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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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SS divisional insignia
Howdyado, ya ole dropbear dodger. I'm far too much of a lazy Slav to push this much or do any real research, but I'm still gonna say in good faith: I'm certain you're wrong about the SS thing. Trust my WW2 autism at least as far as to give this a proper look? I remember clearly that "divisional insignia" of non-German Waffen-SS divisions was displayed on the collar. According to this historian's video, and the sources he lists in the description, the Skanderbeg Division's insignia must be... - the fabulous helmet of Skanderbeg present on their collars. In any case, look to uniforms (with the SS specifically their uniform collars), not vehicles, for actual divisional insignia. The double-headed eagle represents nationality, not their division as such. -- Director  ( talk ) 23:28, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No, that’s not right. Waffen-SS insignia was quite complex. There were rules for collar tabs for Germanic and non-Germanic divisions and for Germanic and non-German soldiers within those divisions, including who could wear the SS runes and where on their uniform (some wore them suspended from their pocket). There was a trial 21st SS collar tab with the Skanderbeg helmet, but it was too difficult to discern at any distance, and it was dropped. So they wore a blank black collar tab where they would have worn the divisional collar tab. This is all in the article, and supported by reliable sources. I’m sure your intuition is barking and the reversed contrast rankles with you but the reliably sourced facts don’t support your contention. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:01, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Subs in Adriatic 1941-1945
While looking for Albona naming refs, I stumbled upon this: and thought you might find it useful for other articles. Cheers Tomobe03 (talk) 00:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll have a read. Looks useful. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:00, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Changes
How best to present new proposals for the WikiProject Military history if this proposal is lengthy — to put it all in the talk page or to create a separate page and refer the readers there? Thank you. Oloddin (talk) 02:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd defer to, but perhaps on a separate page and post a link on the main Milhist talk page? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with Peacemaker67. A reasonably brief summary on the main Milhist talk page and a separate page for a lengthy proposal would be a good procedure. Donner60 (talk) 05:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. If I go ahead with it, I'll do like that. Oloddin (talk) 01:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

British Army unit sources Referral
Hello, thank you for your like! I am kind of curious if your Lord Dannatt? If so that would be crazy. On to the main topic I was wonder if you could refer me to some online sources of British Unit that participated in Bosnia between Dec 1995 to Dec 1996. Trying to find theses sources has been quite challenging. Corpusfury (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No, but I worked for him in Bosnia in 95-96 as part of 4th Armd Bde. I don’t usually edit Bosnian War articles much, and I’m not familiar with online sources on IFOR other than NATO daily briefings that were issued during the deployment. Of course I remember our orbat pretty well, but my memory isn’t a reliable source. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay if you look at this sources on table 2 Uk had 1 Tank Battalion and 2 Mechanized Infantry Battalion. Based on my research the tank battalion was the Queen's Royal Hussars and the 2 mech bn were the 2 BN Light Infantry and Royal Regiment of Fusiliers. But I am not sure where were they located and when they arrived and left Bosnia. If you could sheds some on this that would be helpful. ThanksCorpusfury (talk) 23:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * QRH with Challenger 2s, 2LI with Warriors, and 1 RRF then 1 QLR with Saxon. Not sure what the changeover dates were, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright thanks for the insight Corpusfury (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * 32 Armd Engr Regt RE and 26 Regt RA. Cav were LD. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Belgrade offensive
Sorry for making it seem as if I was taking part in an edit war, once I'd reverted to the prior version I was actually editing the infobox to link to Rape during the liberation of Serbia in order to properly link the text to the citations within that page, as it contains a section dedicated to the rapes committed during the offensive. Probably could've made my intentions a bit more clear when I reverted, so my bad on that one. Just gunna edit it now to reintegrate that. CommissarDoggo (talk) 23:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for that, but that is inadequate. The citations to the reliable sources must be on the page you are editing, not another one. WP cannot be used as a reliable source, that is WP:CIRCULAR. Please either cite the rapes on the Belgrade Offensive page, or delete them. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, so that's the funny page people mention when they're talking about circular, sorry for really putting my foot in it on this one. I think I'll definitely have to leave that one in your capable hands, I'm clearly far less qualified on this subject based on your userpage and I couldn't find any decent English references specific to Belgrade (or even references specific to Yugoslavia based on the surprising amount of references relating almost specifically to Germany when searching specifically for Belgrade). I don't speak Serbian, nor Croatian or the amount of Russian necessary to verify the citations I'd be using from that page.
 * I'd be quite open to being hit with a trout for this particular blunder. Again, very sorry. CommissarDoggo (talk) 00:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries. Once I’m back on deck properly and out of hospital I’ll hunt up a ref in the Slavic Review which I’m sure covers it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh god, yeah please don't put yourself out if you're in hospital. I hope you're back on your feet soon. CommissarDoggo (talk) 00:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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TFA
Thank you today for Radoje Pajović, introduced: "Radoje Pajović dedicated his life to studying the history of Montenegro and taught history at what is now the University of Montenegro for forty years. The author of twelve books, and editor of more than twenty, he mainly concentrated on the history of Montenegro during World War II, but in his later years he wrote about earlier periods. He was notable for his resistance to the historical revisionism aimed at the rehabilitation of collaborationist WWII Montenegrin Chetniks like Pavle Đurišić, which became a trend during the 1990s. He first came to my attention when I was developing the Đurišić article over ten years ago. After Pajović died in 2019, I thought that it was time to improve his article."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, Gerda! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:57, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Backlog of ships at TFA
Hi PM, how's it going. I did copyediting for WP:SHIPS for many years, and it's a little distressing to see all the ship FAs that have never made it to TFA. I'm not sure how the backlog of older ship articles got so big, but I'd like to start moving it in the right direction (but no more than one ship ship TFA per month ... I try not to do more than one of anything per month, which is more or less in line with current practice). I see you've got a torpedo boat at WP:TFAP for January 30 ... would that work just as well on its commissioning date, in August of next year? - Dank (push to talk) 21:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * G'day, I'm good thanks. I certainly appreciate the problem. Where is the ship backlog listed? I expect some might need a check for updated sources before running? Maybe that could be prioritised, and I'd be happy to help. T3 (currently slated for August) has recently been updated with new sources, and has been an FA for six years, but I could put T2 there (it was only just recently promoted) and push T3 out to 2025. I have got a triple header ship FT (the Hrabri class and the two subs) slated for April 5, and would like to keep that in the running given none of them have ever run, they have recently been updated, and at least one has been a FA for eight years. Thoughts? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * They're at Featured articles that haven't been on the Main Page ... feel free to recommend one, or I can ask around. T2 has a nice "round figure" (I think that's what we're calling it) anniversary for August (i.e. a multiple of 10 or 25), if that date works for both you and (August is a Gog month). The triple-header in April looks good to me. - Dank (push to talk) 03:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Good thinking ahead PM. I like the idea of that triplet and wouldn't want to jeopardise it. For me, T2 for August and your plan for April would either be all, or nearly all, of the Yugoslav navy ships I would want at TFA next year. Did you have others you wanted to run in 2024? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * G'day . Heh heh... :) Beyond T2 and the Hrabri-class and its two subs (four articles, two TFAs), current Royal Yugoslav Navy FAs that haven't had a run are Yugoslav destroyer Ljubljana (promoted 2020) and Yugoslav cruiser Dalmacija (promoted 2020) (a co-nom with, which I have a new source for but haven't updated yet). Wehwalt just scheduled T1 (first TFA was 2016) for a re-run on 15 December. I also have one class article at FAC now. Of course, there are half-a-dozen (like T3) that ran over five years ago. I've swapped the dates around at WP:TFAP per the above. Let me know if I've misunderstood anything? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Just want to make sure you know that was a serious offer, PM ... if you want to comb through that WP:FANMP link (this one, I mean) and pick out a ship (non-Yugoslav, any nominator) for January and put it on TFAP, that's fine by me. (We tend to prefer multiple-of-10-year or multiple-of-25-year anniversaries, but sometimes there are other reasons to prefer an article over another one.) If not, I'll start putting things together at the end of November. - Dank (push to talk) 18:11, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * G'day, got Japanese aircraft carrier Hiyō to FA in 2019 and it looks to be in great nick. I haven't seen many Japanese ships at TFA recently, and there are a few Japanese ships on the FANMP list. The best date would probably be 20 June 2024 though, which would be the 80th anniversary of the Battle of the Philippine Sea in which she was sunk. I was also wondering if Fusō-class battleship, Japanese battleship Fusō and Japanese battleship Yamashiro (which you were co-nom on, and which are part of the Battleships of Japan FT) could run together on 25 October 2024, as that is the 80th anniversary of the sinking of both ships of the class during the Battle of Surigao Strait. I'll keep looking for a January 2024 candidate... Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 07:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Those are probably OK, but remind me a little closer to those dates so I can look them over. I'll check out my other FAs that haven't yet made an appearance for any significant dates as well.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The backlog is big enough that it's probably more important to get them out there, despite triplets, etc., than to tie them to significant anniversaries.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * A possibility for January 2024 would be 12 January, the commissioning date in 1904 for SMS Prinz Adalbert (1901), which is one of 's. Its class article isn't a FA as yet, but it could run with its sister SMS Friedrich Carl which is an FA and hasn't had a run yet. It might be preferred to wait until the class article makes FA and run them all together, or run them separately, as Friedrich Carl was sunk on 17 November 1914 (110th anniversary next year). Cheers, Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 07:49, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Prinz Adalbert would probably be a good candidate now, since January 2024 would be the 120th anniversary of the commissioning. I can put the class article up for A-class, but I think it's unrealistic to think I could also get it through FAC in time for 12 Jan. (especially since I haven't gone through to update it with Dodson's latest book yet). And I do like the idea of getting Friedrich Carl for the 110th of her sinking as well. Parsecboy (talk) 13:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Hiya, Sturm and Nate. June is Wehwalt's month and November is Gog's ... feel free to add the requests directly to WP:TFAP or to ping them for feedback. For 25 October 2024: I corrected my "no more than one ship per month" above to "no more than one ship TFA per month" ... multiple ships are fine, but 1025 is a pretty brutal character limit, so whatever the plan is, I think what we want to aim for is that just glancing at the blurb tells the reader immediately what we're trying to do. But we can work on that in August. Prinz Adalbert looks good for January, and I've added it to WP:TFAP. There are no other requests for Jan 12 at TFAP and TFAR ... if one pops up, then we'll work on moving the TFAP request I just created over to TFAR and see how voters respond. - Dank (push to talk) 14:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I've put the rest of the above up for TFAP. Will ping the main editors closer to the dates. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:14, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Promotion of Albona-class minelayer

 * Thanks Gog! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:07, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

request to review an interaction
I recently had a rather weird interaction with another editor at Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 8, so I wanted to ask you as someone who knows the topic area to double-check if I'm being overzealous there in expecting that some basic facts about the breakup of Yugoslavia to not be in question. --Joy (talk) 12:02, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Understandable reaction, . It's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. I've commented there. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Bill Madden
Hi, you haven't defined the source for. DuncanHill (talk) 01:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, I'll get there. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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Jozo Tomasevich
FWIW, Firefox gave me a security warning when I clicked on the Stanford Library link. Then, I checked the The Online Archive of California, a service of UC Libraries when it came up in a search for an alternate source. I made the search because I found it curious that Tomasevich donated his papers to Stanford rather than San Francisco State. The OAC page, https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt0870307r/entire_text/, had no information about that. The page noted that the Hoover Library obtained the collection in 2004, which I assume is either a mistake or the year that it was put online. It is of no consequence because I assume the Stanford Libraries know the year they obtained the collection. Interesting article about an interesting and meticulous scholar. Donner60 (talk) 05:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that is much better. The citation was a legacy one, I much prefer the papers source and have replaced the legacy one. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

FA help request
Hello , I would like to request your assistance in getting Thinzar Shunlei Yi to featured article status. This will by my first nomination; I have never done any before. I thought your plethora of experience would make you a great mentor. Thank you very much,  Bremps  ...  00:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * G'day . I'd be very happy to help where I can. I will post some initial guidance once I've had a read through and looked at the sources. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:16, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, have done that on the talk page. Interested in your responses to what I've posted there. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:09, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you today for Ernest Roberts (Australian politician), introduced: "Ernest Roberts was an up-and-coming South Australian state and federal politician who died young. Not my first soldier/politician, I brought Bill Denny and Arthur Blackburn up to FA a few years back, but some extra non-military eyes would be really helpful, especially anyone with experience of reviewing politician bios. Roberts served twice in the Second Boer War with colonial and then Commonwealth mounted troops."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks as always, Gerda! You are a gem! Regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:05, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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Congratulations, and thank you today for Yugoslav torpedo boat T1, introduced (in 2016): "This article is about an Austro-Hungarian 250t-class torpedo boat that saw service in both world wars and in five different navies between 1914 and 1959."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda! My third re-run. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't count, but it might a similar number, Kafka for sure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Mentorship for my FA nom
Hello, PM, I just saw your account nick at FA list of mentors, so I wondered if you are willing, and if you could spare some time, to help me with my nomination of Stjepan Vukčić for FA status. I already finished Copy editing and Peer-review so we would not start from the zero. While waiting for reply I am thanking you in advance.. ౪ Santa ౪ 99°  23:49, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting in touch, I'd very happy to. I'll take a look and post some comments on the talk page as a start point. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:28, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Superb, thank you PM, very much appreciated. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  00:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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new account check please
User:Othmas biaggio came in and in their first edits started censoring a bunch of articles, related to Serbian nationalism. I didn't notice them before and am involved in one case, but I did give them the standard sanctions warnings. Do you recognize this perhaps as repeat business? --Joy (talk) 13:16, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Excuse me? What did I cemsor? Othmas biaggio (talk) 14:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * BTW this is moot now as I brought it to WP:ANI and they got indefinitely blocked by another admin. *sigh* --Joy (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry, have been distracted with Xmas break. It never ends... Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

AFD you should know about
Articles for deletion/Battle for Belgrade —Srnec (talk) 18:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year

 * Thanks ! Happy New Year to you too! Regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Peacemaker67!


Happy New Year! Peacemaker67, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

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TFA
Thank you today for Robert Nimmo, introduced (in 2022): "Robert Nimmo served in WWI as a light horse officer, in WWII commanding several brigades, with the British Commonwealth Occupation Force in Japan commanding the Australian infantry brigade, and then Northern Command back in Australia as a major general. He had virtually reached retirement age when he was picked as the chief military observer with the United Nations Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan, a position he held from 1950 until his death in 1966. He was described as "by far the most successful United Nations observer ever", was the first Australian to command a multinational peacekeeping force, and his command of UNMOGIP remains the longest ever command of a UN mission. This year marks the 75th anniversary of Australia's first involvement in peacekeeping operations, and as a peacekeeper myself I thought I'd bring this one up to scratch as a way of commemorating that milestone."! 

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

[[User talk:Gerda Arendt#2024|Happy New Year

2024]]

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Request move comment
Hi, can you please make a comment so a consensus can be reached at: Talk:History of the Balkans and Talk:Slavic migrations to the Balkans. Miki Filigranski (talk) 13:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Jozo Tomasevich
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Request for a peer review
Hi, belated new year's greetings to you. I have nominated the article Sam Manekshaw for peer review because I have expanded it and want to take it to FAR. I have incorporated the suggestions from the last 2 FARs in 2018. You were a part of the last GAR in 2016 and your comments were noteworthy. I would be much obliged if you would take part in this PR, given your skills in and understanding of military history. Thanks in advance. Matarisvan (talk) 15:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024
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DYK for Bill Madden (soldier)
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Triple Crown

 * Thanks so much, ! Have a great day. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:16, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Have you considered my request for mentorship in FA nom
Hello @Pm67, have you considered my request for mentorship regarding Stjepan Vukčić FA nom? I asked you for it few months ago, and you responded positively but maybe it slipped your mind or having a second thought about it? ౪ Santa ౪ 99°  05:04, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * G'day, I've actually made a start at Talk:Stjepan Vukčić Kosača. Perhaps we might do it in a few grabs? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Great @Peacemaker67, I really appreciate it. I will answer point by point immediately below point line (I will use formatted text for easer reading, inline talk template). ౪ Santa ౪  99°  15:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
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A-class review of Johann Mickl
WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Johann Mickl. Best. Schierbecker (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024
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Timothy Hughes
Hi Peacemaker - I'm just here because a link to a new page I just created led me to your draft of Timothy Hughes (Royal Commission on the Aborigines now being a DAB), which looks pretty good, and I wondered if you were ready to add it to mainspace yet? Also linked to from another article I created the day, Kudnarto, coincidentally. Cheers. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * G'day, almost ready I think. I've been distracted, but I have one more source I wanted to add. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024
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WikiProject Military history/Assessment/John Bullock Clark
This has since been closed, but do you consider the issues you brought up to be satisfactorily addressed? This is going to be FAC-bound later this month if everything is okay and I wanted to make sure that everything is fixed properly before it goes there. Hog Farm Talk 03:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Mentorship proposal
Dear Peacemaked67, I am writing this message after locating your username in the list of encyclopedia editors who are willing to act as mentors in cases of another editor's first nomination of a to-be featured article. I am considering submitting such a nomination for the article on the battle of Meligalas. This article had been written largely by the undersigned in the Greek wikipedia, where it has been given the status of a featured article, and was subsequently translated into English by Cplakidas. I am now thinking I should propose it as a featured article of the English edition of Wikipedia and am wondering whether you would be willing to be involved in providing your guidance, advice and mentorship in order to prepare and process this nomination in the most suitable way. I am writing to you after seeing that the military history of the Balkans has been listed among your areas of interest and speciality. Regardless of your response to my proposal, please accept my thanks for your encyclopedic contributions, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 13:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024
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TFA
Thank you today for Hrabri-class submarine, introduced (in 2022): "The Yugoslav acquisition of this class of two British-made submarines in the late 1920s marked the beginning of the Yugoslav submarine service, something that has been celebrated as recently as 2013 in the Yugoslav successor state of Montenegro. The subs were built using parts assembled for British L-class subs that were cancelled with the end of World War I. They had an uncommon offensive set-up, with six bow-mounted torpedo tubes and two deck guns. When they were acquired, they sported the largest guns in the Yugoslav Royal Navy. One was captured by the Italians during the April 1941 Axis invasion and was quickly scrapped. The other escaped to safety with the British in Egypt, and was used for training purposes until returned to the navy-in-exile towards the end of the war. Transferred to the new navy of post-war socialist Yugoslavia, it served a static classroom until it was disposed of in the mid-50s."! - My story today mentions other weapons ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! I always enjoy your TFA messages! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I like to hear that ;) - Today's went to the author of Appalachian Spring, which I also made my story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Today I see Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Infobox edits
Howdy PM, is this edit similar to this other edit dealing with removing results from infoboxes? Seems in both cases some rules was violated for listing resulting events but it seems typical of any article to list what happens as a result of a conflict. Should the former be undone like the later edit? Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 22:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It has been restored. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It’s still shows the version with the results removed in the infobox from what I can see. OyMosby (talk) 01:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you today for Stanley Price Weir, introduced (in 2015): "This article is about the first commanding officer of the 10th Battalion of the 1st Australian Imperial Force, the first battalion of that force raised wholly from South Australia. He commanded the battalion at the Landing at ANZAC, at the Battles of Pozières and Mouquet Farm, and only requested relief when he was one of the oldest commanding officers of the original Australian force. He was relieved at the age of 50, and returned to South Australia to lead the public service before retiring as a brigadier general." - My story today is about a conductor on the same page, whom you can meet in the video. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
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Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C

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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024
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Serbian Volunteer Corps revertions
Hello, as the note have stated that it needs to be clearly citated, I have citated everything in a book that has the corps badge & a book, everything! Just like the note said. Now for the digital design of the badge, I am pretty sure the license is free & can be used everywhere. I don't really know what i've done wrong i've done & researched everything the note stated before adding an image & the caption. Currings (talk) 23:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * & also I have thought i've made duplicate references to the book & decided to delete already referenced one & wrote it again. Currings (talk) 23:33, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Siebenbürgen vs. Transylvania in the Artur Phleps article
Hi Peacemaker67, the source you cited there was a German one - and, as per WP:GNUE, "when a widely accepted English name, in a modern context, exists for a place, we should use it." Therefore we should use the widely accepted English name for the region (Transylvania) instead of Siebenbürgen. Best, Mentatus (talk) 12:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024
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Russian Air Force galleries
[may have all been dealt with: thank you for all that you do]. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tim Hughes (soldier)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tim Hughes (soldier) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Ykraps -- Ykraps (talk) 19:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Galeb-class minelayer
Ok fair enough as you say it's a matter of editorial opinion if there is a need to link to the class when there is a separate article on the individual ship. Ideally the individual article should have a design and description section which makes linking to the class article redundant, in this case Turbine does but Enrico Cosenz doesn't but don't you think saying "the Turbine-class destroyer Turbine " seems a little clumsy? Generally we don't include a link to the class article when an individual article exists but there is a general exception on Italian ships as until recently only the class article existed so that was the only way for a reader to obtain more information on the individual ship mentioned. I don't see the need for that exception now, would you advocate adding links to the class on all articles - the Bismarck class battleship Bismarck on Last battle of the Bismarck for example? Not important to me so I will leave your reversion as is but I would welcome your comments and possible reconsideration Lyndaship (talk) 08:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * G'day Lyndaship. Actually I don't find linking the ship class and ship clumsy, I find it informative for the reader, otherwise why would I include it? Granted, in the case of a few famous ships such as the Bismarck, the eponymous class of the name ship might be a little redundant, but I would still use "Bismarck-class battleship Tirpitz", because it provides the information that the Tirpitz was the sister ship of the Bismarck and provides a direct link to the class article. Given we have name ships like Bismarck and classes without name ships like the Flower-class corvettes, I see no reason why I shouldn't include it. As for what "we" include or not in ship articles, or what exceptions exist in ship articles in general, that is almost always a matter of opinion. I have now written about thirty FA class and ship articles over a period of twelve years, and I am still regularly told on WP that "we" don't do things a certain way. However, I have found that it is rare for an editor that claims such a practice or exception to be able to point to any meaningful community consensus it exists. It might exist in your editing practice, but that doesn't mean it has to exist in mine. This is not about "ownership" it is about editorial discretion and not fixing things that aren't broken. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:05, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for response. We obviously disagree but I'll leave it be 07:35, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

CroatianAceNDH
Would you consider this a pro-Ustase username? The editor has made some edits that are not obviously disruptive, but the name and topics chosen give me pause. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  13:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * G’day . Using NDH in a user name is akin to putting Fascista or NSDAP in a user name. It is highly problematic IMHO, and probably shouldn’t be permitted under a couple of provisions of WP:DISRUPTNAME, especially as it is likely to provoke/offend Serbs by appearing to glorify the NDH, which murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs through its policies. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tim Hughes (soldier)
The article Tim Hughes (soldier) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tim Hughes (soldier) for comments about the article, and Talk:Tim Hughes (soldier)/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Ykraps -- Ykraps (talk) 06:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

24th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Karstjäger scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 25 August 2024. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Today's featured article/August 2024, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/August 2024. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks, and congratulations on your work! Gog the Mild (talk) 14:38, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Edmund Glaise-Horstenau
the article on Edmund Glaise Horstenau says he was involved in the coup to remove the ustase, yet according to you he wasnt. sources used in his page say he was involved, so why did you remove mention of him? Bird244 (talk) 21:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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