User talk:Pat Long

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Glenn Herrin
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Re: can you help with this?
Regarding this Perception of Wealth Theory, I think the more information you give, the better. Is this going to be a new article? Do you need me to give feedback about it, or anything else? -- ReyBrujo 05:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Note that you need to demonstrate the notability of the theory. The article about ?? was deleted multiple times because it is considered not notable according to our notability standards for people. It is possible his theories are also considered non notable if you can't give reliable sources for them. -- ReyBrujo 05:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

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March 2008
Hi, the recent edit you made to Vulcan Energy Drink has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. &#10154; Hi DrNick ! 08:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you remove Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. &#10154; Hi DrNick ! 08:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: beer company
Hey Pat. I didn't mark those articles for deletion, another editor did. I just restored the notice to the page. If you'd like to discuss the deletion, you can participate in the debate at Articles for deletion/Emerald Coast Beer Company and Articles for deletion/Vulcan Energy Drink. Cheers, &#10154; Hi DrNick ! 08:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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Re: DEL
Deletion discussions usually run for about a week and are decided upon by an experienced user called an administrator. You are allowed to improve the articles while the discussion is going on, but please don't remove the notice from the top of the pages that tell other editors about the discussion. The easiest way to show that this article should stay in Wikipedia is to find news stories about the company or the product and show us where they can be found online. If no news sources have written about the company yet, there's no way for us to tell if everything in the article is just made up or not, so we will probably delete it. On the other hand, if you can find several articles about the company or it's product, the article may be kept. One way or the other, I will not make the decision. Good luck. &#10154; Hi DrNick ! 08:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Vulcan Energy Drink deletion discussion
Hi Pat Long,

Although I was the one that nominated this article, if you can come up with some sources that show that the drink complies with our notability guidelines, I'd be happy to help you integrate them into the article and change my position to "Keep" in the discussion. Any questions, please ask on my talk page. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC).

AfD nomination of Vulcan Energy Drink
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AfD nomination of Emerald Coast Beer Company
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Notability
Hi Pat, I really think you should read and consider WP:CORP. It's a good starting place to understand what Wikipedia requires of an organization, like the Emerald Coast company. Your arguments about the government really don't come in to play because these are the guidelines of what Wikipedia needs to include an article. You have to understand that when you're contributing to a project you have to make sure you understand what the project's rules are. If you think that press coverage is silly compared to government authority that is a perfectly valid personal belief, but it's not Wikipedia policy and it won't help you in an AFD proceeding. I'm urging you to try what I've suggested in the AFD to improve the article and if you can't you can always write it again after WP:RS reliable sources become available. --Torchwood Who? (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You should also take a look at this guide to making arguments in deletion discussions. --Torchwood Who? (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Language Barrier?
Hey Pat, please don't take this as out of line, I really don't intend it to be, but are you not a native English speaker or maybe a minor? The reason I'm asking is that I noticed you have some odd sentence structures and I want to make sure that in the AFD for Emerald Coast you're fully understanding what we're saying. If there's a language barrier maybe we can find a way to help bridge it. If there isn't a language barrier I hope you understand where I was coming from and that I didn't mean any harm by asking.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 21:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you're hardly a dummy. It takes a lot to get the hang of editing articles here, so that's proof enough that you shouldn't think int hose terms. I'm sorry if my question upset you. I was really just trying to help.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 21:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would suggest doing this. In case the AFD closes with delete you should go in to the "edit" box for the articles you've created and copy all the text. You can then paste that text in a text file and save it for later when more sources become available.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

NPA/Civil
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. ''Perhaps you're a little too close to the subject and need to step away. Please note there are policies in place on civility and personal attacks.'' TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 00:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's common practice for people to look at other articles. It just happens to be that both articles are up for AfD at the same time. It's not about you as a person, but the article subjects. If you're taking it so personally, you may be too close. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 01:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * at the same time is a relative term, I meant within the same day. Not necessarily at the exact moment. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 01:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

You have made your points quite clear on the AfD page. Continuing responding to each comment is disruptive and may earn you a temporary loss of your editing privileges. Let the AfD run its course without any further comments. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is your last warning. Persisting to be disruptive and mentioning possible future incidents of pointed edits will result in a block. seicer  &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  01:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ...and the user was engaging in bad faith AfD nominations. seicer &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  01:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

You have been from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for persistent vandalism. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. ... are you nuts each one of the name i was making had no REF if ECBC should be DEL they should to I was doing what I learnd from my work you should give me a pay raise--Pat Long (talk) 01:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * How about a 10% raise from what you're making now for editing Wikipedia, which is zero. 10% of zero is zero.  Enjoy! JuJube (talk) 07:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't find your statement (more specifically, your WP:POINT rationale) supportable, Pat. You are comparing historic, well-noted companies (some going back to the 1800s, possibly earlier) with one(s) that have been existence only about a year. If one Googles the names, page after page of memorabilia, pics and mentions will come up, for the elder companies. This translates out to some notability. Is this the case for the AfDd items you're upset about? Zephyrad (talk) 21:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

... can a nerd help me I have a news clip in print not on the intetnet how did i get it on the site?--Pat Long (talk) 16:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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Edits to User:Anthony Appleyard
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