to be able to work to improve the article as we have the resources and opportunity to do so. And, yes, I realize improving the article does not mean necessarily putting in an individual reference to every calendar in which an individual is commemorated. The only party I see who acted less than civilly was the first time poster Keesiewonder pointed out, and I know that such single-use personalities are impossible to eliminate. Thank you for the blanket apology, but I didn't take particularly serious objection in the first instance. Like I said, unfortunately, the weather sucked last week and appartnetly my own manners weren't doing much better. John Carter 15:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Albrecht Dürer
When was he canonized then? Johnbod 21:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * see my reply on Talk:Albrecht Dürer. -- Pastordavid 21:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Ezekiel
I did check out other books in the Bible before I made the decision, none of which have a Saints infobox. (For example, Isaiah: you would think that since Ezekiel has one, Isaiah would as well.) I suppose anyone can revert my decision, but I maintain that it stands logically. I'll bring it up with Carter anyway. Thanks for the heads up. Alekjds talk 22:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Move of Macrina articles
Hello, I've moved the Macrina articles as proposed by you, but you may also want to know that moving onto a simple redirect without edit history and talk page does not require an administrator. --Tikiwont 15:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hildegard
"Top" priority in Bio is limited to 200 people, which it is doubtful would include Hildegard. However, in my changing her to "Top" under the Saints project, I did so because the guidelines state (for Top level): "Subject is a 'core' or 'key' topic for Saints, or is generally notable to people other than students of Saints." (emphasis added) By these criteria, Hildegard of Bingen cleary falls under the "Top" category in the Saints project. Outside of Hagiography, she is much better known, for example, than Anthony of Padua or Columba. The Jade Knight 23:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hildegard Infobox
That seems like more than a fair enough compromise to me. I wouldn't understand if Mak didn't settle for it. Well done. Alekjds talk 00:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice work on the WP Saints Sidebar
Looks good! How/when do you want to introduce it? Majoreditor 04:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks great to me as well. Thanks for the work! John Carter 15:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Saint
It's an excellent start for that section, I think. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

John Chrysostom: GA on Hold
John Chrysostom is on hold pending minor issues -- see reviewer Bozhinov's comments. I've added some thoughts of my own on the talk page on how we can address most of the issues. Please let me know what you think. Thanks. Majoreditor 14:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad to see that the article passed GA review. Congratulations and thanks for the wonderful work. Majoreditor 20:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Gregory of Nazianzus
I've been working slowly but steadily on Gregory of Nazianzus, hoping to have it up to GA status in a few weeks. Would you be interested in looking at it, particularly the sections on his theological teachings, and provide feedback? Thanks. Majoreditor 03:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide. I will look at Justification (theology).  Majoreditor 18:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Once again, thanks for your contributions. I will work on the article this weekend and will try to have ready for review by next weekend. Majoreditor 03:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the encouraging comments. Hopefully the article will be selected for GA review in the next couple of weeks. I agree that it won't take much to get it to FA status. If you're interested, perhaps we can work on that this summer. Majoreditor 03:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Question regarding need for photo for Matilda of Ringelheim
The above page was tagged as benefitting from a photo. There is now a comment on the Talk:Matilda of Ringelheim section indicating that there aren't many if any real pictures of her. I thought another opinion in this matter might be valuable, and would appreciate your comment there. Thank you for your attention. John Carter 14:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied on the talk page. In a nutshell: it should have an illustration of some sort, but if that person wants to remove the tag, its not a big deal.  Pastordavid 15:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Mother Teresa
Thanks for helping organize the GA push for MT. Actually, I'm still on vacation and won't be of much use until Monday, but will help out then. Majoreditor 04:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Passed GA a couple of hours after you posted this -- yet another notch in your belt. Once again, great work!  Pastordavid 21:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Your thoughts on Gregory of Nazianzus: could it be FA-status?
Hi, Pastordavid. Do you think we should consider submitting Gregory of Nazianzus for FA-status review shortly? I'm sure it could use some minor cleanup -- but other than that I think it may be ready now that TCC added a thrid image. What are your thoughts? Majoreditor 01:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Saw your note. I will work on expanding the final three sections. I will try to run by the library this weekend to acquire appropriate material. I will also ask another editor to glance through the article. Thanks. Majoreditor 17:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I may be delayed a few days. Majoreditor 03:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Lazy me. I finally went to the theology library and acquired the material I need to work on the article. I'm going to take a couple of weeks to skim through an additional book (Bortnes & Hagg, 2006). Perhaps we can aim for the end of the month for the FA push. Cheers. Majoreditor 15:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sounds great. Let me know what exactly I can do to help out, besides the normal gruntwork.  Pastordavid 15:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Will do. I'll be back in touch later this month. Majoreditor 18:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I added a paragraph on Gregory's contributions to the concepts of hypostasis and theosis. Although I've drawn from a reliable source I'd appreciate it if you could look though my most recent edit to ensure that I've got it right. I'm no theologian and certainly not well-versed in hypostasic doctrine. Thanks Majoreditor 02:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Gregory of Nazianzus
I declare an extended wikibreak until June 20. It would be my pleasure to help you, but, at this moment, I'm extremely pressed by "real life stuff"! Things that must be done, and I cannot postpone them (in professional and personal life).

Gregory is such a fascinating personality, and I'll do my best to "violate" my wikibreak, and review the article the sooner possible (before my official coming back in June 20), but I can't promise anything. From a (really!) quick look I had at the article, my first impression was very positive. It seems that your first successful FA was a great lesson for you, and helped you to become better!--Yannismarou 15:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Calendar template
Looks great to me. Everybody has more than enough cause to take some time off, but glad to see back! John Carter 20:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Bishop Henry a FAC now
Hi, nominated Bishop Henry now for FA: Featured article candidates/Bishop Henry. --Drieakko 07:39, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Calendar of Saints (Lutheran) Featured List Review
Since you had previously expressed support for the promotion of this list, I thought you would like to know that I have renominated it in the hopes that this time sufficent a number of individuals will be interested in looking at this article and expressing thier opinion. Please stop by Featured list candidates/Calendar of Saints (Lutheran) and express your support for promotion or constructive criticism when you get a chance. (Also, if you'd stop by Talk:Calendar of Saints (Lutheran) and make sure I didn't screw anything up in technical aspects of resubmitting the nomination...the instructions were a little confusing.) Thanks. -- jackturner3 14:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Judith Hird
There is the real possibility that the source was misstaken. Certainly, I can't find any reference to her in any of the other sources available to me right now, but I will keep looking into the non-reference books as well. Alternately, here I think it might be a matter of phrasing, is an ordained minister necessarily given the title "Pastor" in all cases, as opposed to say "Associate Pastor"? Perhaps in this instance she was the first individual to recive the formal title of "Pastor". But, like I said, I'll keep checking for further data. John Carter 16:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * For what little it's worth, the book in question was fairly well sourced. Having said that, I think your comments regarding the lack of differentiation of senior/junior pastor is a good one. Exactly what if anything that would mean regarding the existing minimal article is something I can't know. I'm going to assume that the individual in question is notable as per guidelines, but don't know if the two sources we have found have enough info on her to justify the separate article. If you think the article is unlikely to be significantly improved on, which seems reasonable, I would agree to speedying it as the creator if you indicated that might be the best thing to do. John Carter 17:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Gregory of Nazianzus
Is this article still within your plans for FAC? Do you still want me to go through it? Cheers!--Yannismarou 15:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I suggest that we nominate it. I've added some material a few weeks ago to shore up a weaker section. Some footnotes may need reformatting, but it appears to me to be up to FA standards.
 * You've been through the FA-nomination process before --- how should we proceed? Majoreditor 02:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I took the plunge and nominated the article; it's now an FA candidate. Majoreditor 04:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Great news. Gregory of Nazianzus was promoted to FA. Majoreditor 01:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)