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About your edits to Helmet camera
Hello, I noticed you edited the article Helmet camera, and cited Mark Schulze as the inventor. Do you happen to have a source for that? Thanks, -- Pyro &#124; &#124; 3d  06:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Pyro3d - My sources include footage of Mark wearing his first helmet cam rig while riding a mountain bike in a Carlsbad, California race in 1988, as well as a photograph I shot of him wearing the rig in 1987. Footage from his helmet cam was utilized in "The Great Mountain Biking Video" produced in 1987 and released in 1988; and in "Ultimate Mountain Biking," produced in 1988 and released in 1989. I hope this answers your question. Patty Mooney
 * Well, no, not really. That would technically fall under WP:NOR (more specifically WP:PRIMARY). WIkipedia policy states (in WP:VERIFY) that all material must have a reliable source attached (see here for a guide on how to identify these sources). Thanks again, -- Pyro &#124; &#124; 3d  04:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Now researching further sources. Pattymooney (talk) 22:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Patty - Thank you for referencing Aerial Video Systems in the section of your article pertaining to the World Football League helmet cams. Did you know that we actually had a helmet cam documented in 1986? I've been tinkering with an update to the article, but wanted to touch base with you first. Here is what I have come up with:

"The first documented helmet camera was a Canon CI-10 camera mounted to the side of Dick Garcia's helmet by Aerial Video Systems (AVS) of Burbank, CA at the Nissan USGP 500 World Championship at Carlsbad Raceway in Carlsbad, CA on June 28, 1986.

[1]AVS transmitted the images from this camera live via portable microwave to the ABC broadcast truck to integrate into their live broadcast.

^ http://articles.latimes.com/1986-06-28/sports/sp-25708_1_grand-prix

Another early adopter of this technology was Mark Schulze......"

I have a copy of the October 1986 "Motocross Action" magazine showing the camera in the race, but am not sure how to post a copy of that as a source. I've emailed the magazine to see if they have an online source, but have not received a response.

Here is a link to our image from the event: https://www.aerialvideo.com/images/stories/wikipedia/first%20helmet%20cam.jpg

and the page scan from Motocross Magazine (zoom to 100% for best view): https://www.aerialvideo.com/images/stories/wikipedia/motocross%20action%20helmet%20002.jpg

I do believe Mark Schulze should still get props for his contribution, but I believe the claim that he was the first is an error and we would like to get the credit due our efforts, as well. I know you have put a lot of effort into this article. Would you mind updating it? If not, I'd be happy to do it.

Thank you.

AerialVideoSystems (talk) 18:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello AVS, Nice to see you here. If you would add your photograph(s) to the database, and let me know the link, then I can add your blurb along with that photo... But you have to add photos and assign usage, description, vouch for copyright ownership, etc.

Is Dick Garcia the person who actually put the helmet cam together? If not, who was it? Are you affiliated with the person who put the helmet cam together? Wikipedia can be sticky about "conflict of interest" issues... Please provide any further pertinent info, and I'll help with the continuing saga of the video helmet cam origination. If there's no conflict of interest that you can discern, then you could go ahead and make the changes, if you like. Best wishes, Patty Mooney (talk) 02:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Massage For Relaxation, An Instructional Video


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This is a notable video in that it was the first instructional Swedish Massage videotape ever produced and internationally distributed. It was copyrighted in 1985 as "Massage For Relaxation." Since then, there have been several other videos produced, some of them even cheekily called "Massage For Relaxation." It has been said that "Imitation is the best form of flattery," but the original "Massage For Relaxation," produced by New & Unique Videos (of which I am a partner), remains Number One. I have added notations and references to several independent publications that reviewed and/or advertised "Massage For Relaxation" in the 1980's and 1990's. Some of these publications are still in existence today. The video was featured in 1990 on a Publishers Clearing House direct mail campaign, and was available for years at the Heathrow Airport bookstore, among other venues. The video also won the ITVA Medallion Award in 1985. ITVA (International Television Association) changed its name to MCA-I (Media Communications Association International) several years ago but is also still in existence today, and the Medallion Award is a very high honor.Pattymooney (talk) 22:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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I believe I have rectified the issue by posting the copyright tag at the photo site. But if there is some other problem, please let me know. I am the person photographed by my husband, Mark Schulze, and we own the copyright. It is a publicity shot to go along with "Massage For Relaxation" video.Pattymooney (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Julianne Moore
Hi there. Calm down, calm down. Regarding the photo you added, it made the filmography section too narrow, and therefore harder to read. But I understand your passion, so if you really want to add it, I suggest you insert it to the "Personal life" section. About the "trivial" thing, I'm referring to the text you added. I'm sure it's a great event, but it doesn't read like an encyclopedia thing. Besides, it's unsourced, so... - Artoasis (talk) 03:04, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Artoasis, sorry if my tone was not completely relaxed.... ha ha. Yeah, Personal Life is a better idea. Any suggestions on how to source it? Other than that I shot it when I was there.....? I appreciate your advice. Pattymooney (talk) 03:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Maybe you can try searching the related news of that event. - Artoasis (talk) 04:05, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

inre Massage For Relaxation, An Instructional Video
You'll note that through my recent edits I have cleaned up the article considerably, addressing the original sense of advert and self-promotion. Its not perfect, but it is coming along. Remember WP:COI and let others work on it. Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Your continuing to edit the article about your film is not a good idea. Please read WP:COI and see how such is greatly frowned upon by Wikipedia, and could negatively color editors evaluating it. I will study your recent edits to see what may be salvable, but the content would be far more suitable if in included somewhere else, and not in an article about any one specific film.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I looked. I re-titled and moved the section for historical context and cleaned up the ref formats, but the article is about a film, and not about the history and background of video marketing. So I really do not think it should stay, even fixed, as the added section best belongs in a different article entirely, such as Marketing communications or Marketing or even better Home video... but not in an article about any one specific video, as Wikipedia has hundreds of such.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 11:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * As it is decently sourcd information, I placed it at Home video. Nice research, but still... it hurts the Massage For Relaxation article... and does not help in showing that one film's notability.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 11:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Michael, I will "back slowly away" at this point. What I was trying to do was present the state of affairs at the time when not many people had VCRs, and videos were mainly theatrical releases that were mostly rented by people and not purchased because the cost would have been astronomical - such as $79.95 to purchase one video. In 1985, there were very few companies that began producing special-interest videos, including our company, New & Unique Videos. We sold our tapes, starting at $39.95 per unit. It is difficult to reconstruct how many people actually viewed the video because many schools and libraries purchased the tapes. Once again, thank you for your continuing interest. I think I've been bitten by the Wikipedia bug and will continue to offer my input on the topics I'm familiar with, such as video production, special-interest videos, mountain biking, etc. I read "Help Write the Next Chapter of Wikimedia's History" and learned that many new editors get scared away by entrenched editors. You have, on the contrary, offered a hand up, and it is much appreciated. If I find anymore pertinent material, I will run it by you first. Pattymooney (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We both lived theorugh that history... you through the creation and marketing of a privately made instructional video, and me as a consumer in 1979 paying many hundreds of dollars in for a Betamax recorder to capture my favorite programs. But when puting information into any article, we need to ask ourselves "Is there some place this information might better belong?" You did great research into an historical time.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Shall I get rid of the Special Interest section in "Massage For Relaxation?" You warned me about hanging out there. If you think it's best to leave it off, I would defer to your suggestion. Ha! Betamax! What irony. It was by far the superior format but VHS took over. That would be an interesting chapter in Wikipedia - the reason VHS surpassed Betamax even though it was the i inferior format. Thanks for your kudos on the research.... But I am a "pack rat" and had actually saved several folders of articles pertaining to topics that interested me at the time. Can't wait to see what else my file drawers yield.... :) Pattymooney (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll take care of it.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:59, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Michael, I thought it might be a good idea if you took a look at another entry I created, The Great Mountain Biking Video, to see if I'm on the right track. Also, I guess you would advise me to let another editor (not me) clean it up? Pattymooney (talk) 21:08, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, definitely another editor. I will look in however.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:59, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay... as I have no COI, and since it was not (yet) at AFD, I have userfied the article to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/The Great Mountain Biking Video, to both protect the edit history and so I can address format and sourcing issues. As Mountain Biking Videos is currently at AFD, I could not usefy it in the same manner... but I have requested from admin that he close the discussion and userfy that one too. As I have questions for you, I will be back to ask.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:33, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Michael, thank you for all your hard work on "Massage For Relaxation." I appreciate all your Wikipedia lessons in this new and exciting (to me) Cyberscape, and thank you for shepherding the acceptance of this article. You are awesome. TigerCherry 05:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

For future articles...
As you are still learning the ropes, I suggest you might begin new articles in a userspace where they can be built and tweaked, and at which off-mainspace location you can get input and advice from other editors. The article creation wizard you've been using allows creation of user workspaces. All you need do is include a "User:Pattymooney/" immediately in front of the name you are creating.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:50, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Michael, I finally realized that and have a couple of new articles that are gestating in my userspace now. Thanks so much! TigerCherry 18:25, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks, I'll go over there and see if it's suitable. There was mention on the Shamu article that subsequently other killer whales have been referred to as "Shamu" (like Lassie, remember?) so I thought it might be applicable. If you don't think it fits there, though, I appreciate your suggestion. TigerCherry 02:35, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Turns out you were correct. Thanks!TigerCherry 02:39, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

RE: MCRD
WP:IG states that there should not be a gallery unless it's encyclopedically called for, which it is not in this instance. An encyclopedia article is not a visual tour; an "establishing shot" would not necessarily add educational value for most readers. If a reader desires to see more of the installation, he or she can easily click on the link to the Commons category.  bahamut0013  words deeds 01:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Cool, thank you for drawing my attention to that. I appreciate the lesson. What may seem obvious to a knowledgeable Wikipedian is not so much to the fumbling and bumbling newbie. Thanks again. TigerCherry 01:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you, Skier Dude... I will add it again to the page where it belongs. Patty Mooney (talk) 06:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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Good to know. Thanks. Patty Mooney (talk) 20:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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Hello Melanie, I would like to know why my links were rejected; ZEEF is human-curated and these links are hand-picked. I am the curator of those particular pages, and I don't get paid.

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Nomination of Massage for Relaxation for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Massage for Relaxation is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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 * Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Patricia Mooney here. It sounds like there is a question about the notability of Massage for Relaxation. I'm the Producer and Writer with some production assistance from Mark Schulze. Massage for Relaxation was the first instructional massage video produced. It was rare at the time to find any other female producers of special-interest videos. Not many sources are available online regarding the tape because I produced it in 1985 prior to consumer computers and prior to the Internet. The first link is the official page for Massage for Relaxation and contains photographs of the production as well as the ITVA award plaque (International Television Association). The following links lead to reviews and advertisements of "Massage for Relaxation" in the 1980s and 1990s.

There is more. You let me know if I need to upload any further links to support KEEPING MASSAGE FOR RELAXATION on WIKIPEDIA. - Yours truly, Patricia Mooney ≈≈≈≈