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Tinashe Fazakerley
I am reversing your move of the above musician's article. There's only one artist by this name, and he's currently using the stage name "Rationale". Here's a reliable source that confirms it: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/rationale-interview-ive-carved-my-own-path-and-its-feeling-good-a7124761.html. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 14:24, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

March 2017
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, ±but you recently removed maintenance templates from Wikipedia. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Paultnharris. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
 * instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the request edit template);
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 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or to the website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

thank you for your help, anonymous. I believe I have now supplied enough additional sources and improved the tone of the article to warrant removing the maintenance template from the page. If you still feel that this article does not meet Wikipedia's standards, perhaps you could help me further by telling me specifically what parts of the article do not adhere to the guidelines. You are obviously a very experienced wikipedia editor and I would appreciate your input on this matter. Thank you Paultnharris (talk) 07:48, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

I believe I have addressed all your concerns with this page now, anonymous. Please advise if you do not concur. Paultnharris (talk) 09:00, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I've added a level two warning above, because you removed relevant maintenance templates again without actually addressing the problems. Notability has not been established, via multiple reliable sources that give more than passing mention to the subject. Instead, you've created an article that's about the people he works with and the music they've created. You've also pumped up a few of the source titles--by which I mean falsified them--to include the subject's name, when he was not mentioned in the actual headlines, nor featured prominently in the sources. Along with a related article(s) you've worked on, this has the look of a public relations effort for someone of dubious note, which is why I've also added WP:COI as a concern, which you've not addressed, either. Thanks, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, an association with appears more than coincidental. If you're working together that needs to be explained as well. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Who am I talking to here? Is there a third party who we can draw in to this conversation please? If you work for Wikipedia I would like to talk to your manager please. Your tone is getting fairly aggressive and accusatory, as I can assure you I have not falsified any articles (how would I go about doing that any way?). I did not intentionally 'pump up' the titles (though now I understand what you mean I will change them to reflect the actual titles of the article - that was my not being totally familiar with the way Wikipedia works, nothing more). I did supply what I thought was a valid reason for the removal of the template above, and asked you to tell me what more I can do to make you happy. Furthermore, there might only be what you consider to be 'passing mentions' - but Mark Crew genuinely did the work described therein, is written about on those secondary sources, and has had that success, so therefore he is a notable person in that respect. There are countless articles on Wikipedia about other music producers who have had far less success than Mark - so I do not know why you are singling him out for this unfair treatment. I will happily disclose that I work with Mark, but I have taken utmost care to keep this article neutral and to have it adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines. Mark is a notable music producer, having produced a lot of successful albums (the producers job is to create music with acts - and obviously they are the ones who are written about more), so people are genuinely interested in reading about him. If you feel any word of my article does not adhere to guidelines, I will gladly edit. That you call him someone of 'dubious note' is insulting and aggressive.

Finally, I will be referring you to the arbitration committee, as I do feel that you are being inappropriate and are getting vexatious rather than collaborative, in direct conflict with the ideals of Wikipedia. Thank you Paultnharris (talk) 13:57, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I implore you to take this to arbitration, or any noticeboard for further input and/or administrative assistance, where WP:COI can be discussed further and with greater attention from other editors. But I strongly suggest reading our guidelines first, links to which have been provided above. That the subject 'did the work' is not in question. What hasn't been established is WP:NOTABILITY through WP:RELIABLE sources. In short, I could not find articles or substantial coverage about him. And please remember to note related article Braque (Music Producer) in your report, too. Thanks, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:11, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63]]. Thank you. &mdash; O Fortuna!   Imperatrix mundi.  14:12, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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