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Anne MacKenzie
Hi there. I think it would be helpful if your editing was not done a word at a time please - it makes it easier to contribute! I have made the article 'encyclopedic' and hope you approve; do you know her year of birth or is it a deduction? Carbonix 00:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I would like to apologise to Carbonix, as it would seem that my editing has been rather bitty, and that I have created a fan page. That was not my intention and I am sorry. I only know that Anne was born in 1961, and cannot locate her precise date of birth. I have re-entered the fact that she covered Piper Alpha and Dunblane, as I notice that another UK television presenter, Kirsty Wark, has her main claim to fame in her page. Thanks again. Pattuna 13:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi again; no apology necessary - welcome to the world of Wikipedia! Do keep editing, and if you are doing biographies, I suggest you keeep refering to Manual of Style (biographies) for encouragement. As regards the fan page bit, the Wikipedia 'encyclopedic ethos' demands that our descriptions of people's lives and achievements are as accurate and objective as they can be. For example, by all means put '(born 1961)' after MacKenzie's name if you have some authority to believe it to be true - but not of you have simply deduced it from 'joined Grampian in 1981.. aged 20' - she could have been born in late 1960. Similarly, I had removed reference to her being 'The most revered broadcaster in Scotland'. This is a major claim; is this your own view, or is there evidence from a survey or vote or award of some sort? (If so, consider quoting them if they have some credibility.) What about Eddie Mair? - he has awards! Finally, you will notice that where editors have a number of changes, they usually make them in one or two published edits; this makes it easier for fellow editors to track the changes; see also How Wikipedians improve articles. Hope this is useful. Carbonix 00:11, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi there - I accept your thoughts on 'revered'. This is due to the Scotsman, Sunday Mail and The Daily Record claiming that she is the most respected Scots broadcaster by both journalists and politicians. I have seen with my own eyes that she regularly laughs and is tactile with MSPs after demolishing them on-air. The Sunday Mail's Gavin Docherty (11/04/99) said "She's best known for her confrontational interview style - and the politicians know there is always a chance she'll jump down their throat and dance all over their tonsils." I am a former journalist, and know Anne is seen as being revered by her interviewees and colleagues. She is human though, and some people may not care for her. Your point regarding Eddie Mair is fine, yet we could debate this if there was an award for 'Most Revered Scots Presenter' No such award exists. However, I understand your point. I have looked at the links for biographies and think that my work meets this. Thanks again Pattuna 00:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC) Hi again; I've just re-read the article, and compared to the original it is more factual, more neutral point of view (NPOV) and more comprehensive, as befits a quality encyclopedic item! Keep up the good work! Carbonix 09:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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