User talk:PeaceNT/Archive 12

Probable speedy-D "image" candidate
Hello - I stumbled on, which is not really an image, but a .pdf document of some text that probably constitutes a speedy delete per WP:BLP candidate. It appears to have been associated with a deleted article of the same name, and created by ; and it also appears to be an attempt to work around the original article deletion by posting the same article text content as an image, which is now orphaned but not fair use. I think it deserves speedy deletion, but it is such an odd thing that I am unsure how it should be categorized as a CSD/ISD. As a BLP violation? As an orphaned image? As a nonsense image? I was going to tag it for xSD/xFD but I could not find one that would really fit. A little more background - the person David Arnott is/was a child actor in the early 90's, who posed in a controversial (approaching child pornography) though brief nude scene as a 12 year old in the movie CrissCross. I think this .pdf image is a "joke" or otherwise inappropriate reference to that nude scene by claiming he is therefore a porn actor, which is wildly inappropriate I think (see also this diff which was quickly reverted). Anyway it probably needs to go away ASAP at least as a BLP issue, since it makes specific claims. I might have done it myself already as an IAR mop-up job, but, oh yeah - no mops for me. --T-dot ( Talk/ contribs ) 06:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahh - nevermind. Been dealt with speedily as hoped.  --T-dot ( Talk/ contribs ) 13:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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User:Knitsua
Hi, I was about to post the following to Administrator intervention against vandalism re User:Knitsua and got an edit conflict with your removal.
 * addendum: I listed the above user as an afterthought when listing user:Zacn138; I actually warned him after the fact - and this was a one-off page-move. Account was actually created long-ago; some sort of sleeper account? Anyway, I have no problem with just passing on action now and if he acts up again, I'll report him again (after a warning, etc). --Jack Merridew 14:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I will keep any eye on this user and see where it goes. Thanks, and sorry for any trouble. --Jack Merridew 14:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: GayNZ.com
Sorry about that. I only examined the page in its most recent shape and didn't notice on the talk page. I won't mind if create the article again but I request you add at least one other source along with it because it almost appeared to be spam when it was deleted. Thanks GizzaDiscuss  &#169; 22:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Vision Thing and the Nobel Prize articles
Nice to see that you're back! Could you please give some advice about how to deal with the following situation:

Vision Thing has also been doing similar things with the Nobel Prize in Economics article and a few other related articles. Suggestions? I've also asked Dekimasu about this but Dekimasu has been kind of involuntarily dragged into this over and over again since closing the aforementioned RFM for the Nobel Prize in Economics article. –panda 04:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) At 17:34, 9 October 2007, Vision Thing reverted 17 edits to the Nobel Prize article (edits made by multiple editors, including me) .  Then he proceeded to reintroduce only some of the changes that were implemented, using wording that he preferred, removing several references and effectively removing the one place where "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" (the official name of the prize in economics) was mentioned in the article.  His rationale was "I reverted your unilateral changes in the introduction. However, I think I've kept all relevant changes made in the meantime. If you see factual errors please correct them or say what they are." (see User talk:Vision Thing). I made changes to several sections of the article and didn't touch the intro text that Vision Thing, Anthon.Eff, Tkynerd and I had been discussing with one minor exception which I already noted in the relevant discussion - Talk:Nobel Prize.
 * 2) Whether intentionally or not, Vision Thing and Anthon.Eff have together managed to remove all mention of "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" (the official name of the prize in economics) from the Nobel Prize article.
 * 3) * From a RFM in Talk:Nobel Prize in Economics, Vision Thing and Anthon.Eff both revealed that they believe the Prize in Economics is a Nobel Prize and have both ignored or discounted any comments that state otherwise. (I and several other editors have stated otherwise.)
 * 4) * Vision Thing changed the intro text of the Nobel Prize article to include the econ prize as a Nobel Prize, despite objections from others.
 * 5) * After a very long and convoluted debate because of Vision Thing's avoidance tactics and stubbornness (see Talk:Nobel Prize), I asked several other editors to comment, and Vision Thing finally suggested a "compromise" text that contained no mention of "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel". The compromise also did not include the econ prize as a Nobel Prize.  Tkynerd was the first to reply and agreed that it was better than the text at that time, and suggested some changes.  Anthon.Eff then agreed to the changes.  I suggested an alternative based on the others' comments.  My suggestion was then essentially drowned out by several replies from Anthon.Eff, who then proceeded to change the intro paragraph claiming it was based on consensus when there was none.  This effectively removed all mention of "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" from the article.
 * 6) * In the 18 edits that Vision Thing reverted, I had added cited text about "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" back into the article. After his reverts and his selective re-addition of intermediary changes, he intentionally left out this text, removing all mention of the prize's official name from the article. (see User talk:Vision Thing)
 * 7) Vision Thing has also reverted previous edits I made to the Nobel Prize article,  and removed references to the Nobel Foundation's website without explanation in the Nobel Prize in Economics article.  (see User talk:Vision Thing) He has replaced references with others that he deemed are more reliable, since the Nobel Foundation's website is, in his opinion, unreliable since it is considered a primary source that must be backed up with a secondary source.
 * 8) Any attempts to discuss with Vision Thing normally end with either no reply, complete avoidance of answering the question, disappearance for a day or two, or unwillingness to compromise (see User talk:Vision Thing, User talk:Vision Thing and Talk:Nobel Prize).
 * 9) Vision Thing has already been warned at least once about page ownership in relation to the Nobel Prize articles.
 * 10) It seems that the text for the Nobel Prize (and Nobel Prize in Economics) article must be approve by Vision Thing otherwise he reverted it.  Vision Thing has been reverting edits to the Nobel Prize article and adding edits to push his POV that the econ prize is a Nobel Prize, regardless of whether or not a statement is cited, for an extended time.  Just to name a few:
 * 11) *12:27, 29 September 2007
 * 12) *21:38, 29 September 2007
 * 13) *20:52, 28 September 2007
 * 14) *13:08, 15 June 2007
 * 15) *20:32, 3 April 2007


 * Thanks for your comments! I've replied on my talk page. –panda 16:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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FL Main page proposal
You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination recently. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual content will resemble the current content at the featured content page. Such output would probably start at the bottom of the main page. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Tagging Brij Kishore Sahni
It wasn't so much that it was non-notable, it's that practically every third word was about how great the guy was, and that's against NPOV. HalfShadow 03:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

David Dineen-Porter
I didn't see that AFD. Thanks for pointing it out, I restored the article. Feel free to send it to AFD again, though, because it does look like it has problems. --Coredesat 03:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like a decent stub to me. Good work. --Coredesat 05:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

User with long foreign name
Tell me, why did you block User:Yaptitasbamasrakaaslatakanka? How is Wikipedia immediately harmed by a user having a long, non-English username?  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  06:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Email
Replied :) Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 07:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Got your message! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 07:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)