User talk:Peak Debt

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Peak Debt! I am Elektrik Shoos and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. Thank you for your contributions. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!  elektrik SHOOS  01:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
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September 2010
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Nomination of Peak debt for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Peak debt is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 17:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Cryptocurrency related pages are under special measures
MER-C 15:27, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Skycoin (June 16)
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Legacypac (talk) 02:13, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Skycoin


A tag has been placed on Draft:Skycoin, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Hi, thanks for message. You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~. Please note that a community decision has authorised the use of general sanctions for pages related to the blockchain and cryptocurrencies. The details of these sanctions are described here. All pages that are broadly related to these topics are subject to a one revert per twenty-four hours restriction, as described here. You continue to edit in this area at your own risk, since you have now received the mandatory warning. I note now if you saw the reviewer's comment Yet another crypto spammer I deleted your article because
 * it did not provide adequate independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management. Much of your text was unreferenced or sources to low-quality sites, not credible independent third-party sources
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 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced or self-sourced claims presented as fact include, from just one paragraph ''Skycoin's developers believe Skycoin resolves these problems and fulfills Satoshi's vision as a true distributed blockchain platform and peer-to-peer electronic cash system. Skycoin achieves this by making the following improvements: Elimination of the tendency towards mining centralization through a new consensus algorithm that separates coin creation from consensus Free transactions and a theoretically infinite number of transactions per second through parallel blockchains Implementation of an inflationary parallel currency called Coin Hours to encourage spending rather than hoarding The elimination of dependence on Internet Service Providers (once Skywire has been fully deployed).
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The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or should be deleted as well. See other stuff exists. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter, and before the imposition of general sanctions on all blockchains and cryptocurrencies.

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Hi Jim, thanks for your response. Some of the sources I included were Reuters, Nasdaq, CNBC, Bloomberg, Forbes and the United Nations. Do these not count as significant, independent, multiple, reliable, and secondary? I have read through all the Wikipedia guidelines and I cannot understand why these sources were insufficient to demonstrate notability.

Also, I understand the rule about 'one edit per 24 hours' is mainly to prevent 'warring' but in this case I am the only person working on this page, and in order to build the page I need to edit it. There is no warring or controversy regarding the edits because the page is a draft and nobody else is working on it.

I don't think it's reasonable for an admin to accuse me of being a 'spammer' just because I create a page about a cryptocurrency. I tried to make the page as objective as possible, and I would like to continue to work on the page until it meets Wikipedia's standards. Could you please restore the draft so that I can continue to improve it?

I don't believe the page was particularly promotional. It just presented the features of the cryptocurrency, and it also included some criticisms. It was more objective that most of the cryptocurrency pages on Wikipedia.

There are no URL links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links".

I would welcome your input and suggestions as to what I need to do to make it less promotional in your view. Do I need to remove all the advantages and concentrate only on the criticisms on the project?

Also, I confirm that I do not have a conflict of interest. I am not being paid to write the article and I don't work for Skycoin or on behalf of Skycoin. It just happens to be a cyptocurrency that I find interesting, and I noticed that it doesn't have a Wikipedia page yet (40 other cryptocurrencies do have Wikipedia pages).

Cheers, PD. Peak Debt (talk) 08:54, 16 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I think it needs more on what makes it notable, as defined in the link, rather than just what it's claimed to do. I've put the citation needed tags because anything related to a commercial entity is going to have to be squeaky clean. As you will appreciate, companies use staff or other paid editors to try to promote their products here all the time, so your article needs to be pure as the driven snow to be acceptable.


 * It's one revert a day, not one edit. The reason for the general sanctions isn't attempted spamming, which happens all the time, it's the tendency of these to become battleground articles, and makes it easier for admins to do whatever needs to be done. Basically, if someone made an edit you didn't like and any sign of an edit war started, you could both be blocked. Have a look at the discussion if you haven't done so Jimfbleak - talk to me?  05:47, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Jim, I have added quite a few more references and updated the page, so hopefully it looks better now. Would you mind reviewing it again before I resubmit and let me know if it looks OK? Cheers! PD. Peak Debt (talk) 06:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

More
The lead should be unheaded and summarise the article as a whole. It's inadvisable to use Skycoin's own website as a source, YouTube isn't normally acceptable, and although Reuters can be, the Democratizing The Internet link at least is a press release from Skycoin, as is made clear, not independent content. Investopedia isn't an independent third party source. The controversy bit helps make it less promotional. If I were you, I'd worry less about the "how it works" stuff and more on bits like the UN that might give it more credibity. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:19, 17 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Jim, I have made the changes you suggested, added more references, and resubmitted for approval. Thanks for your guidance so far. Cheers, PD. Peak Debt (talk) 22:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The formatting is much better than before, I'm not an expert on the content, so nothing to say on that other than it's not blatantly promotional. Some of your sources are good, like MIT, some of the others less so, although I guess that in this area to some extent you have to use what you can find. Can you find anything on the UN's own website that confirms what you have said, that would improve credibility? I guess you are just going to have to submit and see Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:29, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Skycoin (August 6)
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Catrìona (talk) 15:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Catriona,

Regarding your rejection of the Skycoin page, I'd like to better understand your comment below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Skycoin

"should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject"

The page does refer to a wide range of independent, reliable, published sources including Forbes, Reuters, The United Nations, CNBC, Bloomberg, Nasdaq, MIT and the BBC.

There is only one single link to material produced by the creator of the subject, and this link is simply a technical description.

Also, I don't believe the article reads like an advertisement since it is written from a neutral point of view and includes several criticisms of the subject.

Could you provide some more information on how you arrived at your decision? How many more independent/reliable/published references would be needed in addition to the 32 already provided? If I simply remove the one link to the material produced by the creator of the subject, will that be sufficient?

Thanks!

PD. Peak Debt (talk) 10:27, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest disclosure and paid editing
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Hi Catrìona, thanks, yes I am aware of all that. I don't have a conflict of interest and I am not being paid to write anything on Wikipedia. Peak Debt (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Skycoin (August 14)
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CNMall41 (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Skycoin has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Skycoin. Thanks! CNMall41 (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Skycoin (October 10)
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Legacypac (talk) 04:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Skycoin (October 11)
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&mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 12:01, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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Nomination of Skycoin for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Skycoin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Skycoin until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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November 2018
Hello Peak Debt,

Please consider this a formal warning: You are violating your cryptocurrency topic ban when you comment on a cryptocurrency Articles for Deletion debate. As long as your topic ban is in effect, you cannot discuss cryptocurrencies anywhere on Wikipedia. You may be blocked if you continue. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  03:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * So I can still contribute to the AFD page, as long as I don't talk about cryptocurrencies?


 * When the page I created was proposed for deletion, I was told that I was welcome to contribute to the deletion discussion:


 * QUOTE "until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion".


 * Now I'm being told I can't contribute to a discussion about the deletion of the page I created? This is contradictory and goes against Wikipedia policy.


 * In any case, I should not have been topic banned in the first place. Topic bans are supposed to be a response to disruptive behaviour and edit wars, which I was not engaged in.


 * I was topic banned, without warning, for allegedly using "unreliable sources" even though those same sources had previously been approved by the administrator who approved the page for creation. This is not a valid reason for a topic ban.


 * There appears to be a coordinated agenda here, to propose the page for deletion and then silence me so I can't oppose that deletion, even though Wikipedia policy states that I am welcome to contribute to the deletion discussion. Peak Debt (talk) 03:38, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That page is about cryptocurrencies so you cannot participate there until your topic ban is lifted. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  04:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Peak Debt, since you seem unfamiliar with topic bans, allow me to answer your questions and make a few comments.


 * 1) You may not edit anything that you are topic banned from. That includes the article itself, the article talk page or any associated discussions concerning the topic. You are also prohibited from discussing the topic, opening any discussions on the topic or contributing to the topic in any space. So to answer your first question. No, you may not contribute to the AFD because the AFD itself is about a cryptocurrency/block chain topic.
 * 2) With reference to this page, WP:GS/Crypto, a discussion was held where the consensus was that administrators were granted the discretion to unilaterally impose sanctions on editors who have been deemed to be disruptive in any space where the topic under discussion is clearly within the sphere of cryptocurrency or blockchain technology. Up to the point that you were topic banned, you were certainly allowed to contribute to that page, but an administrator has topic banned you. This topic ban carries with it the authority of the community as is laid down in the link above.
 * 3) There is no coordinated agenda. Mer-C, as an uninvolved administrator, was also acting within policy. --Blackmane (talk) 04:17, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I did nothing disruptive. Ironically, any 'disruption' has been caused by the unfair banning. Topic banning is not an appropriate response when an administrator believes sources are unreliable, especially when those same sources were previously approved by another administrator. Peak Debt (talk) 04:41, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

The editor who accepted the page is not an Admin, and now supports deletion of the page. It was a bad accept. Now please stop. Legacypac (talk) 08:01, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Blocked
You have now been blocked for repeated topic ban violations. I've kept it very short at just 24 hours, but you need to know that further violations after this block expires will almost certainly result in longer blocks. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:17, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Per the consensus at the administrators' noticeboard your block has been extended to indefinite. Should you decide to appeal your block, please read the guide to appealing blocks first. 28bytes (talk) 12:33, 7 November 2018 (UTC)