User talk:Paulfield61

Note from Jena
is this really you Paul? email me if it is Jena  (talk) 14:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Note from Christine
Hi Paul,

Allow me to introduce myself: I'm User:Figureskatingfan (Christine), and I'm the Wikipedia editor that's been mostly responsible for articles related to and about The Wiggles. You might have noticed that I reverted the edits you made to your own bio article Paul Field (musician), and I wanted to explain why.

Before I do that, though, I wanted to say how much I've enjoyed working on these articles. We're huge Wiggles fans in my household; my two kids are severely developmentally disabled, and the group's music has had a profound and indescribable influence on their lives and on ours as their parents. Of course, that's nothing you haven't heard throughout the years. At the beginning of my Wikipedia editing career, I saw that all articles about The Wiggles were in sad shapes, so I took it on myself to work on them, and I think that I've been able to do some good things in the past few years. Their main article is a featured article (my very first one), and most of the others are in good quality, I believe. It's my intention to bring The Wiggles Pty Ltd, which is about your business practices, to featured article status after the beginning of the year. Of course, I've had lots of help, including from my friend Jena, who is probably the biggest supporter of all things Wiggles in the world.

I also wanted to explain some of our policies here. There has to be extensive policies in place here to ensure the quality of the articles in this encyclopedia. One of our most important group of policies have to do with biographies of living persons (BLPs), which are in place to protect the subjects of these articles from slander and other horrible things. One of those policies is to avoid using the name of subjects' children, something that I've paid particular attention to in these articles. (I understand that your daughter's name is well known, but I think it's still a good policy to follow in this case.) Wikipedia also has policies about the subject of BLPs editing their own bios, and strongly advises against it. If you'd like your bio edited, we recommend that you ask another editor. If you ask me, I'd be more than happy to do that for you, something I've done for others many times.

You need to understand, though, that I can't add anything that isn't sourced by a reliable, third party source. Wikipedia's policies about verifiability is just as important as its policies about BLPs. We can't use the subject of BLPs as sources; that breaks our policies about original research and conflict of interest because they undermine our goal of neutrality.

Sorry about this being so long, but I wanted to make sure that you understood why I reverted your edits. As with any large entity, things can get complicated here. It seems to work, though; there are scores of editors like me that are interested in and committed to Wikipedia's quality and trustworthiness, and we've been mostly successful with it. Please know that some of these policies are in place to protect people like you and those around you. For example, both Jena and I worked hard to make sure that some of the nasty rumors surrounding all the changes didn't make it into any articles about The Wiggles. Thanks for all your hard work and for what you've meant to my family, and blessings to all of you this holiday season, and as the new lineup takes effect. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

JENA
Hay paul Listion talk to Christing or me about editing the article we will do it for you and... mate don't worry we will make sure it is the TRUTH!! and not stupid rumers oh by the way...

AWESOME WIN!!!! that ROCKS!! an aria for greg again and one last aria for the oringle wiggles!!! Jena  (talk) 17:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Pablo
Hi Jena and Christine, firstly, thank you for all of your hard work and effort to keep Paul's bio (along with The Wiggles) up to date. As you can imagine, things are frantic at the moment with the tour now well underway. I thought I would respond on Paul's behalf and address some things.

Paul dedicated a lot of time and effort to updating his profile, as it was a little out of date, and was done with the aim of keeping the article up to date, factual and relevant.

Also we do not have any issues with you removing the names of his children, although we do believe that Bernadette is special and should be referenced. Particularly given the important work and relationship Paul (and the rest of The Wiggles) have with SIDS and Kids.

Is there a way for you to revert back the edits that you deleted? Otherwise, we will need to spend some time next week looking at editing this once again. I'd really appreciate your help and look forward to hearing from you soon. You can reach me via email on pablo@thewiggles.com.au Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.80.148.34 (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

AWESOME!! Jena  (talk) 14:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Responded through email. Explained WP policies and why it's not a good idea to revert back. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 15:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Pablo (and Paul), I spent some time improving Paul's bio article today. Everything I included is well-sourced and more up-to-date with info about The Field Bros. and 1964. I think that it looks much better now. Please let me know of any other sources, and if there's something that I missed. Continued good luck with the tour; wish I was in Sydney right now for one of the last concerts. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)