User talk:Pdfpdf/Old Adelaide Families

This list is both too short and too long; it seems to read as a list of popular brands, rather than "OAFs".

"OAFs" are typically descendants of early settlers, typically protestant, often non-conforming. Most of the families listed are later 19Century or more recent. Examples omitted include:

Tennants (although strictly mid-North) Bagot (lawyers/pastorailsts) McBride Stow (clergy/legal - prolific) Wigg (early industrialists) Cudmore (pastoral/legal) Waite/Morgan Mortlock Davenport Keynes/Jones Bowman Swan Duncan

The following are either not OAF or not even Adelaide:

Murdochs - Melbourne. Sir Keith's father was a Presbyterian minister of no particular note. Way - two generations only; James (father) was a Primitive Methodist; Sir Samuel, Baronet, son, had no legitimate issue. Balfour - not old Wauchope - not old Bonython - arguable because not particularly old, but bulks large because they owned the Advertiser until the 1930s. Sir John Langdon founded the family, he died as recently as 1939. His son Sir John Lavington was Lord Mayor and a businessman; his grandsons include C Warren (conservationist) and H Kym (bon vivant and arts promoter). Hayward - two generations of lawyers isn't a family. Hill - Lance Hill was post WWII. Not "old money". Not related to the political hills (Murray and Robert) Napier - two generations of lawyers, the first educated and trained in Sydney Crawfords - mostly post-war, commercial money (and, against the OAF tradition, strongly pro Labor) Penfolds - business and family based in Adelaide, although the Penfold-Hylands were generous donors to the National Gallery of South Australia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyrmonter71 (talk • contribs) 06:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)