User talk:Paytonpace

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Hello, Paytonpace, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Ian and I work with Wiki Education; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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Quinton Lucas
Hey there. I see you're a student editor and I don't wanna rain on a good faith effort over at Quinton Lucas like here. I'm interested in the subject and in KC overall. Wikipedia's criteria as copied here say that you need to cite secondary WP:RS which Mayor Q's own essays are not. They are WP:SELF published sources with no neutrally comprehensive editorial oversight. His essays are a secondary situational source if they are necessary for backing up and flourishing upon a secondary RS as the foundation, such as your KSHB.com source, consecutively in a row. We must write neutral prose WP:NPOVT and can't just promote and reiterate his essay like "the mayor says universally and endemically bad things are bad and wants to do this good thing". This is perfectly generic to every place, somewhat speculative, hasn't even entirely happened yet, and politicians aren't notable for making promises or for doing the perfectly obvious. It would need to be a massively controversial and new issue like the USA PATRIOT Act, to chronicle promises and speculation (WP:CRYSTAL). The content needs to be things that a preponderance of secondary reliable sources all agree is significant and new.

We can't use informal language or slang and we can't address the reader, like "no matter where you live" or "and/or". Ya see what I mean?

I tried several times to mentally do some touch-ups to your edit, but I realized it would require a complete redo. I'd have to read the given sources, find more sources, learn the actual subject which I am not a specialist in, delete half the word count for verbosity, and rewrite it. Yes I am interested in the same end goal, but not at this very moment to that extent, and I don't wanna stomp your project either. So let me know how I can help. — Smuckola(talk) 00:27, 5 December 2022 (UTC)