User talk:Patfacts

A question about your editing
Hi there Patfacts. I'm a volunteer on conflict of interest related subjects and came across your contributions. I have a simple question: are you paid for the things you write about on Wikipedia? If the answer is yes, it's not the end of the world, but there are some things you will have to do to continue editing here. You can just reply here, I'll be watching for an answer. Thanks. - Brianhe (talk) 17:48, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Response to your question
Yes! I am staff at an agency and many of our clients want to better understand how they are supposed to utilize Wikipedia. One of the clients I've made edits for had outdated/inaccurate information on their page and asked me to make updates. For another client, we wanted to update a definition in Wikipedia so that it included an alternate definition of the term. I have a new client that is a branch of a larger company and the other branches have Wikipedia pages already so they would like to have one for their branch as well. I'd love to learn more about doing this for them in the right way! Any help you can provide is appreciated. Patfacts (talk) 16:07, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * First of all, the Terms of Service require that you do the things described in Paid-contribution disclosure every time you edit Wikipedia for compensation. I'm assuming that your edits to Forcepoint need to be disclosed.
 * Okay, with that out of the way, there are specific guidelines we give to public relations companies. You might have heard of Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement, who helped craft some of them. I'm going to put a template on your talkpage below that describes the process a bit. - Bri (talk) 17:05, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Paid editing is allowed, with conditions
Hello Patfacts. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, such as the edit you made to Forcepoint. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a black hat practice. Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly. Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Patfacts. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. - Bri (talk) 17:06, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! A Few Clarifications
Thank you so much for the guidance! Usually we get asked to make updates because someone doesn't know how to themselves (and I can understand -- it takes a PhD to figure some of this stuff out!) I'll definitely update our profile with the template you provided [thank you!]. I'm learning about the terminology that you've provided (such as a "talk" page and "articles for creation") so I'll read what you've provided and try and catch up a bit! And you are correct, we are not compensated for our edits. Please let me know if there are any other questions!! Patfacts (talk) 17:37, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You left out perhaps the most important part of the disclosure on your user page. There's no record of the article or articles you worked on. It's important so that other editors will know what was paid for and can collaborate on the contributions. - Bri (talk) 19:23, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh thank you! I feel silly but I need to ask, how do I reference the articles? I just kind of figured they were already associated with my signature. Can you please provide some instruction and I'd be happy to do that! The ones you sited before (Forcepoint and Tychon) are the only two I've done. I'm trying to add a new article right now so that would be my third. Patfacts (talk) 20:15, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I put up a template at Talk:Forcepoint for you. That can be guidance for others. If you want to see a simpler one, have a look at Talk:Mia Farrow (Sunshine Sachs). - Bri (talk) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:The Potter's House Church, Denver has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:The Potter's House Church, Denver. Thanks! Drewmutt ( ^ᴥ^ ) talk  22:35, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Potter's House Church, Denver (May 26)
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Drewmutt ( ^ᴥ^ ) talk  22:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: LookingGlass Cyber Solutions (September 21)
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 Whispe ring  02:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Draft:The Potter's House Church, Denver concern
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AfC notification: Draft:LookingGlass Cyber Solutions has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:LookingGlass Cyber Solutions. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: LookingGlass Cyber Solutions (November 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Triptothecottage was:

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Triptothecottage (talk) 11:00, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: LookingGlass Cyber Solutions (December 27)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ernestchuajiasheng was:

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RedFlame (talk) 13:35, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:The Potter's House Church, Denver


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 20:19, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: LookingGlass Cyber Solutions (January 18)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Mortee was:

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Mortee (talk) 22:15, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:LookingGlass Cyber Solutions


A tag has been placed on Draft:LookingGlass Cyber Solutions, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Speedy deletion nomination of VUV Analytics


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Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Hello, Patfacts. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.Deb (talk) 18:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

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