User talk:Paulley/Archive 1

Taboo Tuesday
Hey mate, thanks for updating the Taboo Tuesday page - but do you think it should be a plural?


 * Not really because its one single championship in a tag team devision, i would consider it to be a plural if it was mentioned as tag team title i would then rewrite it as tag team titles. you can change it to a plural if you want, it doesnt make much difference.


 * The naming conventions say that the singular should be preferred unless it always appears in the plural (like "scissors"). Remember, you can always type Taboo Tuesdays to get Taboo Tuesdays, but there's no shorthand to derive the singular from Taboo Tuesdays short of typing out Taboo Tuesday in its entirety. There's a longer rationale here.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 00:59, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Images
When uploading images please always edit the image description page and do two things:
 * 1) State the source of the image (the address of a web page, the title of the book or "I created this image myself.")
 * 2) State the copyright. The easiest way to list the copyright is to use a copyright tag. The most important tags are &#x007B;&#x007B;GFDL&#x007D;&#x007D;, &#x007B;&#x007B;PD&#x007D;&#x007D;, and &#x007B;&#x007B;fairuse&#x007D;&#x007D;. GFDL is for images that you create yourself. PD is for public domain images (either pre-1923 or released by the copyright holder). Fair use is for copyrighted images that we can use under the fair use rules in the USA.

Without proper source and copyright information, images will eventually be deleted!

You can view the image description page by clicking on an image, and edit it like any other wikipedia page: by clicking on the "edit this page" tab.

For more information:
 * About the image description page
 * The full list of copyright tags
 * Details about copyrights on wikipedia

If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know exactly where you got the images (on my talk page) and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much..

Some of the wrestleing pictures such as Image:Dictionary quebradora 0000.jpg don't have this information   &mdash; Zeimusu | Talk 02:04, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Pro wrestling contributions
Hey, thanks for your work on pro wrestling articles! You've been contributing good content. But could you do a small favor for me and proofread your changes before submitting them? Some typos have been falling through the cracks. Thanks! &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 01:33, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comment, i will try to make sure i proofread my articals more often.


 * Thanks!   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 00:59, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Naming conventions
Hey... I noticed that you've been doing some good work these professional wrestling articles and I was wondering what you thought the naming conventions for the wrestler articles. Most of them seem to go by the wrestler's real names, which is counterintuitive, especially when browsing through the list Category:Professional wrestlers. This is particularly odd for wrestlers who have been using one performance name for most of their career, especially The Undertaker. We should probably move them to the pages of their performance names in accordance with Wikipedia Naming conventions and then redirect the real name to the proper article. What do you think? --Jtalledo (talk) 19:39, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I understand what you mean, the amount of times i have wanted to know the correct link for a wrestler and i have forgotten their real name, but naming them by their gimmick, that can only really depends on the on the wrestler in question. In most cases I would agree with you, esspecially if they have used the gimmick for the main of their career. Thats why we have articles like Stone Cold Steve Austin, Big Daddy etc, but their as some problems eith this idea. wrestling is an ever changing business, with gimmicks that change just as fast, and if articles were made under the gimmick names we would gain, more, gimmick specific articles, like Dude Love. Also most wrestlers these days either go by thier real names (be it with some minor spelling differences), or they are better known by there real names. So i think unless its a legend, we will stick with real names. Thanks for asking my oppinion Paulley 20:01, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Actually the reason we have Stone Cold Steve Austin is because there is already a wrestler under Steve Williams (wrestler). Anyways. It would be nice if gimmick redirect pages could include a category, eg CM Punk would still redirect to Phil Brooks, but it would also be listed in Category:Professional wrestlers. But redirects are only parsed if they are the first line, and wikipedia doesn't seem to parse anything after them. Perhaps we need a feature request. If this would work I would vote for having all wrestler pages to be under real names. Don't know how the two Steve Williamses should be then listed as, though.
 * --Lakes 22:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I got a feeling you will find that Steve Williams (wrestler) was created long after the Stone Cold article was made. For another possible idea maybe when adding a cat to profiles may be we should list them as their gimmick (if its a long term well established one) i.e. on the Phil Brooks page we use Category:Professional wrestlers|CM Punk --- Paulley 19:40, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * One possibility would be if we could include an article under two names in a Category, but doesn't seem like it's possible at the moment.
 * --Lakes 21:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * One thing that I've found is interesting is that other celebrities are listed under their stage names, such as Natalie Portman. I think the standard we should hold wrestlers to is that if they're retired or well established under a certain gimmick name (ie. Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, Wahoo, Undertaker) then they should be listed under their gimmick name. If they are just as well known under their real name or still early in their careers, they should be listed under their real names.
 * --Liamharvester 30 June 2005 04:03 (UTC)

Professional wrestler profiles
This is the formatting used when creating or editing a professional wrestler article:

First add an introdution paragraph about the wrestler, then

== Profile == *Height: *Weight: *Birthday: *Hometown: *Trained by: *Professional debut: *Previous identities: *Finishing and signature move(s): (If a large number of items is in any of the sections, place them into a subsection) == Career == == Championships and accomplishments == *1-time WWE European Championship|WWE European Champion or, if the title has no article, *1-time WWE European Champion

Then add the category, there you go a sucessful wrestler article.

Wrestler Profile Standard
''Hi Chrysaor, thanxs alot for backing my profile standard for wrestler bios. I am glad to see that they are being used wisely and even appearing articles such as Triple H's. Keep up the good work Paulley 20:51, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)''
 * Don't mention it, I have no problem getting behind a good thing. --Chrysaor 21:11, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

NWA Titles
NWA Titles

I see you have been creating many Championship articles, which is a great help. you seem to have a good knowledge of these titles and i wondered if you could do me the favour of recreating the NWA World Tag Team Championship page and putting its titles history in the List of NWA World Tag Team Champions. Also, if possible could you go on to the National Wrestling Alliance and start a "Titles in the company" (or "NWA titles", that sorta thing) section, so there will be a place where all the exsisting NWA title infos and the recent ones you have been making can link off from --- Paulley 18:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

--- Phatcat68 14:17, 6 Jun 2005 (US ET)
 * Hello Paulley! I actually have that on my list to do, the NWA World Tag Team Titles that is. I will take care of the "Titles in the company" on the NWA page for you too. Thanks for asking and also good job on the edits that you do on the wrestling pages. I appreciate it and I know many others do too!

--- Phatcat68 16:22, 6 Jun 2005 (US ET)
 * Hi Pauley, I just got finished with the List of NWA World Tag Team Champions and hit save page and it has not showed up yet. I really hope it does because it took me about two hours to do and I really doubt I will spend that much time doing it over. Just wanted to let you know that it may not have saved. Nothing indicated that to me though.

Image copyright
Thank you for uploading Image:Recent Ric Flair pic.jpg and for stating the source. However, its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. If it is open content or public domain, please give proof of this on the image page. If the image is fair use, please provide a rationale. Thank you.
 * Feel free to delete this image, i wrongly uploaded it (as i was ment to upload the smaller version, which i did later). if i'm right its not even being used, so if you wanna delete it please go on ahead.--- Paulley 15:12, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I placed the image on Images and media for deletion Thanks Nv8200p 15:23, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Edit summary
Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Alphax &tau;&epsilon;&chi; 10:55, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:33, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Tag team
What was the purpose of making a copypaste of tag team at Tag Team wrestling and then replacing the former with a POV (and inaccurate: tag teams are not usually considered stables, although they may be affiliated with stables) stub without an edit summary or a note on the talk page? I can't see any reason for a breakout. Also, "Tag Team wrestling" is a bad title, as "tag team" is not a proper noun and should not be capitalized. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 20:32, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry, i ended up being late for work and never got to finish it properly, thats why it had no summary or msg on its talk page for which i apologise.
 * The current tag team page doesnt look into the reasons why tag teams are created, it doesnt even clearly establish what a tag team is, it looks more at the rules of tag team matches and wrestling as a tag team and not of team itself...this is why i wished to place the info of that article into one entitled tag team wrestling, but this name has an article (if i had a chance i would have moved that to "tag team wrestling (game)")... I still believe the article should be broken out, but i will make sure if i do break the article out to place a note on the talk page and such --- Paulley 11:32, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Notable users include
Paulley, please stop replacing paragraphs on wrestlers who use a given technique with lists. This is an encyclopedia, not some fansite infodump. Lists suck, and in some cases this removes information (such as who first popularized a move, or who learned it from whom). &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 20:45, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand that if it has more information (such as who first popularized a move, or who learned it from whom), then you can keep it in a stable paragraph, but if it just says:


 * "Chris Harris also uses this move in which he calls the Catatonic. Billy Gunn uses this move and he calls is the Gunn Slinger. Victoria uses the move and calls it the Spider's Web."


 * The last one of which is a different move (i did write an explanation of her variation, but it was reverted along with my other edits). I see no problem in not wasting the space and changing it to


 * "Notable users include: Chris Harris (Catatonic), Billy Gunn (Gunn Slinger)."


 * --- Paulley 10:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Wiki is not paper. Don't worry about wasting space. Worry about readability and flow.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 00:41, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

SWD316
Yes I agree with you. He once removed my answer and redid his question. I did tell him not to do it again. I have noticed that he doesn't think before he posts, and frequently find that when I answer him I get an edit conflict because he has changed his post. I see this also with his page edits, he uses a new edit for almost every single change, maybe to up his edit count or something, or just that not thinking part. --Lakes 07:07, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Figured It Out
OK, I screwed up. Look at the Chief Jay Strongbow page, I think I got it now. Mcfly85 18:44, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

ROH
The #1 Contenders Trophy was the same thing as the #1 Contendership with the top five ranking system. So basically the #1 Contender held the trophy. ↪Lakes 13:18, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Stunner
I think so yes. As with cutter, there's a previous name, but it isn't as widely used. (Whippersnapper) ↪Lakes 10:04, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Didn't say that whippersnapper should be used, I said the opposite. But yeah, Stunner is widely used enough, and common. John Stagikas uses a piggyback stunner for example.
 * ↪Lakes 11:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Aaron Broyles
Actually, the page was not been re-created, the 5-day period on Votes for Deletion is not over yet. --WCFrancis 21:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * In future, if you would please use    instead of   , it's easier on the servers and the links to the discussion work. Incidentally, once a page is deleted through VfD, if it is re-created, it then qualifies for Speedy Deletion. --WCFrancis 22:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Promo photo tag
Hi Paulley. I've noticed you've been uploading some photos using the tag. Some of these images like Image:SuperHeros.jpg are from Obsessed with Wrestling's website and are clearly not promotional photos. In addition, use of the promotional photo tag requires that additional information be provided that explains the rationale for fair use of the image. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:52, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry for incorrectly tagging some images... could you tell me what is the correct tags that should be placed on these images and help me undestand what sort of image constitutes a promophoto. --- Paulley 12:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It's alright. If it's a screenshot, Template:film-screenshot should work, otherwise Template:Non-free fair use in should be good, explaining that the image is used for descriptive purposes - just remember to include the article name after the "|" character while invoking the tag. Happy editing! --Jtalledo (talk) 21:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Fireman's carry powerslam
Why did you remove the Fireman's carry powerslam? I will revert your removal unless I get a proper reason. The Samoan Driver is a very different move. ↪Lakes 19:33, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I reverted and cleaned up Death Valley driver and Samoan Driver.
 * ↪Lakes 19:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Well its seems silly that we have four moves on one page all listed as John Cena's FU it is a fireman's Carry slam variation.... and he did begin to use the samoan driver as the FU but i dont really see where you are getting the powerdlam from --- Paulley 21:45, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Well Cena's F-U hasn't really been consistent. I've never seen him do a Samoan Driver (not surprising, haven't seen that much of him), but have seen him use the Fireman's carry powerslam several times, which seems to be what he currently uses. If he was using the Samoan Driver currently he would have to sit down. It's a powerslam because he lands on his knees and ontop of his opponent, like a front powerslam. seems to be the only photo of him performing the move that I can find.
 * Yeah I was wondering about the naming of the "Samoan Driver." I always thought that it was named after Rikishi. The move he performs is certainly an "over shoulder reverse piledriver". Just wasn't sure what the naming should be. The name comes from a WWE game? The Rikishi/Bam Bam variant certainly should be in the Piledriver page and the other one in the throws page.
 * ↪Lakes 22:02, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

WWWA Site Page
Okay, you keep changing it, I keep changing it. You are also putting yourself in violation of copyright law by posting invalid information from NWA Ohio. ESPN's legal department is now looking into this matter, as Apter & company have made claims to have a TV deal when there was none in place whatsoever. The FTC is currently hunting down Bill Apter as we speak to serve him with papers. Should you claim AGAIN that the link doesn't work the I suggest that you please actually TRY TO USE IT. It is http://www.worldwidewrestlingalliance.com  should you have any question to the actuality of this info I suggest that you please contact the REAL owner of the WWWA, Mr. Dino Sanna. His email address is wwwa2@aol.com or call him directly at 215-362-7184 or contact Mr. Dan Haney, President of Marketing at wwwaref@aol.com or 215-531-8494. They can answer all of the questions surrounding this issue. By the way....in case you didn't notice, the ENTIRE talent roster that you have posted on the page is that of the real WWWA, not NWA Ohio. If you actually research your material, which I personally do not think you do, WHERE did that list come from?? WHY are the fake WWWA's "champions" not on that list?? You have some questions that DO need answered. Why don't you ask Bill Apter himself? His e-mail address is Apter1wrestling@yahoo.com although I doubt that you'll get an answer. No one has for weeks since this all began. WHY has the fake WWA's website been shut down?? Better yet WHY is it hidden at this address http://mywrestlingspace.com/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=87 and hasn't been updated since this legal fight began??

Signed, WWWA Webmaster.....


 * If you have actual information about the dispute, please feel free to post it. However, the edits you have made to the page thus far are considered vandalism, and you haven't backed up your claims with any citations or actual information. Wikipedia is not a forum for airing personal grievances. Also, I don't know how you think there's a copyright issue here, as the article has been written independently by several contributers, not copied from any source. And it's hardly a shill page - there is, in fact, already information about other controversies involving the Dave Nelson version of WWWA. If you want to make actual contributions to the article about this controversy, I'm sure everyone would be happy to have it - provided you do it without vandalism and within Wikipedia guidelines. Jcb9 20:06, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but I do not vandalize, I set the record STRAIGHT. There is only ONE WWWA. NWA Ohio has S-T-O-L-E-N the World Wide Wrestling Alliance name, a name copywritten and trademarked by the Federal Gov't. That is where the copyright issue with the page lies. That alone makes Wikipedia cuplable for allowing false and mis;leading content to be on its website. The facts have been displayed, yet some are just too LAZY to see for themselves. Get it right or take the whole page down altogether!

WWWA Webmaster


 * Names are covered by trademark law, not copyright. And anyway, there's no trademark issue either; providing an informational article which mentions a trademarked name claimed, validly or otherwise, but a certain group, is well within fair use. If you're going to make legal claims, perhaps you should do some research so you know what you're talking about.


 * In any case, even if everything you've said is true, it's still not appropriate for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. And regardless of who's right and who's wrong in your dispute, the fact is, there's an organization out there owned by Dave Nelson that has claimed the name WWWA, and has attracted a lot of notice, most of it negative, under that name. That's notable and worthy of an article.


 * Here's the thing: the legal dispute you're so upset about is also notable and worthy of mention in an article. If you want to include information in the article about it, that's *great* - you just need to do it in accordance with NPOV guidelines, without vandalizing previously submitted information, and with your sources cited. The problem isn't that Wikipedians are against you, have any particular sympathy for Dave Nelson (hell, I'm the one who added information about his lying about ESPN to the article!), or are engaged in a conspiracy to silence you - it's just that Wikipedia is a long-established community with established guidelines for how articles should be written. The NPOV article I linked to above is a good example of these guidelines. If you want to read that and contribute in a civil manner, welcome to Wikipedia. If not, your vandalism of articles will continue to be reverted.


 * (and Paulley, sorry for mucking up your talk page with this...) Jcb9 02:23, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I have tried your link and i know it now leads to a newly created page... i infact took on the page from another anon user after i found a link to it... at that time i found the 3WA website this is what gave me the information to write up on the article since then this issue was brought up this maybe a company which has stolen your name but until it is proven by law then this page stays as is with the info regarding the law suit as far as i am concerned 3WA is innocent until proven guilty Paulley 11:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)


 * oh i also believe Susquehanna Wrestling Organization isnt notable and i may just feel like gettin it deleted --- Paulley

Sky Low Low
Is there an agreement to use real names? I thought most common name was the correct one to use. I ask only for information on this, I don't care one way or the other - good work on the wrestling stuff btw! Trollderella 18:53, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanxs, there is lots of disscussion on that subject and it's something that is raised all the time. In my oppinion redirect cost nothing and most of the time experienced wikipedians place the link to a wrestler article under real names (check Lord Littlebrook's what links here list)

Tag Team Templete
You will be happy to know that I got rid of the duplicate WWE World Tag Team Championship holders on the templete sorry if my spelling is off


 * Ummm o...k.. i didnt personally make the template but im sure who ever did will be glad that you cleared up any duplicate --- Paulley 19:40, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!



 * SWD316 19:03, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

George Wagner, or Gorgeous George
Hi Paulley, just following up on some odd edits by User:164.113.95.209. They appear to be unverified facts. You moved the detail about GG being buried in Graceland. Was that just housekeeping on your part, or is that a fact?--Bookandcoffee 00:26, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
 * It was house keeping, just seemed silly it being in the career section... feel free to check its verification, and do what is needed if the info turns out to be wrong --- Paulley 19:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Championships
If this is what you mean by bolding the promotion:


 * World Wrestling Entertainment
 * 4-Time such and such title
 * 1-Time such and such champion

I would be more than happy to go threw my work so far and do that, good suggestion, it was getting hard for me to read it to! Anything else I can do to help? SWD316 14:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
 * NO problem, keep up the good work yourself! SWD316 15:01, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Vanity
From AFD:
 * Well its not really vanity cus i wrote it and im not that person, but if you are goin to delete it please make sure you you remove the links that direct here --- Paulley 23:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:VAIN for a specific definition used for vanity on Wikipedia. - Mgm|(talk) 09:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

SmackDown! vs. RAW 2006 screenshots
Just to let you know since we've no use for them anymore, I've put up the WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2006 screenshots you uploaded for deletion now. --Oakster 20:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

lol just in case its deleted
For the U.S. Representative from Maine, see Mike Michaud.



Michael Michaud is an American of Lebanese and French-Canadian descent.

For the past 16 years he has been living in West Dorset, where he and his wife, Joy run a small market garden specialising in the production of chilli peppers.

Always on the lookout for the perfect pepper, he obsessively trials anywhere between 20 and 30 varieties a year, writing and giving talks on their diversity and culinary utility to a wide range of professional food bodies. Selected varieties of chillies are also sold through Peppers by Post to customers nation wide and, occasionally, world wide. They are sold between the months of mid-July to early December.

Michael has also been a regular contributor on Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's River Cottage series and at the River Cottage HQ.

==External links and references== *Peppers by Post website *River Cottage homepage

The Heart Throbs/Heartthrobs
Dude What's with deleting the disambig and redirects for the above articles? The Brit band can be known by either spelling - which is why I categorised your article as 'The Heart Throbs (WWE)' with appropriate redirects from a disambiguation...now I find you've undone it all...what gives? Eddie.willers 22:55, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * well first off you cut & pasted the article which is a big NO NO doing this deletes the article history... The Heartthrobs now is disambiguation page the links to the brit rock band while The Heart Throbs is the WWE teams page with your created The Heartthrobs (WWE) redirecting to it... if you will note the names are spelt differently and so the WWE team needs not to be moved to a name which in itself is spelt wrong as Heart Throps is two words not one --- Paulley 12:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)


 * ...All of which makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation & correction. Any chance you could complete the British wrestling scene with an article on Mick McManus? Eddie.willers 16:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * yea sure -- Paulley 18:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

ECWA
May I kindly ask why you deleted the Title Histories on the ECWA page? I just worked two hours on creating them. If it's a formatting issue, I'll be glad to change the format, but please do not delete an entire section without at least letting me know why. --ECWAGuru 16:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * sorry, i didnt delete them i just moved the history on to thier own articles... we were editing at the same time which made it difficult to leave the message with the edit... sorry again and good work on the title histories --- Paulley 16:32, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Scott Levy
Hey, yeah I just added a comment to the list of WWF/E hardcore champions that the list is incomplete. I believe Levy mentioned the 39 times in some interview, there was a credible source I remember that I saw once when the info was first added. I was thinking that the list page doesn't list house show changes or something, considering that the belt had the 24/7-rule for a while it probably changed hands more frequently.

Lakes 13:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find the interview anymore, but his official site seems to list his reigns as 27. . The list also lists the dates, so it should be rather easy to figure out which one is missing from the list of champions. There was a listing in the trivia section claiming he had claimed it to be 39, but since his official site also lists it as 27 I removed that.
 * Lakes 14:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC)