User talk:Patrick Lehn - Sonova Corp. Communications

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Username issue
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Sonova Corp. Communications", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Moreover, I recommend that you read our WP:PAID policy and conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username, by completing this form, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 19:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of interest - next steps
Hi Patrick. Thanks for taking care of the username issue.

So you have a COI for Sonova, its lines of business, and its competitors, as we define that in Wikipedia.

Your username makes your COI clear, but to finish the disclosure piece, would you please add the disclosure to your user page (which is User:Patrick Lehn - Sonova Corp. Communications - a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like: "I work for Sonova Corp. Communications and have a conflict of interest with regard to that topic"  would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the company (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).

I added a tag to the Sonova article's talk page, so the disclosure is done there. Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done.

There are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review. This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.

What we ask editors to do who have a COI and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:
 * a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page, and then submit the draft article for review (the AfC process sets up a nice big button for you to click when it is ready) so it can be reviewed before it publishes; and
 * b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to propose content on the Talk page (Talk:Sonova) for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. You can make the edit request easily -  and provide notice to the community of your request -  by using the "edit request" function as described in the conflict of interest guideline.  I made that easy for you by adding a section to the beige box at the top of the Talk page -  there is a link at "request corrections or suggest content" in that section --  if you click that, the Wikipedia software will automatically format a section in which you can make your request.  You can also add a  tag to flag it for other editors to review.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (which I will say more about, if you want).

I hope that makes sense to you.

I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where the company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content. If you are not sure if something is uncontroversial, please ask at the Talk page.

Will you please agree to follow the peer review processes going forward, when you want to work on the Sonova article or any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. And if you want me a quick overview of the policies and guidelines that govern content and behavior here, please have a look at User:Jytdog/How, and let me know if anything doesn't make sense. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 01:40, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jytdog!

Thank you for all this information and your support. I'll follow your advice! Patrick Lehn - Sonova Corp. Communications (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Please stop
Please don't write in the mainspace of Sonova, the blatant puffery present hurts Wikipedia's reputation. Write in the sandbox and ask for peer review instead.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:33, 30 December 2017 (UTC)