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Speedy deletion declined: Value-Chain Group
Hello Peaceworld111. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Value-Chain Group, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not an unambiguous copyright infringement, or there is other content to save. Thank you.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 03:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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The British Government and Jihad
Dear Peaceworld111, I discovered only when I had already developed the above named article, that it was already there in a stub form. Kindly go through it and feel free to delete/rewrite/add/or improve it by any means. thanks (Dr Muhammad Ali) --Drali1954 (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Salam Sir, you are free to edit. It is clear that you have more knowledge on this subject than I do :).  --Peace world  13:36, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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DRN: Islam template
Discussion regarding the inclusion or exclusion of the Ahmadiyya from the Islam template is now open at Dispute resolution noticeboard. Please answer the questions briefly focusing on logic and, where appropriate, Wikipedia policies. --Bejnar (talk) 19:44, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I am waiting for additional comments, if any, from Wiki id2 before proceeding. Apparently Wiki id2 has not been on Wikipedia since 21:30, 6 May 2014. --Bejnar (talk) 13:32, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok. --Peace world  16:18, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I have A-level exams at the moment. I cannot give the appropriate amount of time to research into the topic as I would like to. Is it possible to maintain the status quo - as in ahmadiyya mentioned until 6 June 2014 once I am free? ( Wiki id2  (talk)  16:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC))
 * Wiki id2, I think its totally unfair after having taken another user on a roller coaster. I requested you to find some reputable but neutral sources which support your viewpoint and if it was the common standard that "Ahmadiyya is a religion", it would take a few google clicks to find them and no advanced searching techniques would be required that could potentially take time. If I had the time I could present over 1000 reputable sources that support my point of view (there are 30 or so here, which discusses them in light of a Muslim sect). As far as postponing the DRN, I do not know what the policy is, something which volunteer User:Bejnar can enlighten us on. Besides, I think User:NickCT has made a very relevant point with regards to WP:BLPCAT that makes the case in my opinion even more trivial. --Peace world  09:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * - My sense is that this issue can be very quickly resolved with a quick test of consensus. I wouldn't wait. I'd just test consensus. NickCT (talk) 12:37, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully so. Peaceworld, I think you've made your point and you know my position, so I'd hang back a while yet and let the process move forwards. Dougweller (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes User:Dougweller I am well aware of your position. I could have requested your opinion but User:Wiki id2 wasn't satisfied of previous discussions so I thought I'd let new users roll in via DRN. --Peace world  18:23, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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Please stop!
For God's sake please stop editing Islam related articles. Especially when it comes to denominations section. Stop adding unsourced material. For example, you added information in Islam in Suriname, saying that most of the country's muslims are Sunnis but a large number are ahmadis. What do you mean by that? Furthermore, on other Islam related articles you add information about ahmadis having book sources which no one can verify. On of these books is "Islam in Nordic" countries. Are you sure that you have read this whole book and find out that a large number of Muslims in Nordic countries are so called ahmadis. Its my humble request to please stop making Islam more "sectarianfied" .Septate (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear User:Septate, i've not claimed that large number of Ahmadis are from Nordic countries. Plus, i don't think its a requirement to read entire books to source the material. You are right that I did not source the material on Islam in Suriname. However, the comment equally applies to much of the article itself. Thanks. --Peace world  15:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Please stop this. I know you are a devout ahmadiyya Muslim and want to propagate its teachings. But all I know is that ahmadiyya movement and deobandi movement in India were part of British divide and conquer policy. If you really love Islam then add information to wikipedia that relates to whole Islam and not just ahmadiyyas. Mirza ghulam Ahmed wanted to reform Islam according to ahmadis. He was against christian missionary activity and compared it with Antichrist. Instead ahmadiyya movement developed into a sect that is just dividing already Muslim majority countries. All I know about ahmadis is that they live mostly in christian majority western countries(Canada,uk) and speak hatred for other Muslim countries(pakistan, malaysia). Is this a great Islamic reform movement.Septate (talk) 16:10, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, this is going a bit-off, but I should mention that for clarification that none of the above claims are true. Maybe, dear User:Septate, you should probably learn about Ahmadiyya from the right sources, like a Wikipedian, not hate sites like this 1, which you probably visited per claims above. You cannot tell other's to essentially 'back-off'. Would you stop editing Islam-related articles?  --Peace world  16:24, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. Dear fellow. Please make contribution to wikipedia that are in favour for whole Islamic religion. I hope you will understand.Septate (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Wahhabi movement
Please take Wahhabi movement under your watchlist because it has been vandalised by anonymous users and no one seems to care.Septate (talk) 04:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear user:septate, ok, if you think that the page is getting vandalised a bit too much, the best thing to do would be to request temporary semi-protection, at WP:RPP. --Peace world  08:22, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We don't need semi protection. I just asked you because you are on wikipedia almost everyday. I am just tired of guarding this page and I am busy too. Just take this page under your consideration and revert any pro-wahabi edits made by usersSeptate (talk) 10:41, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ok, user:septate got it. --Peace world  11:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear fellow, can you please tell me how to make my username name look coloured. Your name consists of two words. Peace is written green and world is written as blue. Thanks.Septate (talk) 12:00, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Go to 'preferences', then on the 'user profile' tab you should see the 'signature' section, which you can edit. You can see my code for the color. @ user:septate  --Peace world  12:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I am unable to open 'preferences' because I am mobile user. I will do it later when I will open it on laptop.Septate (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Sunni statistics
Hey peace world, please do not revert my edits regarding statistics about Sunnis Islam. I will give you complete explanation for this later.Septate (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Explanation
You stated that only 27% of Cameroon's Muslims are Sunni, and vast majority are non-denominatinal. The source you cited comes from pew research centre.

The following pew research centre article states that 87% of world's Muslims are Sunni. It does not even mention the term 'non-denominational' in these statistics. Where are those millions of non-denominational Muslims according to same pew research centre? If theses non-denominational Muslims are included then they even outnumber Shias. The reason is simple, the pew research centre realizes that most of these non-donominational Muslims are mainly Sunnis, who simply identified themselves as Muslims. I hope you would understand without raising unnecessary arguments. Thanks.Septate (talk) 08:20, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * user:septate It is probably true that the beliefs of the majority of the non-denominational Muslims are Sunni, however, it would still be correct to say "27% of the Muslims identify themselves as Sunni". I don't think we should use the overall statistic of 87% of the world's Sunni Muslims and generalize this to every country of the world. It probably makes sense to state separately, as a form of clarification, that the majority of the non-denominational Muslims hold Sunni beliefs, but for that you would need to find a source, since it could well be the case that many of the non-denominational Muslims in a particular country hold Shia beliefs, for example.  --Peace world  09:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Please stop making irrelevet claims. First of all, every one knows that shia Islam is almost non-existant in west Africa. In Congo they make 10% of Muslim population. For your satistisfaction let's suppose that half of shias identified as non-denomenational (that's too much). This makes up 10% of total Muslim population. Now let's do some math.10%+10% shia=20%+6% ahmadis +4% other bunch of sects=30%. Sunni Muslim =100%-30%=70%. Looks overwhelmingly Sunni Muslim to me!

The same pew research centre source states that 56% of Indonesian muslims are nondenominational. But the following article of the same pew research centre states that 99% indonesians are Sunnis. One article of pew research contadicts its other article. Is pew research gone mad or trying to divide Muslims artificially or to destroy their unity.Septate (talk) 13:38, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Look user:septate, I am only helping you here. I am pretty sure myself that the non-denominational Muslims in general hold Sunni beliefs. A sample paragraph could be "x identify themselves as Sunni of the Maliki school of Jurisprudence, y as Shia, z as Ahmadiyya. An additional n prefer to identify themselves as non-denominational, although in general they follow the Maliki school in Sunni Islam". I am only saying that a source would help the case. --Peace world  18:03, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Source only helps those who belong to minority sects who want see Sunnis as a minority and try different methods to lower their share of population. But for me the point is clear, Sunnis are the vast majority and they need to be mentioned. I assure you that I will neither remove shias nor ahmadiyyas from the text.Septate (talk) 02:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear user:septate, irrespective of what I am saying or what you are saying, I see no reason to remove the statistical data. If you are so adamant on calling Sunni's majority, fine, but please do not remove the details, at least of those belonging to the minorities.  --Peace world  09:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have already stated that I will neither remove shia or ahmadiyya if they are mentioned in the source.Septate (talk) 05:43, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring on Turkey
You have been edit warring on Turkey, the only reason you haven't been blocked this time is because you weren't warned and you don't have a previous block for edit warring. In the future it would be better to revert once then ask the user to come to the talk page and discuss the issue. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:17, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear User:Callanecc, thanks for reminding me. The reverts were over several days, so I didn't think it was so necessary.  --Peace world  09:05, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Stop!
Enough is enough. I have just lost my temper. Stop reverting my edits with your stupid edit summaries. You are here only to popularize ahmadiyya movement. I have been constantly ignoring all this and wasting my time explaining my edits to your irrelevant arguments. No one can deny the fact that ahmadis are less 1% of muslims and they have no comparison with Sunni Islam, which is the largest religious denomination in the world (with adherents greater then catholics). Every article which is read related to Islam by country has more information related to ahmadis then to Sunnis. Sunnis and shias are being marginalized and a negligible minority is being given too much importance. This is clearly bias. You are giving too much popularity to this movement. Firstly you add unsourced content and if some one removes it you just give a book source or some other stupid source to prove it. I previously assured you that I will not remove any sourced material regarding ahmadis. I just wanted to improve coverage of Sunni Islam. Sunni Islam is the traditional religion of Bosniaks, its the part of their culture. I am also bosniak (but I don't live in Bosnia). And I have never seen an Ahmadi Bosniak. I am not denying that there are no ahmadi bosniaks but they are negligible. But when I read the article Islam in Bosnia, I was just shocked to see how much misinformation you are spreading on wikipedia. Having an ahmadi mosque in a country does not mean Ahmadis are also present in large numbers. You just mold a simple source to prove your point of view. This is my last warning to you. If you again reverted my edits, gave toooooooo much! importance to ahmadis or showed your bias regarding Sunnis or shias, I will quickly inform the administrator. If you have any concern regarding my edits then leave a message on my page without making any reverts.Septate (talk) 04:00, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Believe me or not, I have always considered you as my brother. I was just planing to give you 'Happy Ramadhan in advance' but seeing your reverts made me upset. If you really love Ahmadiyya Islam then you should love Islam also. Look at article Islam, it is being vandalized constantly but you are always busy in promoting ahmadiyya movement through various means. Edit wikipedia from Islamic perspective, not from Ahmadi Muslim perspective. You are Muslim first and the rest doesnot matter.Septate (talk) 04:18, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear User:Septate, you are more than welcome to inform an admin. But just to paint the picture, firstly you have not been ignoring my edits at all, you have particularly attempted to censor data on minorities such as here 1. There are many more examples. secondly You claim that I am marginalizing 'Sunni and Shia', but it is clear that you have censored data on Shias. Not me. Thirdly, the Ahmadiyya movement are highly under-represented. To put it into perspective, faith groups that are of similar size to the Ahmadiyya movement (or smaller) such as Sikhism, Judaism and Bahais faith are far more 'popular'. Fourthly, I would love to devote my time to Islam in general, but situation like this makes it a little harder. It should be me losing my temper. Happy Ramadhan. --Peace world  19:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Ahmadiyya views on homosexuality
Dear fellow, can you please provide me little bit information regarding ahmadiyya views on homosexuality. Do ahmadis believe that gays will go to hell? What should they do? As a gay, I am extremely serious about this topic. For me, homosexuality is a mental illness with no cure.Septate (talk) 14:25, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @User:Septate Wikipedia, is not a place to ask enquire about faiths. Since this a one-off here is a footage from MTA International. --Peace world  18:39, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Hi, Peaceworld111. Just to let you know that I'm going to have to reformat my computer after reviving it over a few days of troubleshooting. I'll try to check in on the "Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina" article and talk page as I'm going, but it means that it'll be another couple of days before I can work on Wikipedia on a regular basis again.

In the meantime, please try and hold down the fort. Ping me just as a reminder if the two users changing the content aren't amenable to a reasonable compromise. Unfortunately, I envisage things escalating to an AN/I (I don't think a DR/N is actually applicable in this instance). Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:18, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear User:Iryna Harpy, I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank you for your input over that page. Quite coincidentally, I will too be unavailable as I shall be travelling for the next four days. Again, thank you for your input!  --Peace world  09:18, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Ahmadi
Dear fellow, you always claim that there are 20 million ahmadis around world but following respected source states that there are less then 8 million ahmadis. Can you explain this.
 * That is 2001 source and out-dated. Besides, this source only gives total Muslim population of under 1.2billion and we  know from other sources that it is 400million greater. --Peace  world  16:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Ramadhan
I am really sad that you have not wished me happy Ramadhan yet.Septate (talk) 04:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Your deceptive edits

 * Your deceptive edits have been caught. A user has pointed out that the book source you added for ahmadis on Religion in Russia is talking about Azerbaijan not ahmadis. You are a big liar. I will remove all your book sources if they are not verified.Thanks.Septate (talk) 05:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Given your edit history, you should not be lecturing anyone else about "deceptive edits". More edits like this and you can explain your harassment at WP:ANI. --Neil N  talk to me 17:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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Ahmadiyya Caliphate
Hi If you believe that the Ahmadiyya Caliphate established (after the passing away of the community's founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) is the re-establishment of the Rashidun Caliphate; and as you well know it is a belief that no Muslim accepts, therefore the researcher/reader about Islamic topics has the right to know why that Ahmadiyya belief (about the re-establishment of the Rashidun Caliphate) is unacceptable to the Muslim majority (assuming that the Ahmadiyya can still be considered a minority Muslim sect). It's simply a matter of logic. I hope you understand. I have no axes to grind against the Ahmadiyya. In fact I think it would have been better for the Ahmadiyya not to have mentioned anything about their Caliphate which makes no sense because it is against the belief of a billion plus Muslims as opposed to your 10 million(?) Ahmadiyyas worldwide. :) Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 04:48, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * And you cannot interpret primary sources on your own. You must provide secondary sources for your assertions. --Neil N  talk to me 05:12, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Please visit the link below which describes the Dispute posted by me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Caliph Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

AHMADIYYA JAMAATHU is not a muslim jamaathu, but it was anon muslim organisation . plz see the page
What is you do ? you have no right to delete my pageSALAMMK (talk) 07:35, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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Islam in Karachi
Ahmadiyya are mentioned in that page !!! Your goal is to add info about Ahmadis in each and every page in Wikipedia. Delljvc (talk) 18:33, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear Delljvc, irrespective of what my goal is, it is unconstructive to blank details concerning Ahmadi Muslims or by placing them separately. --Peace world  19:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You are the one that is separating Ahmadis since you add info specifically about Ahmadis in Wikipedia. Delljvc (talk) 19:54, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delljvc No. I placed them in line with other Islamic sects. --Peace world  19:56, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Nearly all your edits in Wikipedia is about Ahmadis. You have demonstrated that Ahmadis are different from Muslims. I am sure there are professional wikipedia editors. Delljvc (talk) 20:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)