User talk:Pazzmanmusic

Hi Pazzmanmusic. Thank you for enquiring about the deletion of the article Voltron (drinking game). Wikipedia is not the sum of all information. To deserve a Wikipedia article a subject has to be notable. The guidelines for what is meant by 'notable' are laid down at Notability.

The article referred to contained no indication that the game was in any way notable. In order to show notability you need references, usually media articles, showing how popular it is. You might also want to look at Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. If I am able to provide notable, verifiable, information will that validate the page, and allow for its existance? I do not have a source handy now, but think I have seen one. Will I be able to retrieve the work I did on the page in the future so I can complete it with the guidelines you wrote about? Pazzmanmusic (talk) 16:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC) the previous copied from User talk:DJ Clayworth


 * I'll put a copy of what you wrote in the original place you wrote it in your user space. Remember that you don't only have to show that it exists, but that it is well-known by many people at more than a local level. However there are a few reasons why you probably shouldn't spend much time on it.

Please be aware that Wikipedia has a low tolerance for people making things up and wsting our time trying to claim that they are well-known.
 * Much of what you wrote is clearly fictitious.
 * There are no web references to this game
 * There are plenty of other Voltron drinking games out there
 * If you want to reply to this you can do so by editing this page. I will see it. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

DJ Clayworth, Again, I appreciate the information. I in no way intend to waste anyone's time, including my own. I do not know what the threshold is for well known, but I know that for a fact that ~100 people in more then 5 states know of, and play this game on separate occasions. Would it help if I have persons from AZ/TX/PA/MA corroborate? In keeping with the spirit of the game I made a Chuck Norris joke, and clearly exaggerated in the health section, please do not think that this means a majority (or any) of the other information was fictitious. I can certainly take that down if I re-edit. I also specifically followed format and sources that were used in the Beer Pong page (which resembles a component of this game) to be more compliant with Wikipedia's procedure and style. Also, I do not see how the existence of other games effects this entry. I understand your position however, and will not re-edit the page without adding a verifiable source. But in light of the breadth of persons with knowledge, and a revised serious nature of the post, do you still think that I should not spend much time on it. (which I read to mean, you did not think the page will be allowed). Many thanks. pmm Pazzmanmusic (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)