User talk:Pauciloquence/Archive 1

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Hey Pauciloquence welcome to Wikipedia. It's such a beautiful thing to be willing to contribute to the biggest encyclopedia project in the world. As understandable the syntax are quite not so easy to learn, that's why I'd recommend the Tea house to you. It's made up of experienced Editors who would be more than willing to help guild your way through. I can also help a bit if you need, just ask! And once again a belated welcome to Wikipedia!!!!. Mahveotm (talk) 06:13, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing. In the articles that I have been studying, the infobox sections are always first and then the article text follows next. I only adjusted the source code to concur with what I have noted. Is the order different for Nigerian article subjects? Thanks for your help. Pauciloquence (talk) 06:27, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Zeleny
Hey Pauciloquence: Charlie Zeleny Page: Still Sourcing + Formatting Current Document, Please Refrain From Removing Links For A Couple Days

Please do not delete or alter un-sourced info or change formatting yet on this page. Everything is being formatted and sourced over the next couple of days. Thank you very much.


 * There is way too much unsourced intricate detail in the article. Please feel free to add back sourced and referenced info. The article still needs a great deal of trimming and removal of over linking. Naming every station or newspaper that ever mentioned the subject imparts no knowledge about him. Add referenced statements and info, thanks. Please discuss further on article talk page. Pauciloquence (talk) 10:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. Spent a good deal of time working on the format to clean up the article first and foremost and was adding in the sources currently when you removed much of the article. Would be great if you can hold off on editing things for a bit. If you can't, will have to add back individually very slowly which will be extra time consuming.

There is information in this article that has been on the Wikipedia site for 5 years that you removed that appears to be pertinent for a prominent drummer, specifically his gear drumset breakdown. Check here for a drummer that is referenced in the Charlie Zeleny article for a Gear breakdown example sourced similarly as was on the site before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Roddy


 * Unsourced info can be removed at any time. Please see talk page for article. Please sign your post with four of these ~ You have plenty of time to add sourced and referenced info to the article. Just because a lot of unsorced info was on there for five years is no excuse. Like I said unsourced info can be  removed at anytime. Maybe you might want to work on your updated version in your sandbox or something. best regards. Pauciloquence (talk) 11:17, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Just recently started using the preview sandbox situation which is why the updates were now coming much more slowly but more completely over here. Will have to go through and manually update everything individually then. Understood about sourcing and will do so thoroughly for all noteworthy biographical information on the subject.

In the meantime, can you point me to any drummer pages that you feel are more along the lines of what this should look like overall?

Here are similar drummers that Charlie Zeleny has been associated with throughout his projects:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Bozzio
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jarzombek
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Roddy
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Adler
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Minnemann
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Portnoy

The Gear section looks like it was the listed the same as the other drummers' pages and should be added back in as it was. Furthermore, the photo directly next to the Gear section shows the Gear that was listed. This specific picture actually shows up on Page 1 of a Google Search for the term "drumset" underneath Terry Bozzio's drumset. Please let me know. Thank you very much.

Charlie Zeleny Wikipedia Page
This is starting to appear to be a targeted negative campaign against the subject's site with the amount of massive editing you have personally done on this particular page (almost -12,000 words in 2 days). This is very peculiar especially since you have only 2 days worth of editing history with the majority of deletions happening on the Charlie Zeleny page when all other pages in your history are very minor edits (even when these pages have the same problems you claim the Charlie Zeleny page has).

The current page of Charlie Zeleny has 41 References so far and there will be the addition of many more to support any and all claims found in the subject's article. These 41 references are already almost 4x as many as other major drummer figures on Wikipedia including one that Charlie Zeleny has taken over for named Chris Adler from Lamb of God when Charlie joined Blotted Science (Chris Adler has only 11 sources on a page that has no problems whatsoever). The fact that the Charlie Zeleny page is experiencing this much difficulty with this amount of sources and references makes no sense whatsoever when there are many other major drummer figure sites that are very similar in format, style and overall information (including the deleted Gear section and other biographical information). Here are drummer pages that all have less sources currently than the Charlie Zeleny page of drummers who are associated with the subject on his projects (there are many more to list if needed):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Bozzio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jarzombek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Roddy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Adler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Minnemann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Portnoy

Here are other drummer pages with less sources than the current Charlie Zeleny page and similar sources that are being disputed. These pages are existing without any problems whatsoever (and are a short list of drummers starting with the last name starting with A to use as an example):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Abbruzzese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Acu%C3%B1a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Aldridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Allen_%28drummer%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Appice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Appice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Aronoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Augusto

The amount of negative edits and difficulty in being able to adequately update this page for the Wikipedia community due to the Pauciloquence negative targeted editing campaign is extremely concerning and needs to stop.

Pauciloquence, please refrain from editing this page moving forward otherwise formal action will have to be taken. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.35.194.25 (talk) 13:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I will be continuing to edit this and other pages. Just because you do not like that I am enforcing the policies and guidelines of wikipedia does not me you can tell me to stop editing an article. By all rights I should ask you if you have a conflict of interest with the article subject since you seem to be for leaving in huge sections of unsourced information.

Saying other articles have this or that is no excuse. Each article stands on its own and must follow policy and guidelines. On a BLP article unsourced info maybe removed at anytime. Unreliable sources may also be removed. Best regards! Pauciloquence (talk) 13:43, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hounding
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Thank you Light Show
Hello ,

Thank you for your kind words on another page in wikipedia. I appreciate the support you give there and elsewhere. Can I ask for your help on how to ask for an overturn of this wrongful vendetta and retribution themed sudden block mastered by that editor? I did not even have an opportunity to defend my self against their coincidence based points indictment. That does not seem too fair. Please help. I have done nothing wrong. I am me, not someone else. I only want to copy edit and create a few new articles on wikipedia. I plan to stay away completely from any and all editors except when absolutely necessary. I am going to avoid wikipedia politics, and stay away from owned pages so as not to get into any conflict. Can you explain to me how to get started? Thanks. Pauciloquence (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I guess you could start here and give it a try. But with this character on your tail, who knows. Within minutes after he drove by the Commons on two occasions I got blocked, twice. --Light show (talk) 21:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciate you Light Show
Thanks so much Light Show. I appreciate you. Thanks to you I have started filling out a request. Thanks for your help. Please keep an eye out here in case I have some other questions about how to get the block overturned. Email me sometime. Happy New Year! Pauciloquence (talk) 01:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Pauciloquence!


Happy New Year! Pauciloquence, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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