User talk:Peacockpeacock

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Hi Peacockpeacock,

My apologies for not adding the Welcome template above to your talkpage earlier; I should have done it the first time I left you a message. I hope you haven't been too put off by the sudden influx of policy pointers and blocks on this page; if I'd given you the above links earlier perhaps it could all have been avoided.

The Fashion in Film Festival page is now well-sourced and looks to be an excellent addition to the encyclopedia (despite my earlier misgivings!), and the discussion at Articles for deletion suggests that the content of Fashion in Film may well be merged to the Festival article soon. The result will be a nice, good-looking, well-referenced addition to Wikipedia, and it couldn't have been done without you! Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 15:28, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Multiple accounts
Hello Peacockpeacock and welcome to Wikipedia. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please remember to disclose these connections.

Proposed deletion of Fashion in Film Festival


The article Fashion in Film Festival has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable festival. Only sources found are press releases (eg. ), blog entries (eg. ) or the organiser's own website . No independent sources to confirm notability per the guidelines.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 11:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Potential conflict of interest
Hello Peacockpeacock. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Fashion in Film, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Just as an aside, if you are related to the organization or the original editor in any way it's best if you are honest about it. While I personally don't recommend it (too easy to get caught up in editing and see notability where it may or may not be), it isn't against the rules to create or edit an article about something you are personally involved in. Hiding your involvement can look very bad, however, especially if someone else finds out, so I just wanted to drop this note about everything. If you're not, then that's good too- just that there's been some questions about whether or not you're affiliated with Fashion in Film or the other editor that created the article.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Reliable sources
Just another note! I wanted to let you know what can and cannot be used as a reliable source to show notability. Unfortunately none of the links that are on the page can be used as a reliable source that shows notability. The reasons behind this is that the first link just goes to a staff page for Marketa Uhlirova and since it's put out by the college that hosts and puts on the festival, it's seen as a primary source. Primary sources cannot be used as reliable sources unless there's multiple secondary sources that can back up these claims. Secondary sources would be something along the lines of a reliable paper, news station, or notable person doing an in-depth article on the festival.

This brings me to the problems with the other links. Two of them merely state dates that the festival takes place on, which cannot be used as a reliable source. Brief mentions and announcement of meetings or dates do not show notability and cannot be used. The interview link (this one here ) is not what Wikipedia considers to be a reliable source, and at most could only be used as a trivial source, meaning that it cannot show notability. The reason behind this is that the site just isn't considered to be notable or reliable enough, and seems to be more of a blog than anything else.

I recommend utilizing Reliable sources/Noticeboard to see if any other sources you find are usable for reliable sources since you appear to be new to Wikipedia. It's an invaluable resource. I also recommend looking into getting assistance from WikiProject Fashion or potentially joining its forces, as they might be able to help find sources that can be used. (No guarantees, but they'll know places to look.)Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)Tokyogirl79
 * Another thing I forgot to mention!! Blogs cannot be used as sources unless they're by someone who is considered to be an absolute expert on the subject matter, meaning that they have to be considered someone notable and reliable as a source. The vast majority of blogs do not meet this criteria, which is why I'm removing the blog post as a source.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Hiya!
It's no biggie that you're the same user- I just wanted to make sure. I don't really think that you're doing this for advertising purposes, I just wanted to warn you that it can get kind of rough if people think there's a conflict of interest.

In any case, I've found a few sources and added them to the article, including one that the nominator found themselves. I did remove a lot of sources, mostly because they were either listings that only displayed the meeting times or because they could be considered primary sources. It can get pretty frustrating at times, trying to figure out what can be considered a reliable source, so absolutely feel free to ask if you have any questions. It took me a long time to figure out what can or can't be used, so I remember what it was like trying to add things, only for people to remove them later. Hopefully this will be able to get kept.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 12:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Hm... I think I'd just put it on your user page. You don't have to give your real name, but just say something like "I'm a huge fan of fashion and I'm a contributor to the Fashion in Film Festival by way of (whatever your contribution to the actual festival is, such as coordination, etc) and previously User:FashioninFilm." Then you could state what you want to accomplish here on Wikipedia (expanding the FIF article, improving fashion articles in general, etc) and stuff you generally like. This way it's visible but you don't have to make a huge statement about any of it on the talk pages.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 14:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79

January 2012
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Fashion in Film has been reverted. Your edit here to Fashion in Film was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://twitter.com/fashionfilmfest/) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, fansite, or similar site (see 'Links to avoid', #11), then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest). If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 12:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page Fashion in Film Festival do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used as a platform for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Your edit here to Fashion in Film Festival was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links in references which are discouraged per our reliable sources guideline. The reference(s) you added or changed (http://www.anothermag.com/current/view/655/Fashion_in_Film) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 12:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Pictures?
Hey, I was just wondering- do you know if anyone has any pictures that we can use for the article? They'd have to be something that's fair use, but they'd look great with the article!Tokyogirl79 (talk) 14:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79