User talk:Paul210

Alan Clare
Please do not remove completely appropriate unreferenced tags from this article, or any other articles you have removed this or similar tags from. They are there for a reason. Please read WP:A, which is an official Wikipedia policy, and WP:CITE for guidance. if you continue to remove such appropriately added tags, you may in future receive warings for vandalism or disruption to wikipedia. DDStretch   (talk)  15:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Civil
You may wish to read WP:CIVIL as your recent edits to my talk page have certainly breached this. At no point have I criticised you personally. Fraslet 17:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

André Previn
hmmm, i noticed you reverted by edits regarding posting images without licenses...just thought i'd let you know that the image was deleted from wikipaedia. i wasn't being a dick...i was just tryin' to be helpful, and i didn't want to get into a revert-war when i already knew the outcome. any-who...c’est la vie --emerson7 | Talk 21:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I feel that images should only be removed if copyright holders object. Very rarely have I seen photographs used inappropriately. Thanx for comments Paul210 12:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * unfortunately copyright laws don't see it that way, and violations could subject wikipaedia to a ton of liability. the rules used to be more lenient but something must have happened to cause the change. --emerson7 | Talk 17:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Lorraine Desmarais
You left me a message in regards to my marking of this article as a speedy delete only a matter of minutes after its creation. You also included a disparaging remark as to whether I have nothing better to do with my time than edit Wikipedia. However, it is a true statement, as I really don't have anything else to do now that the semester at the university at which I attend has ended. And I'm not the only one spending time guarding against new articles. Anyway, that's not the point of me writing on your talk page. I still think your article should be deleted as it doesn't contain any sources. I'll be keeping an eye on it. Useight 03:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Your opinion would be greatly appreciated
Hello there, I am a fellow member of Wikiproject jazz. I was wondering, if you had a moment to spare, if you would be willing to give your opinion on a matter at Categories for discussion/Log/2007 June 15 concerning a category I created. The category is, and it has been proposed that the article be merged with Musicians of New Orleans and American jazz musicians. This is precisely why I created the category, because it seemed to me the birthplace of jazz music and continous modern symbol of jazz certainly deserves a category unto itself. Regardless of your opinion, I would greatly appreciate your input there so as to have a discussion over the matter. Thanks. (Mind meal 03:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC))

New categories for jazz musicians
Hello fellow member of WikiProject Jazz! I am delivering this message to all members of the project to inform them of a major addition to the evolution of this project. Please see Category:Jazz musicians by genre to familiarize yourselves with the new categories for jazz musicians. Most of the genre categories contain sub-genres in their drop-down menus, so be sure to open them up! I am sending this to everyone to speed up the population of these categories. The sub-genres have been carefully researched to ensure they belong under their corresponding "mother genre"! And please, when in doubt do not categorize something via an assumption. Well, that about covers it! Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.(Mind meal 05:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC))

reverting reverts
Greetings Paul210, I have reverted your previous revert on the Jim Mullen article as I can find no explanation for you to remove the recently-added update. Please discuss motives on article discussion page. Thank you. --Technopat 19:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Stan getz "clutter"
Hi i have put back my notes in the Getz discography - happy to remove them again if there is a consensus but would like a discussion first - cheers Istanbuljohnm 07:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

All Day Breakfast Show
I have reverted your edit to this article because it was based on unfounded speculation. If you have any firm evidence that ADBS has been permanently shelved, then please re-submit with credible sources cited. -- Zaphod Beeblebrox 08:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Broxburn, West Lothian
Re your request for citations on the above article. OK, I'll add the references on the historical aspects of the page when I'm next off work. Update: added bibliography to article 23/10/07. Tissues 09:44, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Alex McLeish
Football managers are included in squad templates, hence it is appropriate to include the squad template in the manager's article. Cheers. --Jameboy 23:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You Tube Links.
Please do not reinsert links that were removed over their status.

If you wish to re-insert the link please provide a rationale on the talk page, or in the edit summary as to the status of the clip in question.

Linking to material of doubtful status (esp video clips on You Tube) reflects badly on the project, and can create legal risks. (Some other websites have been shut down for merely linking to potential copyvios.)

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Auto-Wiki Browser
Congratulations!! You have been approved to use Auto-Wiki Browser. Just download it from here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=158332

And continue editing! -- The Placebo Effect (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Keith Jarrett
The link to "Watch Out For Steely Dan" was not dead, it just had a missing character space. I have now reinstated it. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Removal of trombonist "Austin Little"
Austin Little was recently removed by you, user Paul210, under the statement that he is not a noteworthy trombonist. Little's biggest achievement perhaps was his tour and live sessions with Jeff Coffin. In one of Coffin's pieces, Little holds a trombone 4 minute trombone solo. Little currently plays in little known bands Poncho and Lefty, but I feel that his contribution with Coffin are achievement enough. If Wikipedia is truly trying to become a comprehensive source I don't see why Little shouldn't be added. If your main dissent arises from the missing Wikipedia page, I would like to point out the others in the list without a Wikipedia page.

If that is not enough, I will volunteer to make a page for Austin Little. I met Little at a show in Tennessee and received his autograph alongside Jeff Coffin's. I believe a friend of mine has his contact information.

Thank you,

Fjchapman (talk) 23:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Update:

Further research on Little's career reveals even more evidence as a notable trombonist. Little has played alongside Greg Osby, Lee Konitz, Dick Oatts, and Snooky Young just to name a few popoular names. Little is young and his career is rapidly growing. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter.

Fjchapman (talk) 23:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, Paul. I will proceed over the next week to compile an article on Austin Little's career. He has a website that is currently 'coming soon,' so when it is complete I expect there to be more information about him available.

Thanks, Fjchapman (talk) 18:42, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Michael Winner / Michael Dinner
With regard to your reversion of my addition to the Michael Winner entry, namely the reference to D Walliams' and M Lucas' parody of him in their highly-acclaimed series Little Britain, I hardly think it constitutes vandalism. Please read the article you sent me on vandalism, and it will tell you, 'Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism'. To be frank, the aforementioned article is starved of citations, references and sources, and thus I find your decision to remove a harmless solid reference quite laughable. Scribbler1969 (talk) 15:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Notability vs. having a Wikipedia article
Greetings Paul210 - I've just noticed that you've deleted loads of redlinks at the List of jazz saxophonists. While I fully agree with you in principal - the leader does specify "saxophonists with Wikipedia articles" (or words to that effect) I think maybe you could try not bite the newcomers (any experienced editor would know where it's at) by saying that their contributions are non-notable. It's just a suggestion, but maybe you could wikilink them to the request page in question. I'm sure that many/most of them probably are excruciatingly non-notable, but one of those redlinks I've seen does refer to a notable saxophonist who - Wikipedia is still not definitive :) - does not yet have an article here. I'll try to find time to sort it out later. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 22:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC) PS. You'd be amazed at some of the notable jazz musicians I've seen nominated for speedy deletion here - and, I must say, finally "saved" by people who know where it's at!
 * PPS. Just realised that your "warning" was posted after the redlinks had been made. --Technopat (talk) 22:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Greetings Paul210 - thanks for your reply on my talk page. Please accept my apologies if you think I was criticizing you - I wasn't. It's been a long hot day here and maybe my tone was a bit "over the top". I certainly wasn't questioning your knowledge, it's just that I've noticed that many experienced editors tend to come down really hard on newcomers who genuinely want to contribute and are still learning the ropes. BTW, I'm contributing to a new article Nicknames of jazz musicians which might interest you. Actually, I'm expecting it to be an AfD candidate at any moment now, but while it's up, it's great! I, for one, am getting loads of knowledge out of it while it's there. Maybe you can help us out. The editor who set it up must be on holiday these days and I'm a bit out of my depth as to how to wikify it a bit better. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 23:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

List of jazz saxophonists
Hi there Paul210. While I appriciate the need for maintaining an accurate list, I think your attempt to prevent the inclusion of red linked articles on the list is counterintuitive to both the wikipedia editing philosophy and the usefulness of the list. In this case, the person in question is highly notable (famous in fact) and his biography is included in all of the major music encyclopedias. I don't see how adding a red link to a highly notable saxophonist can in any way be detrimental to this list. On the contrary, it adds to the list's value in terms of comprehensiveness and, if similar additions are made, it may in fact encourage more people to create articles on notable saxophonists. This is the only list I have ever come across on wikipedia with a no red link policy and to me it seems like that policy inhibits or even discourages content growth. Further, the list becomes so willy nilly in terms of coverage that the list itself seems to be pointless. With obvious biographical gaps on this list its value is significantly diminished.Singingdaisies (talk) 15:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear Singingdaisies

That is all only your opinions. It gives you no right to vandalize the page.Please check your own talk page for more on this. Paul210 (talk) 18:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I am taking this to WP:ANI if we don't sort this out soon. Vandalism threats for constructive edits? This is totally ridiculous! In no way was my action vandalism. I removed a guideline created for the sole purpose of WP:OWNership. The 'guideline' is frankly a violation of wikipedia policy. If that guideline isn't removed I will be seeking administrative review. Second, the addition of a name is not vandalism and a "google search" is not good research. As I had stated previously, an entry in the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians certainly indicates notability and meets the requirement of WP:N. Here is the exact entry from Grove:


 * Smith, Ben(jamin J.)
 * (b Memphis, 1 March 1905). American alto saxophonist and clarinetist. After playing with lesser-known ensembles in Tennessee and Texas he led his own band, the Blue Syncopators (1927–9). He worked briefly in Omaha, Nebraska, and led a group in Kansas City, then played with the bandleaders Jesse Stone (1929), George E. Lee (1930), Grant Moore, and Eli Rice. In 1932 he led the White Hut Band in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Later he worked with Blanche Calloway and Charlie Gaines, and directed and took part in recording sessions by the Washboard Rhythm Kings. Around 1934 he moved to New York, where he played with Fess Williams, Claude Hopkins (c March 1937 – January 1938), and Jabbo Smith (1938). He then performed and made recordings with Hot Lips Page, with whose band his warm-toned clarinet playing may be heard to advantage. During the 1940s Smith worked with Lucky Millinder, Andy Kirk (c April 1942–1944), and Snub Mosley (1945–c1947), but he was mainly active as the leader of his own groups. As well as continuing to lead bands in the 1950s he organized his own business as an arranger and copyist and owned a record company. Around 1953 he took up tenor saxophone to play with rhythm-and-blues groups.


 * Bibliography
 * ChiltonW; McCarthyB


 * F. Driggs: “Ben Smith,” Record Research, no.29 (1960)


 * O. Flückiger: “Biography and Discography of Ben Smith,” Jazz Statistics, no.21 (1961), 9; no.23 (1961), 9; no.24 (1961), 8


 * T. Zwicky: “I’m Gonna Beat Me Some Washboard: the Washboard Rhythm Kings and Affiliated Groups (1930–35),” Sv, no.19 (1968), 3; no.20 (1968–9), 47; no.22 (1969), 148 [incl. discography]


 * Howard Rye"


 * Singingdaisies (talk) 23:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Here is another bio online http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/smith_ben_sax_/bio.jhtml ; although its content seems to be outdated considering its inconsistancy with Grove. It took me two seconds to find this. Honestly how much effort did you put into verifying this topic's notability? It disturbs me to think how many good edits you have reverted just because you have no faith in other editors to make positive contributions.Singingdaisies (talk) 23:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I spend a lot of my time doing DAB work on here. Part of doing DAB work often involves identifying which articles are supposed to link where and if potential links are to notable people. I often create red links to notable people in doing DAB work and sometimes add notable people to relevent lists. I find that this often leads to other editors creating articles on such people and view it as a good service to wikipedia. I don't appriciate other editors dictating how my editing time should be spent. Further, I was not the one who went to extreme measures first. Your actions have been highly hostile from the beginning. I'm merely wanted to let you know that I am not a new user who is going to let this drop.

Singingdaisies (talk) 07:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I am glad you got that off your chest. There is now an article created for Ben Smith so further argument is futile. Have a nice day. Paul210 (talk) 08:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Tom Tallitsch
I notice that a new editor has been allowed to remove all the tags from this article. I was suspicious, so I googled the new editor's name and found this new editor is directed related to the previous editor and the subject of the article. I've re-added the COI and notability tags, as a quick Google search shows that Carrie Ellmore's legal name is Carrie Ellmore-Tallitsch. -- |  Uncle Milty  |  talk  |  13:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Michael Cochrane
Why in the world would you think I am the subject of the article? I'M NOT. I just know and like the guy's music. Also, he has recorded for three notable labels which makes his notable himself. Everything you said was wrong. Cosprings (talk) 22:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC) WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I created the article, my user name is cosprings.

Cosprings (talk) 14:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Ross Petot
I notice, or, to be fair, have had my attention drawn to the fact that you seem to be in something of an edit war over this performer, specifically as regardfs his notability. In my view, while he clearly is not a mainstream performer, the article asserts sufficient notability to preclude speedy deletion. Please do not re-insert a speedy tag. If you feel that the article is not encyclopedic please take it to AfD. Best wishes. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 18:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I have completed the WP:AFD nomination according to procedures. I hold no opinion as to the notability of the person in question. Mangoe (talk) 20:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Further to your comment on my talk page, my point is not whether or not he qualifies under WP:BIO, but whether notability is asserted in the article. I actually feel that he qualifies under criterion 7 of WP:BAND, but I am only expressing an opinion, not taking action. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 11:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Paul210! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 2 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to insure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Gerry McNee -
 * 2) Rainer Brüninghaus -

GA reassessment of Kevin Spacey
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Kevin Spacey/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Gerry McNee


The article Gerry McNee has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unreferenced and no evidence of any notability

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