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April 2019
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:01, 25 March 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

(Please excuse this post if it is a duplicate!)

DYK nomination of Lydia Purdy Hess
Hello! Your submission of Lydia Purdy Hess at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ida O'Keeffe
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mawjoudin Queer Film Festival
Materialscientist (talk) 04:31, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Gene Ritchie Monahan
Materialscientist (talk) 00:17, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lydia Purdy Hess
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Inviting you to discuss the merge of Escherian Stairwell
I created the Escherian Stairwell page today and user Elmidae is currently holding a discussion. You can see my full opinion on the discussion page but I am very neutral (originally positive) about this. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 22:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, ! I like the article, it's an interesting story. I do support the merge. Imagine, for instance, that ten university groups come up with Kickstarters and videos in the future. Penrose stairs could have a section like "Attempted creations" or something like that.
 * Those are my 2¢. = paul2520 (talk) 11:49, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean, I guess I'll change my responce to positive so we can speed up the merge process. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

May you join this month's editathons from WiR!
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Growth team updates #7
Welcome to the seventh newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Newcomer homepage release this week
The main feature that the team has been working on over the last month is the newcomer homepage. This feature gives newcomers a place on the wiki to get oriented, learn about editing, and see their impact (see the accompanying screenshot from Test Wikipedia). We intend to release this feature to Czech, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias on May 2nd.

Like the other Growth team features, this will be deployed in a controlled experiment, in which half of newcomers will have access to their homepage and half will not. Users with the feature will be able to access it by clicking their username at the top of their browser, and it will only be available on desktop -- not mobile. Experienced users who want to see their homepage will be able to turn it on in their preferences.

Wikis receiving the newcomer homepage can expect these things:


 * Additional questions will come to the help desk from the "help module" on the homepage.
 * Mentors who have signed up for the "mentorship module" will start to receive questions on their user talk pages.
 * More users may create and edit user pages through the "start module".



Recent and future homepage development
The most important piece developed for the homepage over the last month is the "start module", which gives newcomers clear actions to take when they are new: add/confirm their email, go through a tutorial, start their user page. We learned about the need for this module from user tests last month. The next priorities for the newcomer homepage are:


 * Mobile design: to work well in mobile browsers, the homepage needs a separate design and engineering. See the accompanying mockups for potential mobile designs.
 * Features for discovery: only about 15% - 30% of newcomers will discover their homepage by clicking their username at the top of their browser. We are going to be designing additional ways for newcomers to find out about it.
 * Additional modules: the initial version contains some of the simpler modules. Potential upcoming modules include task recommendations and a feed of activity on the wiki.

Other updates

 * Help panel leading indicators: our team published data on the help panel's initial performance. The evaluation exposes some areas for improvement, but we think the help panel's behavior so far is healthy and that it is not having a negative impact on the wikis.  We will be publishing additional data, making plans, and asking for community thoughts around the future of the help panel over the course of the next two weeks.  If you are interested in trying out the help panel on your wiki, please let us know on our team's talk page.
 * Long term plans: the team had a week of planning meetings, in which we talked about some longer-term ideas for Growth work. Some of the top ideas are: to extend the newcomer homepage to help user's build their identity through a user profile, and to revisit the "engagement emails" project that the team put on hold.  Over the next month, we will be asking for community conversation around how the team can spend our time in the next fiscal year, that starts in July.

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Call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019
Welcome to a special newsletter from the Growth team! This special newsletter is not about Wikimedia Foundation Growth team projects. Instead, it is a call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019. We think that many people who receive this newsletter may have something valuable to contribute to this space at Wikimania. We haven't translated the newsletter, because Wikimania's language is English.

Please see below for the message from the organizers of the Community Growth space at Wikimania.

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Wikimania 2019 is organized into 19 “spaces”, which are all accepting proposals for sessions. This message comes from the team organizing the Community Growth space.

Since you are interested b Growth team projects, and potentially involved in welcoming newcomers initiatives on your wiki, we would like to invite you to submit a proposal to the Community Growth space because of the actions you’ve done around newcomers on wikis. The deadline for submission is June 1. See below for Community Growth submission topics and session formats. Topics and sessions have to be in English.

In the Community Growth space, we will come together for discussions, presentations, and workshops that address these questions:


 * What is and is not working around attracting and retaining newcomers?
 * How should Wikimedia activities evolve to help communities grow and flourish?
 * How should our technology and culture evolve to help new populations to come online, participate and become community members?

Recommended topics: please see this link for the list for the list of recommended topics. If you do not plan to submit a proposal, you can also suggest additional topics here. If your topic does not fit into our space, remember that there are 18 other spaces that could welcome you sharing your knowledge and perspective.

Types of session. We prefer sessions that are participatory, interactive, promote conversations, and give a voice to parts of our movement that are heard less often. Please see this link for the list of recommended session formats.

Poster submissions. Posters are also a good way to introduce a topic, or show some results of an action. Please consider submitting one!

More information about the Community Growth space, topics, and submission formats is available on the proposal page.

Please submit your proposal. The reviews will happen at the beginning of June.

If you have questions about Wikimania in general, please ask them on the Wikimania wiki.

On behalf of the Community Growth leadership team, Trizek (WMF), 11:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
 * Backlog drive coming soon


 * News
 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


 * Discussions of interest
 * A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
 * There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
 * What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7242 Low – 2393 High – 7250

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June events with WIR
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Autopatrolled
Hey Paul, I am currently working on getting autopatrolled, (you can see my request here). While that's happening I would like my two pages to be reviewed. I am pretty proud of them and they will only show up on Google if they are reviewed. Unfortunately, no one wants too review them. Please review them. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 00:33, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Namechk
 * Petit Tube
 * Hey, . Nice work! I will do a more thorough review later today. = paul2520 (talk) 14:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks, ! = paul2520 (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 22:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello paul, i need Help
First of all, tank you for you welcoming! i wanted to ask how do i do when i don't agree with an administrator ? He deleted an article i made for "lack of references" while i putted 2 TV show made by the OFFICIAL NATIONAL TELEVISION about the person i wrote the article on. One is a 50 minutes show about his filmography and the other is a 30 minute show about one of his project. He is an independant filmmaker and "Artivist" so he doesn't have a great visibility on medias but he is VERY famous here. I'm making my "mémoire" on his cursus that why i made the page about him. P.S i'm certain and deeply sadned by th fact that our National Television isn't considered as a real source of information and i really believe that the admin decision (since he's french) is influenced by the fact that french people tend often to stigmatize and under estimate arab people and medias. Thanks for your time Lecteur Anonyme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lecteuranonyme (talk • contribs) 16:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, ! I'm sorry to hear about this experience. You might want to read Notability (people), specifically section 2.3 on creative professionals. Based on what you wrote here, I'm guessing they either are not widely cited, or perhaps haven't gotten "significant critical attention".
 * Was there an "article for deletion" discussion?
 * I think you should consider making a draft; since the page was deleted, I have no way to see it to provide more insight. I hope this helps! = paul2520 (talk) 12:16, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #8
Welcome to the eighth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

May was a busy month, and we apologize for a slightly late newsletter.

General news

 * The Growth team will begin to work with the Arabic Wikipedia community as a new target wiki. This is in addition to Korean, Czech, and Vietnamese Wikipedias.
 * Several members of the Growth team attended Wikimedia Hackathon. To see what we worked on and learned, read this update (in English).
 * Wikimania 2019 is coming up in August. The conference will include a "Community Growth" space, for sessions about how our communities expand through software and programs.

Early results from newcomer homepage release



 * The newcomer homepage was deployed in Czech and Korean Wikipedias on May 6 for desktop users. It is deployed in an A/B test, so that half of newcomers have access to the homepage and half do not.  They access it by clicking on their username in their personal tools along the top of the window.
 * After about a month of usage, we see a few interesting trends. We think that the usage is going well so far, as we continue to work on the feature
 * About half of users who visit the homepage click on a link or button.
 * About half of users visit the homepage more than once, with about a fifth of users visiting on multiple days.
 * Users are interacting with all the different modules on the page -- there is no clear favorite.
 * Users have been asking questions to their mentors -- but not on the help desk.

Next steps for homepage



 * Because we are seeing good reactions to the homepage from the first users, we are prioritizing work that helps more users find their homepage:
 * Mobile homepage: the team is currently building the mobile version of the homepage. We tested this design with five users, giving us confidence that the design is strong.
 * Features to aid discovery: only a minority of newcomers who have a homepage will find their homepage on their own. The team is designing features that help newcomers learn where to find their homepage.  The most important feature will point to the homepage link using a GuidedTour.
 * User tests showed that the most important thing to add to the homepage are clear task recommendations to help newcomers get started with editing right away. This is the module that we will be working on next.

Future of team in the next year

 * The Growth team has been working since September 2018, and we're now planning for the work we'll be doing for the next fiscal year, which begins in July.
 * Though we have not yet developed a feature that clearly increases growth in our target wikis, we believe that the features we have been developing have high potential to increase growth if we continue to work on them.
 * Therefore, the team will continue to work on the features we have started, and we will develop related features that improve the overall newcomer experience. These features may include:
 * Improvements to how newcomers can build their user pages and develop their on-wiki identity. See initial notes here.
 * Improvements to how newcomers receive notifications on-wiki and through email, so that they quickly find out if other users are contacting them.
 * Processes that help newcomers get awards or recognition for good work.
 * Ways for newcomers to see the activity on the wiki and find others who share their interests.
 * We will start discussions with communities to help us define these ideas before we work on them.

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Belle Delphine
Hey Paul, sorry to bother you again, but this is my last time I will ask you, I promise.

I am counting on you to review Belle Delphine, she has blown up so much lately that I had to create it. Plus all my friends (plus like 2,000,000 others) want her page done too.

There was a draft and I am trying to get the draft deleted.

Hopefully it's notable enough, it'd be sad if it isn't.

AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 09:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello again, ! Thanks for reaching out -- and doesn't have to be the last time; I'm open to helping others.
 * I'm worried because the page reads like what WP:One event says not to do. Is she only notable for not posting "promised" lewd content? Having many followers and fans isn't enough & I just did a quick couple of searches and am not seeing many reliable sources on her. This might be one, but still not enough.
 * I'm not making a decision immediately, but thought I would tell you my initial thoughts. We definitely can't list birthday and location of birth without a source, and I only am seeing other user-contributed sites out there with the same info.
 * Would you be able to do more digging into third-party sources, like news articles, before I review further?
 * Bear in mind that even if many friends like this person, that's not enough to merit an encyclopedia article. It seems like you enjoy her social media sites & there are other fan pages/blogs, but nothing suggesting to me that she needs a Wikipedia article at this time. = paul2520 (talk) 11:37, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to base everything off of the WP:RSP so Newsweek is good. Metro and is not and the rest (down below) aren't even on the list.


 * Digg


 * Junkee


 * Mashable


 * Business Insider


 * Insider

Oh yeah, and don't forget the videos on YouTube that have made millions of views.

AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 11:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Those sources are great, . My concerns are more with Notability (people). What has she done/won/been recognized for, other than have a large number of followers and troll them? = paul2520 (talk) 12:06, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Well she is a cosplayer. She can kinda sing
 * I'm very grateful for the work you put into Wikipedia. And it's great that you have a subject of interest.
 * I'm not convinced of the notability, per above. Note that the draft you mentioned was declined, also for notability (even if the draft had other issues, notability is an important factor to establish). But I will leave this to other reviewers. They might have a perspective I don't have, or another way to explain it. = paul2520 (talk) 12:24, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Well she is a cosplayer. She can kinda sing It says on her Patreon that she loves painting, ice-skating, and being creative (especially with makeup) (she said that in one of her posts on Instagram). AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 12:33, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Please spend some time reading the links I've given above. That's great that she has hobbies. But her posting about those things does not make her inherently notable for our encyclopedia. There must be several reliable sources (and I'll repeat what I said about notability based on one event). = paul2520 (talk) 13:25, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


Hello ,

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important. Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR. The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever. NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so  you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations. Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for  the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging. Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway. School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * QUALITY of REVIEWING
 * Backlog
 * Move to draft
 * Notifying users
 * PERM
 * Other news

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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Growth team updates #9
Welcome to the ninth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Opening Growth features to more wikis
The Growth team has existed for about one year. During that time, we have developed several features that we think can help increase retention. Though we are still gathering data to detect scientifically whether the features increase retention, we think that some of the features are ready to be deployed on more wikis that want to experiment with them. If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together if your wiki is eligible.

Then, go through the checklist to start the process of getting these features:


 * Help panel: allow newcomers to find help and ask questions while they edit.
 * Welcome survey: learn what topics and types of edits newcomers are interested in.
 * EditorJourney: learn what workflows newcomers go through on their first day.

General news

 * A new quarter of the year has started, and the team has set our goals for the next three months. The most important goals are:
 * Newcomer homepage: increase activity through a task recommendations module. Now that we have seen several weeks of positive activity on the newcomer homepage, we think that the most important thing to add is a way for newcomers to find tasks to work on. The challenge will be recommending the right kind of tasks at the right point of their journey.
 * Newcomer homepage: increase feature discovery rate by 100%. Right now, only 20% - 30% of newcomers ever visit their homepage. We want to double that number by making sure all newcomers know how to find it.
 * Help panel: increase usefulness through improvements to affordance, search, and UX flow. We have looked closely at data and anecdotes from the usage of the help panel, and we plan to pursue specific improvements to increase its effectiveness (see accompanying image of a feature that helps newcomers find responses to their questions).
 * Wikimania is coming up next month, which includes a "Community Growth" space. We hope to see people from all communities there to talk about how to bring newcomers into our movement.
 * We have started to deploy features to our team's fourth target wiki: Arabic Wikipedia. That wiki is the biggest one we target, it has a high percentage of mobile users, and also is our first right-to-left language.  This will help us make sure that our features are valuable for as many types of users as possible.

Mobile homepage and early analysis

 * The mobile version of the newcomer homepage was deployed to Czech, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. Now, newcomers can access their homepage from both desktop and mobile devices.
 * We have published our first set of data about the performance of the newcomer homepage. In summary, we are happy with the homepage's performance so far. We see about half of visitors clicking on something, and the majority of them returning to the homepage multiple times.
 * Because we see positive usage of the homepage, we will deploy several small features in the next two weeks that help more newcomers discover their homepage (see accompanying image of a feature that helps newcomers discover their homepage from their empty Contributions page).
 * As listed in our goals above, we'll be starting to focus on adding task recommendations to the newcomer homepage. We'll be publishing early thoughts on this feature so that community members can give their thoughts and advice.

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
 * Coordinator

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
 * Deletion tags

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
 * Paid editing


 * Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
 * Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent  enhancements to  the New Pages Feed and  features in the Curation  tool, and there are still more to  come. Due to the wealth  of information  now displayed by  ORES, reviewers are strongly  encouraged to  use the system now rather than Twinkle; it  will  also  correctly  populate the logs.
 * Not English
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
 * Tools

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.

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