User talk:Paul W/Archive 5

DYK nomination of Alexander Duckham
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DYK for Alexander Duckham
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New article about mobile learning platform
Hey Paul, I am the CMO at SoloLearn - the largest community of mobile code learners. I saw you are interested to write about businesses and IT companies and thought SoloLearn could be of your interest. It features a new and unique way to learn coding on mobile and has quietly grown its popularity among millennials reaching 11M learners globally - https://techcrunch.com/tag/sololearn/. Will be happy to have your opinion on what we are doing in any case. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArminaM (talk • contribs) 13:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

English football sexual abuse scandal
Just wanted to congratulate you on single-handedly covering this vital topic and doing it so well. I hope you don't mind but I've nominated it at ITN for main page inclusion under "ongoing". It's not likely to succeed as many of the voters there aren't even really sure what "football" means, but I thought it was worth a try. Keep up the great work. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:51, 4 December 2016 (UTC):
 * Thanks User:The Rambling Man. Nice to be appreciated - so many of our niche endeavours go 'under the radar'. Paul W (talk) 20:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed, although sometimes that's a good place to remain, sticking your head above the parapit around here can often lead to dreary migraines relating to ignorance or Arbcom...! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it needs expanding (beyond English football) and moving now, especially in light of this.... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:29, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:The Rambling Man. I have used the article Talk page to suggest the article be renamed. UK, maybe? Paul W (talk) 21:53, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Malta allegations
Hi there Paul. I edit the part on the article United_Kingdom football sexual abuse scandal to give some background and context of Higgins, something which was on Maltese news since the late 1980s, late 1990s and again in 2016. The edit was in good faith and even though it relates to Malta in an article related to the UK, I think it is contextual - as apparently he flew to get a jon in Malta when allegations against him in the UK were being investigated, and managed to avoid severe questioning to British authorities. I did not went into details as I only included what the source said. What was the exact reason for the removal of content?Continentaleurope (talk) 15:52, 12 December 2016 (UTC) Continentaleurope (talk) 15:52, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi. Prior to your addition, the article already included links to Malta and the Malta FA in the sub-section below, so I consolidated your useful addition into that, retaining the citation and the additional information from the source. However, some points - for example, about apparent contraventions of Maltese laws - were not made in the BBC article. If you have other Maltese references that cover this, or relate to Higgins's conduct in the past, it would be good to have them. Best wishes. Paul W (talk) 16:27, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Oooh! Thank you. Really interesting woman and your article stimulated me to tackle a couple of other red links: Eva McLaren and Mary Stewart Kilgour (which is still a bit stub-by, as I don't have ODNB access at the mo). Might be interested in Cambridge (I am a Wikimedia UK volunteer and trainer), but it will depend on the dates. Paul W (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Amy Richlin
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DYK for Fulham Refuge
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Copyright problem on J & E Hall
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 * Thanks Diannaa. Have left an acknowledgement on your talk page. Paul W (talk) 11:30, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Bell Pottinger
I'm trying to get a handle on what's going on at that article. You are welcome to join conversation at WP:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. - Bri (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

While I am mindful of WP:AGF, you have disclosed that you are a PR practitioner in London. Although I am supportive of your edits, and was going to request protection for the page myself because of the vandalism, I would like you to please confirm that you have no personal or professional ties to Bell Pottinger and its staff.Park3r (talk) 10:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I can confirm I have no personal or professional ties to Bell Pottinger or any of its staff. I have, of course, read about them frequently in national and trade media, and have made past edits to the Bell Pottinger article based on those sources. For what it's worth, I work predominantly in business-to-business PR in the construction technology sector (a small niche area well outside Bell Pottinger's client interests), and to the best of my knowledge have never engaged with any Bell Pottinger people. Paul W (talk) 10:45, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Park3r (talk) 10:46, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Massey Shaw and other LFB Chief Officers.
Excellent job on the Eyre Massey Shaw merger and update. Impressed Paul W. As you may have gather over my paygrade but there are at two other former LFB Chief Officers worthy of similar treatment if you are interested. Happy to supply all necessary bachground material. One is Arthur Dyer 1918-1933, the other is Major C.C.B. Morris. MC. (RetiredLFB (talk) 21:09, 14 July 2017 (UTC)).
 * Thanks RetiredLFB. Happy to collaborate on further articles if we can establish their notability. If you start an article in your Sandbox, let me know and we can work on it to get it into a publishable state. Best wishes User:Paul W (talk) 11:07, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Many thank for your message dated Sept re Leslie Leete. Delighted if you would add what you have. I have a handle on doing the odd edit but starting from scratch is clearly above my pay=grade at present. But given time it can only get better. Thanks Dave Pike-Retired LFB.

Social Housing in the UK WikiProject
Hi Paul, I notice that you edited the Brandon Estate article I created yesterday. I've also started a Wikiproject, WikiProject Social Housing in the United Kingdom to organise some of the work of creating articles on estates. Perhaps you'd like to help with it? Wikimedia UK would eventually like to run an event with interested people to improve this content, so please feel free to contact me if you would be interested to help out with the project - john.lubbock@wikimedia.org.uk - Thanks! Jwslubbock (talk) 12:23, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks John. I lived on the Brandon Estate for a couple of years in the early 1990s. Might well be interested in an event on this area. Paul W (talk) 16:14, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

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COI edit question
Hi, I'm having a bit of difficulty with your disclosures - especially considering you stated some are under NDA. Could you help me with something? Is the recent editing on/about Bell Pottinger such as this and this representing a client? ☆ Bri (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The edits have no relation to any client of mine, and I have no involvement with Bell Pottinger or any of its competitors. I have been editing the Bell Pottinger article since its first Wikipedia edits became news some years ago, reflecting my general interest in public relations and in ethical editing of Wikipedia. Please let me know if you need any further information. Paul W (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Agreed: great job! Dormskirk (talk) 13:31, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Interdisciplinary Design for the Built Environment
Hello Paul. I am not a regular wikipedia contributor but have had a fair amount of involvement in construction industry improvement initiatives for about 30 years or so. I appreciate this is a topic area where you are knowledgeable and I know you have contributed extensively to wikipedia. In the last few days, this has included the Construction Research and Innovation Strategy Panel page which I started, and I added slightly to your page on Richard Saxon, whom I know quite well. In addition to contributing to the work of CRISP, over the years I have written material for the old Energy Efficiency Best Practice programme later Action Energy (guides and case studies), the Construction Best Practice programmme and (as it became) Constructing Excellence (guides), the IT Construction Best Practice programme (case studies), CABE (The Value Handbook etc), the Strategic Forum (unpublished synopsis of Accelerating Change), and the SEC Group ('Sustainable buildings need integrated teams'). Through a series of happy coincidences I became the Course Director of the Interdisciplinary Design for the Built Environment (IDBE) masters course at Cambridge, which I did for over 10 years. The course was almost closed down in 2017, corresponding with my retirement as Director. The course drew on a range of ideas and inputs from industry experts but also my experience of these improvement initiatives. You will appreciate that I was keen to ensure its legacy and created a wikipedia page about a year ago. Unfortunately in my ignorance, I included the acronym IDBE in the page title and someone (perhaps you? can't remember) changed it. As I'd already created a few links which were lost, I changed it back, completely the wrong thing to have done. Then, inevitably, someone added the conflict of interest template, and then it was deleted. Someone else then re-created it, but again there were proposals to delete it, and it was deleted quite quickly, with a redirect to the Institute which took it over from 2017. No doubt there is an appeal process but I don't know enough about wikipedia even to start. I can't now see the page history, but I think you said at the time something to the effect that we don't need a page for every course. That may or may not be right (other courses are featured in wikipedia) but the IDBE course (IMHO) has got to be a leading course and is a way of delivering and promoting the very industry reforms (Latham, Egan, Morrell, Saxon etc) that you've written about. I myself have a healthy skepticism about fake claims, but at the same time I can't help feeling that we in the industry are quick to beat ourselves up, when we should be doing the opposite - we should be pulling together and promoting our successes. IDBE is part of that success story of industry improvement. I wonder if I could ask whether you would feel inclined to revise your view about the IDBE page? If so, is there some way it could be brought back without the re-direct. Or, have you any other suggestions? Sebastian Macmillan (talk) 09:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughtful reply on my talk page. I've contributed to a handful of Wikipedia entries - and only ones where I have genuine enthusiasm for the topic and can perhaps bring a unique or at least insightful perspective. I had never looked at WP:Schooloutcomes until now. Naively I had wanted to believe that Wikipedia could be contributed to by anyone and aimed to be, in your words, 'complete, neutral, balanced, accurate and reliably sourced as possible.' That ambition seems to me in some contrast to the censorship implied in the AfD page. Regardless of my own contributions including the IDBE page, I am bemused that editors pop up and on the basis of their own judgment delete or propose for deletion someone else's hard-won wikipedia entry. Understandable if the entry is commercially-biased, self-promotional, deluded or factually incorrect as per WP:Soap but harder to understand when, whatever the topic, it is neutral, balanced, accurate and reliably sourced. C'est la vie. Sebastian Macmillan (talk) 11:59, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Err—unfortunately I was expanding the lede at the time, and when I saved it (no edit conflict, bizarrely) I seem to have manage to erased all your copy-edits. Sorry about that. If you want to hang back for a few minutes, I'll fill em in again. Thanks again! —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap shit room 13:36, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll sit back for a while now.... Paul W (talk) 13:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem, I think I caught all your edits if you'd like to double-check...also removed the "In use" again!! :) Cheers,  —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap shit room 14:03, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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Barlow article.
A section of factual text was removed without reason. Can you explain why?

"It is important to note that whilst Barlow held one patent and one pending, he never actually built any of his own shields. It is a matter of public record that James Henry Greathead (Barlow's pupil), independently designed, patented and built the first cylindrical tunnelling shield used to build the Tower Subway tunnel; only the second tunnel under the Thames. Barlow was the engineer with Greathead as the contractor according to W. C. Copperthwaite in his 1906 book on subaqueous tunnelling. Whilst Greathead built the first European tunnelling shield, Alfred Ely Beach designed and built his own design of shield in New York which closely resembled Barlow's 1864 idea but again, independently. All the of these men were well acquainted with the Brunels' rectangular shield patent of 1818 and each improved upon the rectangular design in their respective ways that in 1869 both Greathead and Beach were the first people to build a cylindrical design for tunnelling shields." Ashattock (talk) 10:13, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Left message on your Talk page: The text was not "removed" from the Peter W. Barlow article, just moved. I felt it was better embedded in the relevant section of the main body of the article rather than in the lead (as per WP:lead). Paul W (talk) 12:30, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Kate Garbers


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Nomination of Kate Garbers for deletion
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