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I also noticed that you have been editing articles on Tibetan Buddhism-related topics. You may be interested in joining WikiProject Tibet, a group of editors working to improve coverage of Tibet and Tibetan Buddhism on Wikipedia. Again, welcome! --Gimme danger (talk) 07:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Skandha additions
Hi Peaceful5 - Could you help educate me on the basis for your recent additions to the Skandha article? I'm guessing that we're working perhaps from different traditions. (For instance, among translators with whom I'm familiar, I only recollect &mdash; and my recollections are frequently faulty &mdash; Thanissaro Bhikkhu using "discrimination" for, I think, pañña, but not sañña. "Compositional factors" sounds familiar but I can't rightly place it.)  Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks again for your thoughtful efforts! Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 12:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Larry, I added the translations I'm most familiar with to aid other people who use the same language. I study in a Tibetan Vajrayana tradition. Here are some sources that use this translation. .

In general, discrimination means the ability to discern one thing from another. One definition of the aggregate of discrimination is "a mental factor that functions to apprehend the uncommon signs of an object ... and thereby to distinguish it from other objects" Peaceful5 (talk) 16:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Peaceful - most excellent! Your response is very helpful!  One of these days I plan to provide citations for each of the translations provided on the Skandha page (e.g., as is done on Mettā) and your information is perfect for such.  Thanks again, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 19:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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Kelsang Khyenrab
Peaceful, can you also please supply additional biographical information, please? Actually, regarding all of the 3 deputy directors of NKT to present, there appears to be a paucity of information regarding them - it is still easier to find more information about Neil Elliot than of Kelsang Khyenrab.

Re. Samden Gyatso, I have posted some talk regarding the letter on the discussion page. I am aware that he has been disconnected from the NKT, and for historic reasons, it seems to be very relevant to identify just why that is. Of course, it is probably very relevant to the NKT article, as well as NKTs public image as to why it engages is such radical activity.

Thanks for your considered contributions. (20040302 (talk) 08:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC))

Western Shugden Society
Thank you for your message. I did mean to add a message about my edits on the articles talk page at the time last night. However, it was getting very late here so left it until today! With regard to the advert tag, I added it initially when I began editing it. At that time I hadn't really reckoned on making such big changes to the article. On reflection it does actually read much less like a promotional material for the WSS now and I have therefore removed the tag. The Primary sources tag I have also now removed as I've added a few more third party sources. Thank you and I hope that clarifies if not please let me know. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 18:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. This refers to your edit removing perfectly valid sourced content when you said in your edit summary, "The views of Kundeling Rinpoche are not related to the goals of the WSS." I should point out that the section heading is "Other groups protesting the ban on Dorje Shugden", therefore it is perfectly relevant to mention other groups and other views. Please do not remove it again. In addition, your next edit after that, in which you restored unsourced content that I had removed, stating "Re-introduced statements by outside observers", there has been no third party, secondary sources added to confirm either the Human Rights Lawyer nor the Special Agents comments. Unfortunately, some text added on two videos on what is, a primary source, does not verify what you added. Also the website you added, (http://www.state.gov/m/ds/immunities/c9090.htm) is simply, as I am sure you are aware, the site of the Protective Liaison Division and it makes no mention whatsoever of the WSS. If you add a source it needs to verify the content you are adding. I realise that you are trying your best to improve the article but please bear in mind it needs to be neutral and that sources need to be correct. Please have a read of WP:VER and WP:RS. Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 23:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

WSS Infobox
Further to the change you made with the Infobox, I added the Infobox originally to the article firstly to improve the article itself and I also added the NPO inofobox specifically as that is the one used by similar campaigning groups. The infobox you changed it to is a generic organization one, but again you gave no explanation as to why you changed it. I would have thought that the WSS was a Non-profit organization. Is that not so? Surely it is not a for-profit organization? If not then fair enough but it would help if you would explain! :) Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 23:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining about the Infobox. That makes perfect sense. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 15:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

WSS
I have again amended the content you added. And again I will try and explain for you.
 * With regard to your removal again of perfectly valid content this time with this edit summary, "I really think that this statement by Kundeling Rinpoche is misleading, and it is not clear which of the Chinese' actions he approves of." I have already explained above why the content is valid and requested you not to remove it again. I have therefore again reverted your edit. You might not wish for that content to be on the article, but regardless it is perfectly relevant whether you think it is misleading or not and regardless of what he approves of. Please do not remove it again.
 * With regard to the content talking about a "ban" and your edit summary of "Added two more references establishing that this is a "ban". Don't mean to do overkill on this, but this point is clearly established". Sorry but the point is in no way "clearly established". I have though expanded the content to make th epoint clearer for you from the sources you added. I have though also added, which is only fair, what the Office of Tibet said in May 2008, that it isn't a ban. It is then up to the reader what they wish to believe having read all the sources. My own opinion, for what it is worth, is that it comes across as a ban, but again as I said, it is not "clearly established" at all.
 * Finally with regard to your removal of using the Godwin's Law example with this edit summary, "Please don't trivialize this situation. Perhaps comparisons to Hitler are overused, but the parallel with the identity cards is significant", firstly please do not accuse me of trivialising anything as you are making assumptions on my actions which are unfounded. It is not trivial in the slightest. There was nothing trivial about the holocaust and if the press speaker of WSS wishes to compare the forced wearing of the yellow badge by Jews in 1930s (and 1940s) Germany (it also happened in other European countries where the Nazis were in power) and subsequent execution of millions of Jews, Gypsies etc then it should be noted that it is an example of Godwin's Law, which it is. The parallels as you call them - the forced wearing of the various badges resulted in an estimated six million peoples deaths as instructed by the same people who ordered the badges to be worn. Somehow I doubt that the Dalai Lama or anyone in the Tibetan Go'vt In Exile will be ordering the gassing of people. Please bear that in mind. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 16:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Archive
Can you also archive the Dorje Shugden controversy talk page (everything before September, like you did before)? I looked up the instructions and my eyes glazed over! Emptymountains (talk) 14:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. Peaceful5 (talk) 00:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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If you continue your promotional editing at Dorje Shugden related aticles, you may be blocked for disruptive editing. If you have anything to say in your defence you can reply at WP:ANI Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Please elaborate on "being a practitioner of Dorje Shugden since 1999. I've been active in protesting the Dalai Lama's ban on Dorje Shugden both online and off at various times."
Please elaborate on "being a practitioner of Dorje Shugden since 1999. I've been active in protesting the Dalai Lama's ban on Dorje Shugden both online and off at various times."Heicth (talk) 01:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Dear Heicth, Please elaborate on your original username "tiredOfShugden" Peaceful5 (talk) 11:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Dorjeshugdenfull.jpg
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Possibly unfree File:WSS Philadelphia demonstrators.jpg
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