User talk:Pauledwinharperturner

July 2024
Hello, I'm Fyrael. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Deerhunter, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Additionally, it is deeply frowned upon to edit content in articles about yourself or people that you are tied to. If you are actually Paul Harper, then please make edit requests on the talk page rather than directly editing (and make sure to included published sources).'' &#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 19:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, I am Paul Harper-Turner. My legal name, prior to my marriage in which I took on my wife's last name is Paul Harper. I was a founding member of Deerhunter. I was part of the original line-up of the band and was actively practicing and recording as the bass player of the band until halfway through 2003. I was the main songwriter of the band the Floodlight Collective, which Cox and I were the main members of prior to changing the name to Deerhunter upon the addition of Dan Walton. The truth is that this page is filled with many inconsistencies and objectively false statements. The "reliable sources" on here particularly regarding the band's early career are cobbled together from interviews and accounts mostly by people that were not even there and in random publications and re-published over the years following the actual events, and somehow that was taken as fact. For instance, the band's first song played on the radio (college radio in Atlanta) was performed by myself (bass), Dan Walton (drums), Moses (keyboards), and Brad Cox. That was recorded in the spring of 2003 and circulated on CDRs locally, before any involvement from Colin Mee or Justin Bosworth. The track was called "White City," and I played bass on it and co-wrote it. The band was not even called "Deerhunter" until 2002. Moses was not in the band until near the end of 2002, and he took over drumming after Dan Walton (who named the band, and came up with that name before Cox and I were even playing with him) was outsted after having played a good bit of shows with the band as support for touring bands at clubs and house shows in Atlanta. Very little press was given to the band in the early days. Justin Bosworth's involvement (replacing me on bass) was unfortunately only over the course of a few months from the end of 2003 until his accident (very close to where Cox was hit by a car some years later) and passing. He lived with my friend Jessica at that time. Furthermore, the band did not originate in Atlanta, but in Marietta, GA where Bradford and I were living at the time (I went to Marietta High School and Brad went to Harrison High School). Bradford's move to Atlanta in late 2005, also, was in order to become my roommate in Grant Park in Atlanta. I lived with the Cox, later Mee, and eventually Lockett Pundt until 2008. Having a first hand account of most of these past events, I can tell you that much of the info regarding the band in its early years on here is simply false. Upon looking at this page after a friend told me a "fact" from this page regarding the band's history saying that the "original bass player" had passed away troubled me, since I am in fact the original bass player. I am alive and well, and this false history of a band that I started and played a significant role in during it's earliest days is extremely problematic, troubling, and objectively false. It would be nice to see this corrected.
 * Thank you,
 * -Paul Harper-Turner 2601:1C0:5685:80B0:5402:25AF:87DE:C8F (talk) 20:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Well thank you for that information and I appreciate the effort to make this article more accurate. The problem is that verifiability is one of Wikipedia's core, most important principles, and this means that we must base articles on published sources. Right now there are multiple sources that have interviews with Cox and/or Archuleta where they literally say they founded the band. Are there any interviews that you or other members have done that would verify the facts you've mentioned? If you can recall an interview or anything you might have written that got published and we can cite in the article, that would be extremely helpful.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 21:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)