User talk:Patar knight/Archive 17

Yesterdays actions
Yeah I know right! I think we can implement these edits for the better. Fax me your proposals and I will ask Jimbo, et al. Ciao. --Joskinfieds (talk) 19:03, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Did you leave this on the wrong page? Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:04, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry! I meant this for User:Mjroots. --Joskinfieds (talk) 19:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries. Good luck with your edits. Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:07, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

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Peter Kent Israel/Palestine You are a HACK!!
Absolutely reprehensible that you removed the reference to my article whilst "compressing" the Wiki page. I will be ADDING my article in, daily, if required! You should be ashamed of yourself! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.194.26 (talk) 17:28, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The column post does not provide any information not included in the other sources. While newspaper columns are not explicitly prohibited, they should be treated with caution, especially on biographies of living people. Since the information in the column is redundant to the other provided sources, and given the obvious conflict of interest that lies with the author of the cited Times of Israel column that can be found through a cursory Google search, I have removed this source once more. If you are the author of the column, I would ask you to consider whether it is appropriate that someone with your political ties should be posting your personal columns about political matters to an open encyclopedia that strives to uphold a neutral point of view. Others have been burnt before. Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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Review an article?
Hey, I was wondering if you'd be willing to review the article User:Niespodj/The Other Side (2014 film). It'd been deleted at AfD back in September and the film has gotten a slight bit more coverage. Also, one of the sources that was sort of weak at AfD has become a bit stronger, the Horror Society review. Part of the reason that I'd been unable to consider it a really good RS was because they didn't really have anything about an editorial staff on their website, which they've since rectified. The only thing that might count against it is that they do sponsored posts. I'll leave that call up to you overall, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * However something in their favor are things like this academic text, where they're listed as a source. They give out an award that has received some coverage like this as well. I'd say that they're likely usable as long as something isn't a sponsored article and they mark these posts as sponsored. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:54, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It definitely looks better than before, and I wouldn't oppose you if you returned it to mainspace, though I still think it's borderline at best and might not survive another AfD. While doing research for this as part of the review, I found an interview with the director on examiner.com that could be of use. I can't link it, because examiner.com is blacklisted, but the name of the article is "The Other Side: Interview with independent filmmaker Chris Niespodzianski". If you want to use it, you would have to whitelist it and use the source cautiously. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Who Am I (Drapht album)
'Withdrawn by nominator' is a speedy close criterion if other editors have not argued for deletion. In this case an outcome based on consensus or a no consensus close is needed. --Michig (talk) 09:54, 28 November 2015 (UTC) ...and how did you arrive at 'keep' when it has been relisted twice because there wasn't a consensus? --Michig (talk) 10:14, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right, I was up very late trying to clear Category:AfD debates relisted 3 or more times, and although I read the discussion and wanted to use a close criterion that would both have the same effect as if I had closed it while not prejudicing a renomination, which in hindsight, I should not have done. However, just because one closing administrator finds there is no consensus and/or wants to relist it for further discussion does not mean another closing administrator is forced to close it as "no consensus" after no further replies have been made. In this case, the changes made to the article by 10 November persuaded a third editor to argue in favour of keeping the article and for the nominator to withdraw the nomination. I think this is a fair reading of the consensus, but you can take it to DRV or a renomination if you want.  Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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removal of my web page
Dear Sir / madame Patar Knight

I woke up today to find my user page was deleted and it said you deleted it. Can you please explain why it was deleted. I am a real person. I did not advertise anything. I posted my biography. If you would be so kind as to let me know why you thought deleting my biography / user page was neccessary. Thank you for your time and considerations,

BUDDY PLANT AKA Raymond St.Claire
 * Hi, please refer to the following elements of our criteria for speedy deletion U5, which states that "Pages in userspace consisting of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals, where the owner has made few or no edits outside of user pages, with the exception of plausible drafts and pages adhering to Wikipedia:User pages#What may I have in my user pages?." Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Vesuvius Records UK
Hi, I would like to contest your deletion of Vesuvius Records UK - could you please put it up for a proper deletion review. 阝工巳几千凹父工氐 (talk) 14:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Since it was deleted via WP:PROD, I've restored, it, but put it to AfD (discussion) because of the notability concerns. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Second attempt to create SpectroCoin article
Hey,

I have tried before to create SpectroCoin article, but it was deleted as advertisement of the company. I re-wrote the text and provided references. Could you double check if this time it doesn't look as promotion or advertisement. Thank you in advance for your help.
 * Hi, this version is certainly better than the previous one, which had no references. However, this text is still problematic as almost all of the references provided would not be considered reliable sources. For example, citing a company's website for statements about that company are generally frowned upon. Similarly, Bitcoinwales looks like a blog written by Bitcoin enthusiasts and thus wouldn't be acceptable. Some of the other sources do have editorial boards, but makes it unclear what the writers'/editors' qualifications are so are potentially problematic. I also see that all of your sources are from industry sources, which would seem to indicate that SpectroCoin doesn't attract enough non-industry coverage to meet the Wikipedia's general notability guidelines and would make it harder to survive an articles for deletion discussion. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

SpectroCoin article text provided below:

SpectroCoin is an online application which provides bitcoin exchange and wallet services. SpectroCoin company mainly focuses on the bitcoin storage at web and mobile wallets services and allows users to buy, sell, send or receive bitcoin crypto-currency. SpectroCoin company is founded in February 2013 by Vytautas Karalevičius, Mantas Mockevičius, Justas Dobiliauskas and managed by Lithuanian-UK company Spectro Finance Ltd. SpectroCoin Bitcoin exchange and wallet services are available in over 150 countries worldwide and company operates over 20 methods of depositing and withdrawing funds, such as through other electronic wallets or bank or credit cards transactions.

Company also introduced bitcoin prepaid debit card which can be used at ATMs or physical shops.

Products
SpectroCoin company provides 4 core products including currency exchange, e-wallet, payment integration tools for merchants and physical debit card which available in Europe and other countries.

Exchange
According to the CEO of the company Vytautas Karalevicius, crypto-currency usage allows SpectroCoin to act as a liquidity provider, consequently users are able to buy and sell bitcoins immediately. SpectroCoin exchange allows trade between bitcoin and fiat currency Euro. According to CEO Vytautas Karalevicius, the key SpectroCoin future plan is to introduce additional fiat and digital currencies both fiat and digital

Company also offers bitcoin conversion services to cash in 25 countries.

Wallet
SpectroCoin mobile Bitcoin wallet provides secure bitcoin storage. This wallet supports iOS, Android and Windows mobile phones. SpectroCoin wallet provides easy to use and fast way of sending and receiving bitcoins. Besides, SpectroCoin wallet gives its users the possibility to pay for goods and services, at the places where Bitcoin is accepted. Including a number of shops, cafes and restaurants in London, Southern Europe and the Baltic States.

Debit Card
SpectroCoin Bitcoin prepaid Debit card works in the same way as any other ordinary payment card.

SpectroCoin debit card is funded instantly through SpectroCoin users’ online wallet. This debit card can be used for money withdrawals from any ATMs across 150 countries globally, where ordinary credit or debit cards are accepted.

Bitcoin payments made with SpectroCoin debit card are approved at over 20 million merchants worldwide, mainly where MasterCard or VISA payments are accepted.

Merchant Solution
SpectroCoin is the first company in Europe which offers merchant tools of Bitcoin payments integration to both online and physical businesses. According to company’s CEO Vytautas Karalevicius, this merchant solution connects customers who use bitcoin crypto-currency for making purchase and merchants, which are willing to accept such as payments. Firstly, SpectroCoin merchant solution tool provides allows bitcoin payment system integration for online businesses by using API or e-commerce plug-ins. These plug-ins and API support OpenChart, Drupal, WHMCS and Magento e-commerce platforms. Secondly, SpectroCoin provides merchant tool integration for physical businesses. As SpectroCoin offers its own solution for bitcoin payments integrated into existing Point of Sale system.

History
SpectroCoin company was established and registered in United Kingdom in February 2013. Alpha version of SpectroCoin app, which functioned as decentralized currency exchange was launched in July 2013. In February 2014, SpectroCoin introduced wallet services and merchant solution tools. In May 2015, SpectroCoin proposed plastic Bitcoin Debit Card.

Bill Morneau vs. Privy Council
I don't know if you've ever seen it or not, but if you haven't, check out the sheer size of the hidden comment that had to be left in Belinda Stronach, right in the introduction between her name and the PC designation, years ago when people doing the same thing in her article actually turned into a full-on constant unresolvable edit war. Bearcat (talk) 15:49, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That's hilarious. Hopefully it doesn't happen with all these new Liberal ministers that we have to use something that huge though. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

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Louder Than Life
Hi, I would like to create a page for Louder Than Life. I saw you deleted one that someone previously made. Is it ok if I make another one more professionally and with valid information with references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1515398nick (talk • contribs) 17:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply, missed this over holidays. Although I don't think I deleted the page (if Louder Than Life is the page you're referring to), any contributions that make use of reliable, independent, third party sources would be welcome and would increase the chance that it will be deemed notable enough to be kept on the wiki. If you want to retrieve the previous material, you can make a request in the Requests for Undeletion Process. Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Peter MacKay
Sorry, but when I first seen this edit, I thought it was just another one of the unsourced nonsense edits that appear in the article from time-to-time. I didn't actually expect it to be true. Had the source been provided by the editor who added it, I never would have reverted. However, I have read through the source a couple of times now and see where it states "neighbour's dog" but can't find where it says "in a ploy to appear more likeable." It was actually that statement that originally made me think it was nonsense. Comparing what was added and what the source says, does that sound to you like the editor was just drawing his or her own conclusion? I may just be misunderstanding the way it was written, but that's the feeling I get after reading the source. Cmr08 (talk) 11:18, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries, you were definitely right to revert edits to a BLP that are unsourced and at first glance appear to be absurd. To me "In a ploy to appear more likeable" seems implied by Coyne but is probably too much OR for Wikipedia and I guess I should've removed it when I added a source. I've made the change so take a look. Happy new year! Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me, I think the changes you made are probably the way to go here. Happy New Year to you also. Cmr08 (talk) 01:10, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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MSN Murthy
Hi Patar Knight,

Mr MSN Murthy whose page you deleted is a well known Indian classical musician. The page wasfor information and not advertisement. I totally understand and appreciate your interest in keeping the wiki clean.

URL: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MSN_Murthy

Please let me know how it can be reinstated.

Best regards Raghu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.128.78.166 (talk) 16:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Raghu. The original page was being written in a blatantly non-neutral, advertising tone. You're welcome to start a new article, as long as it meets our general notability guideline. Our related guidelines for musicians and our neutral point of view pages should be helpful if you do this. If you send me an email with the email function on the sidebar, I can send you the deleted content of the article. Hope this helps, Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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