User talk:Pat Torngren

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Once again, welcome!  James  Kendall   [talk] 00:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Important message
Hi. I'd like to thank you for your recent contribution on the flowers of the South African Cape.

Unfortunately, I've had to delete it, because you copied it wholesale from a book. It didn't belong to you, it belongs to Mary Matham Kidd. Copyright is very important on Wikipedia, you see.

You can use the book as a source of information, but not of text. You have to put it in your own words.

Feel free to try again; I look forward to reading your contributions.

DS 23:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

Regarding the above list of flowering plants in the Cape Peninsula, I would like to point out the following:

1. The list of flowering plants of the Cape Peninsula, which I sent to you was indeed based on the work of Mary Matham Kidd. However, it was an original 'rework', giving the flowering times of the various plants, which was not included in Kidd's original work.

2. The copyright for this expanded work is held by my husband, Åke Törngren, and no copyright was infringed by what I sent to you, nor has any copyright ever been infringed by any thing I have ever sent to you at any time.

Kind Regards, Pat Törngren

Needs of Newborns
Did you have any intention of translating Bedürfnisse des Neugeborenen? That info might be of use if you could. --DanielCD 01:37, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

It's been put up in English as a link at the Kangaroo Care Site (2007)

The German article has also been put up as a link at the German Kangaroo Care site, but someone keeps taking it down! (2007)

Abraham le Roux
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Hi,

The article on Abraham le Roux was submitted to you because he is a well-known South Africa sculptor, who has done 'politically aware' works depicting the struggle of black people in the townships during the apartheid era. He has done several sculptors of Nelson Mandela, and his work is known internationally.

He also has books published inter alia by Oxford Press, and has received an acknowledgement of his work by Archbishop Desmond Tutu. However it is so long ago that I submitted this to you, that I suggest that even if you should be interested, it would be best that the article be redone, since I no longer have a copy of the original, and it would need to be updated.

Kind Regards, Pat Törngren

Little context in KÄNGURUMETHODE
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I am trying to start a German site on Kangaroo Mother Care, so put up some links as a beginning. Can anyone who speaks and writes German help to get this going please? It would be good to get help with this, as it is an important topic and it would be nice to get this page started.

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Could someone who speaks German and has knowledge of Kangaroo Mother Care come and assist please? I was able to put up the links, but not do the page, as I cannot write in German. Any offers? This is an important topic. Thanks.

Kängurumetoden
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I don't think I added any comments to any articles. I just put up 4 links to articles on that subject already on the internet in the form that they are up there (on other sites).

I am hoping that someone with an ability to speak Swedish could come and help here. I can give the links, but not set up the site. Help anyone? This is an important topic and it would be nice to have it up!


 * I moved the commentary text to the article's talk page. If you are unable to create the article, you may wish to make a request for a new article.  See WP:REQUEST -- Whpq 13:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pat, I've just deleted KÄNGURUMETHODE since it was a request rather than an article; you might like to make a request for a Kängurumetoden article at Requested articles or Requests for expansion. Marasmusine 21:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Links added to Primal Therapy article
Hi Pat. Welcome to Wikipedia. I just removed the links you added to the Primal Therapy article. You'll find the explanation in a new warning that I've added to the article talk page. (You should read all of the article WP:SPAM). I realise the importance of support groups but you must know that people who have had therapy from the Primal Institute or Arthur Janov's centre can have their details added to a buddy list and can get a copy of the list.

Who are you please, Graham? Do you represent Dr Arthur Janov's centre? His is "not" the only place one can get primal therapy or find primal buddies. Are you saying you have taken down my links to the Primal Support Group? This is a group for all primallers, and we have members there from Arthur Janov's Centre, from Vivian Janov's Primal Institute and also from the International Primal Association. I don't like the idea of taking free choices away from people, if that is what has been done. I know Arthur Janov tried to trademark Primal Therapy but he lost the court case, and primal therapy and support should be available to everyone, everywhere in whatever form they wish to find it. Thanks! Pat

I see from reading the above post that you've already run afoul of what looks like a "bot". This is literally a robot - i.e. a piece of computer software that runs automatically on some preassigned schedule in response to some kind of change to an article. You can not have a dialog with bots.

There's a lot to learn about Wikipedia. Don't be fooled by the welcome invitation to be bold in your edits. You need to read the tutorials, take your time to understand the culture you are dealing with, look at what others are doing. Unfortunately some of the tutorials and articles are confusing - so it can take quite a while to learn your way around. (A good place to start practicing is in your own User and talk page. If I had done this when I started, I may have had a much easier time.)Take care, GrahameKing 20:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC).

UPDATE! Could someone around here tell me how to contact the editors please? Graham's censoring and removing my links to the "Primal Support Group", "Primal Psychotherapy Page" and the "Primal Support Page" clearly constitute vandalism, and I would like to have this matter addressed please. Thank you! Pat Torngren pgt@mweb.co.za or supportnet@mweb.co.za

A tag has been placed on Kängurumetoden, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template   to the article and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -- Finngall  talk  14:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)