User talk:Pedro/Archive 28

Glass Pinata
May I ask why Glass Pinata was deleted? This is actually a legit band w/ many aspects to prove it. Including press and publications. Thanks12.52.196.254 (talk) 23:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)Matt

If Glass Piñata is going to be deleted, go ahead and delete the redirect page Glass Pinata too. Mac Davis (talk) 16:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Pedro's probably offline, deleted per WP:CSD.  Cheers,  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Rollback abuse
I agree with your comments for declining rollback for User:Hkansagra. However, I was looking at his allegations against User:Tedmund, and it does seem that this user is abusing rollback, e.g.. I'm inclined to remove rollback from this user, but would like a second opinion first. (It does not seem to be edit warring, just reversion of good faith edits). Incidentally, is there any page for proposing/discussing cases of rollback abuse? —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 15:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Tiring out? You seem less active than in the past. What's up? —Giggy 02:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just had lots of RL commitments mate. Likely to be ongoing for another few days and then I'll hopefully be back up to speed. Pedro : Chat  07:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU, Status, and you!
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 * Hmm. Highly active is not exactly me at the moment :( Pedro : Chat  14:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Adopt a user sysop
Hi Pedro...

I'm a sysop on portuguese wikipedia... but I want to help more, here in the en.wiki. I know the Policies and guidelines and the Manual of Style of the portuguese wikipedia. I like'd to combat the vandalism here (like i do there), but don't know how you do that here. You cam help me?

Béria Lima Msg 13:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course, I'd be only too happy to. Generally most activity focusses on Recent Change patrol. The main tools available are undo and non administrator roll back - which you will be familiar with from pt.wiki. Also WP:HUGGLE is a seriously powerful tool in dealing with poor edits. How would you like me to assist (apologies BTW, I don't speak Spanish or Portugese despite my username!) Pedro : Chat  14:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Heh
I just read (and thoroughly enjoyed) your /Nutshell 2 page.

I liked it so much, I made a modified "This page in a nutshell" thingy. If you're interested, it's at User:J.delanoy/sandbox.

If you use it, cool. If you don't, I won't be offended.

Cya 'round teh Wiki!

Cheers! J.delanoy gabs adds 01:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The expansion of WP:PEDRO
Hi Pedro, just a note to let you know that I've found another person to assimilate into ask to join WP:PEDRO,. :) How have you been? Acalamari 20:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Facepalm. Giggy : Chat  14:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * (Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery!) Another of my army of sock-puppets discovered; I just wish I knew what gave them away...... I've been almost utterly inactive on WP for two weeks due to real life workload. Hopefully this is now coming to an end and by the middle of next week I should be back up to speed. Pedro : Chat  06:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Heads Up
There's an ani thread about Chemistrygeek and his ip block exempt flag. Just telling you since you gave it to him. -- Chris  09:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for having the courtesy to advise me. I've commented. Cheers Chris. Pedro : Chat  14:06, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Chemistrygeek
Crossposting to Nancy, this ANI thread, this talkpage, and this talkpage are all related, and will probably be of interest to you. Keeper |  76  |  what's in a name?  15:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Rollback?
Is there any chance I could be provided the rollback feature? It would really help me out during my attempts to cut down vandalism. Thanks! Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs  •  critique) 17:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Pedro's still a bit busy IRL, and as an official sockpuppet er, stalker of his, I snuck thru your edit history/contribs and granted rollback.  Enjoy the tool, remembering of course it is only for vandalism.  Cheers,  Keeper  |  76  |  what's in a name?  17:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks-thanks! Sorry, though, I can't drink; I'm underage. :) Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 18:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just so long as you're older than 12 ... ;-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ta!. Pedro : Chat  20:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Good nigth
Hi Pedro...

The template Birth date and age is protect for vandalism. But the template don't have the pt.wiki interwiki. Cam you put that for me? the interwiki is pt:Predefinição:Dni. Thanks! Béria Lima Msg 00:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Any talk page stalkers know of the top of their head if this is a simple as just adding the link in a single []? Save me digging out how to find how you do it? Pedro : Chat  09:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. The interwiki links are transcluded through the template documentation - does the trick. I should also point out that non-admins can still add that - the template itself may be protected but the documentation isn't. WilliamH (talk) 12:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Is just a dble bracket on the doc page then. Good, now I know. Thanks for fixiing that WilliamH. Pedro : Chat  12:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

London
Now the actual reason why I came to your talk page - I noticed you had to pull out of Sunday's London meet. Are you interested in coming to the next one? Assuming the precedent is the second Sunday of the month then it will be August 10th for your information. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 12:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Will. It just seems every darn time somthing crops up. The answer is, hopefully. However User:WifeOfPedro may well end up giving me a reason why I can't. So provisionally yes! Pedro : Chat  12:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I've started the relevant page. WilliamH (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

instant pets
Could I have at least had a go at writing the instant pets artical b4 you deleated it. I was mearly putting links in as described in the "how to write an article" to avoid deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marmajocks (talk • contribs) 13:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

re:Request For Account Creator Throttle to be removed
Hello, and thank you for granting the me the permission. I would just like to point out that I should be fair active there for the most part, so your assumption of good faith is appreciated. Cheers, Artichoker [ talk ]  20:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Balloonman's talk request
Well, you asked me to visit here. Would you be willing to coach me? -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  00:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply on talk page. -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  11:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I answered on the mentor page. -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  12:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, finished follow-up. -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  13:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, all follow-ups finished. -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  13:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm embarassed. :) Well, I've been away for about an hour or two, so uh, I finished the reading.  Now what? -- Meldshal   (§peak to me)  17:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA Review
If you're still interested in helping out on the RfA review, there are some notes on the talk page at WT:RREV to get started. Please let me know if there's anything else you need. Much appreciated,  Gazimoff  WriteRead 01:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Closing the RFA - help needed
Hi,

I'm still learning admin stuff, and I must confess that I am not too sure what happens about closing. I followed the instructions at WP:GRFA, but wasn't aware about the untransclusion (thanks for that) and what lists it gets added to. I guess I assumed a bot did all that.

Could you do it, please, and I'll make a note of what you did from watching your contributions? Or, if you know where the list of instructions are for what ban be done for a non-crat closure, please let me know. Thanks! StephenBuxton (talk) 11:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Cheers for that. I realise now where I should have looked - WP:BUR.  I've gone back to the RFA and did the little bit that I hadn't done.  Thanks for pointing out what I hadn't done! StephenBuxton (talk) 11:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Kurt
It's not resolved until someone gets through to him he's manner is unacceptable. WR alone, I'd slide. But seeing as he used IRC... Sceptre (talk) 22:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's apparent nothing can ever be done about Kurt. Efforts to get him community banned from RFA are rejected because he's entitled to an opinion - though there's a difference between having one and using it to troll. Sceptre (talk) 22:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Jimbo once said something to the effect of not entertaining the idea of "Well, he is really uncivil and a negative influence, but he should stay because he does a lot of good work". Arguemntum ad Jimbo aside, it's a good piece of wisdom that routinely gets ignored. Sceptre (talk) 22:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Acknowledged. Sorry, but off to bed now - not ducking the issue but one is rather cream crackered! Pedro : Chat  23:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Not sure why this discussion is taking place on Pedro's talk page but anyway. What are we here for? To make friends, or to build an encyclopedia? You have to break eggs to make an omelette do you not? Who cares how many facebook kiddies are upset by being called facebook kiddies? Who cares how many editors are upset by being accused of being too eager for whatever status "administrator" is thought to bestow. Kurt's position is well-known and justifiable. Live with it. Hell, even perhaps think about it. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 23:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

A favor
Hey Pedro! I know you get this a lot, but I couldn't think of anybody else better suited for the task. I know you spent a lot of time helping me prepare for a potential future role as an administrator, and I'm continually grateful. During that time I asked you to review my work as I value your opinion eminently. I was wondering, would it be too much trouble to give me your absolute honest opinion regarding my work since my last RfA? Kind of an informal editor review if you will. I would appreciate any positive and negative critiques you could offer.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 09:43, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

You don't have to dig too deep, you could just be from personal observation, or you can gander at my last 500 or so edits : )  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 09:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries - give me a mo! Pedro : Chat  09:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No concerns here. What I particularly like is the help in admin areas such as AIV and UAA - removing false positives and vandalism reports that will not lead to a block. That kind of clerking is particularly handy. The only comment I'd make is that it seemed to me that since your last RFA you've been quite quick to oppose others - however looking at recent edits this is perhaps more of an impression rather than reality - or maybe you came out after your RFA a bit jaded but have settled back? Other than that all I see is what I've generaly allways seen - a diverse and productive editor! You also seem to have perhaps "calmed down" on some exchanges where in the past you might have been more "boisterous" - again maybe that's just a perception. Pedro : Chat  09:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I can understand that assessment, it really was unintentional. I certainly was miffed at the last RfA, that's for sure, but honestly, I don't think it impacted my voting at RfA. If you recall, that was one of the major factors for why it failed in the first place - my oppositions (if you remember the whole "this isn't RFB" fiasco). Thanks for your input Pedro, always appreciated. One thing is for sure, I've become just slightly more brusque I suppose. I'll try and tone it down abit.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 10:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So, Pedro, there's an RfB up. —Giggy 10:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed - and I've supported - a fine candidate I think, and we can't have too many crats. Pedro : Chat  10:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah - I just saw your edit summary - was that a hint by any chance? Pedro : Chat  10:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

William Krar
Of course, your solution makes much more sense than my proposed speedy delete. Thank you. David in DC (talk) 15:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, there he is!
I have to say, your oppose on MFC's RFA wasn't sitting right with me, but I didn't want to beat you up over it. this is the Pedro that I know and love. I really hoped you'd keep revisiting that one. Cheers mate, glad to see you back around Wiki a bit - does that mean RL is settling a bit for you? Keeper   76  19:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah I'm a sucker for watchlisting all RfA's I comment on, and re-reading them. I'm not exactly infallible and often the discussion brings me to change my mind. Yeah, RL is a bit easier (well less work on!) so back to a bit more WP stuff now - for about five more weeks anyway ...... then I might go a bit quiet again - or at least be editing at 3am local time....:) Pedro : Chat  19:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

John Durbin
You declined the speedy delete on John Durbin, (no problem with that), but I don't understand your comment "speedy declined - no prejudice to WP:AFD but notability asserted here". I assume you mean take it to AfD? Tassedethe (talk) 09:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, thats much clearer. I had assumed the bio had to have some explicit statement e.g. he starred in 'blah blah', or 'critically acclaimed for...'. Now I have to consider whether his star trek credits raise him to notable level. Tassedethe (talk) 09:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Request
Hello again Pedro. I was wondering about requesting a slightly bigger tool shelf in the proverbial garden shed at some point: were you to poke around in the flower beds, your response and opinion would be appreciated. Thanks. WilliamH (talk) 19:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for taking the time to do that. I have responded. WilliamH (talk) 15:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Responded again, thanks for reviewing my responses. WilliamH (talk) 17:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello again. I'm pleased our mentoring exchanges have been fruitful. Do you think we could discuss admin basics? Should you nominate me I'm thinking it's only fair you should be able to consider my knowledge of such things before so. Thanks, WilliamH (talk) 12:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll reply on the mentoring page! Pedro : Chat  08:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your commentary, I've responded. Also well done to your time here. I've no idea what they're talking about below though: Marmite is superb stuff. WilliamH (talk) 14:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Love it or hate it! I'll take a look now for you. Pedro : Chat  14:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A preliminary yes - I like the sound of August 1st, so Friday? Ample preparation time, and as I said, real life is coming at me in drifts and waves this week. Bearing this in mind, there is of course, no rush. WilliamH (talk) 14:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Walking by your grave
Reply to User talk:Closeapple:
 * No problem. I was thinking of doing WP:AfD on it myself, but at first I vainly hoped maybe they'd go away from another WP:PROD.  That's when I started looking around and realized the author's a sockpuppet that didn't get caught until now.  Thanks for the AfD.  I'm going to post a sockpuppet report on this guy in a few minutes also, if I can get it together. --Closeapple (talk) 07:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

A question: Is it appropriate to add Sweet Revenge (hardcore band) to this, since that has been repeatedly created before also, or should it wait until he creates it again? --Closeapple (talk) 07:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops! I misread a patrol entry for an older deletion in the log.  Sorry about that. --Closeapple (talk) 08:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

The related sockpuppet report: Suspected sock puppets/XrockerrogersX --Closeapple (talk) 09:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Deleting image
Could you delete that image for me? Thanks, -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  21:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ No worries. Pedro : Chat  21:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Evaluation
How am I doing so far?  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  04:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry RC - Missed this - I'll have a nose around for you! Pedro : Chat  08:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Approval of Rollback
Thanks a lot for the approval! monkeynoze (talk) 20:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

This was great
Cheers,  Enigma  message 06:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Timothy Hodge
i see that you consider that article for Timothy Hodge for deletion, but i disagree, do ur research, this person is a notable singer, i went to concerts and shows, there are acticles, newspapers on this person, if the guide lines are wrong or if its not in right format then, edit correctly, but i dont think it should be deleted,

--Sunpop (talk) 16:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)sunpop--Sunpop (talk) 16:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I did my research, as did other Wikipedians. Sorry, but this guy is just not notable. Pedro : Chat  20:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thankspam
Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoy gabs adds 19:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy 2nd Wikibirthday
Hi there Pedro, just want to wish you a Happy 2nd year edit day anniversary and hope you can continue your great work for a long time to come. I know im a tad late but looking at your talk page it seems everyone has passed you by and i wont let that happen to a fantastic editor like yourself :) When you granted me rollback after i had removed my name from the list i had a feeling you were a dedicated editor here on the wiki and ever since then i have seen many, many userpages which mention your name as someone to go to if we ever need help. I dont know if you feel like, only 2 years! or that was a long time! but heres to Pedro :D Cheers  Monster Under Your Bed  (talk) 03:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow - thank you! Two years! Thanks for noting and thanks for your most kind words! Pedro : Chat  21:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Possible RFA
Since more and more people are voting oppose on RFAs in which users are being "admin-coached", I'm not completely sure my coaching should continue. Nevertheless, i would still like to finalize my knowledge of an administrator's roles here on Wikipedia with you, in a non-coaching way. Thanks, -- Meldshal  (§peak to me)  16:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Bit late to be worried about that now I'd suggest. Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb. ;-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 17:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Meldshal, you shouldn't stop your admin coaching just because people oppose you for silly reasons such as that. A lot of great candidates get shot down for silly reasons like this. RFA is a monster, but remember to be yourself, not the "ideal RFA candidate". --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, are there any obvious examples of RfAs that have failed because of admin coaching? I know that it produces a few bullshit opposes (ahemKURTahem), but has it actually derailed an RfA? Tan      39  17:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Requests for adminship/Enigmaman comes to mind, as does Requests for adminship/Wisdom89 3, both with several opposes for the perceived or real concern over being "manufactered" admin candidates, amongst other oppose rationales.  Keeper    76  18:04, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I disagree. You're right that there were "manufactured admin" comments and a few poor-faith opposes, but most of the opposition for those two was based on conduct and diffs. I'm certainly not saying I agree with them, I'm just observing. Regardless of whether I'm interpreting those opposes correctly or not, my main point here is that without any actual reasons to oppose, admin coaching is still a "net positive" (apropos for this talk page) and I don't see a good reason for Meldshal42 to quit. Just my two cents, carry on. Tan      39  18:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't go back and actually look at either, you're probably right. E-man's stood out exactly because he hasn't ever been thru formal coaching, yet somehow came across that way, more of a curiousity than anything else.  I don't dispute that there were other concerns with both editors, those are simply the two that came to mind.  And, now I'll let Pedro actually answer your question...:-)  Keeper    76  18:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of mine: coaching wasn't the primary reason that caused it to fail, but take out the opposes for "coached", and a 'crat likely closes it as a successful. That could be said for a few other things as well. It was indeed interesting that one doesn't have to be coached to get opposes for being coached. I think I mentioned that on WT:RFA afterwards. :) I guess if people view you as a "coached candidate", whatever that means, you don't have to have gone through the actual process or have an actual coach, for that matter.  Enigma  message 19:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the bigger issue behind Meldshal's question remains unanswered though. Pedro has made some strides towards decoupling "How to Pass an RfA" from "How to be a good administrator", but I'm still sceptical that's been fully decoupled. But hey, I was born sceptical, and hopefully I'll manage to die sceptical, even doubting my own death. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * All, as ever a fine and excellent selection of thoughts and ideas from some very experienced Wikipedians. The matter at hand, of course, is whether User:Meldshal42 would suffer at WP:RFA from "admin coaching". As noted above I have done my best to try to distinguish "Coaching" (as a one-on-one guide to pass RFA - a bad thing) as against "mentoring" (a collaborative approach to ensure new administators are not only the best that can be found, but also able to deal with the tool-set and the demands that can come with it, from day 1). Regretfully, I feel the answer is moot. Meldshall, I apologise but I do not believe you are ready to be an administrator. User:Meldshal42/Mentoring refers. I know from your user page that you were seeking adminship during this summer. I'm afraid this is unlikely. I would urge you to continue to enjoy Wikipedia and to set aside concerns about being an admin. I would also urge you to take pride in being an editor of this work, and to continue your hard work here, which is not unappreciated. Again, please do not feel too let down by this, but I'm afraid an RFA would certainly fail at this time. Pedro : Chat  21:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Let me qualify that, as I do not intend to, nor ever could I, speak for the community. Please by all means run for RFA, but my experience and judgement of the community here (exactly two years as noted above with about ten months as an admin) leads me to the conviction that an RFA would fail. I'd prefer you to defer for a while rather than be put down by a failed request. Again, I hope this doesn't make you feel upset and re-iterate that you should take great pride in your work and contributions here. Pedro : Chat  21:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * To play Devil's advocate, it may be that Meldshal is concerned about the apparent inverse correlation between time spent editing wikipedia and success at RfA? Perhaps that's why time is of the essence? Whatever the reason, I'm inclined to agree with Pedro; I can see very little chance of an RfA passing whether or not admin coaching is continued with. Not saying that's right, not saying that's wrong, just saying that's the way it is. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, I didn't expect to cause such a ruckus! Pedro, I only asked you because Ultraexactzz was leaning towards nominating me, but I told him to wait so I could get your opinion. I really expected only to get Pedro's opinion, not any more! Anyway, thanks for that guys, I appreciate it. I've decided on my own to wait a bit and get "mentored" by Pedro as Malleus and Pedro suggested.  And if I fail my RfA because of "coached" opposes, whatever.  -- Meldshal   (§peak to me)  12:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Good man - it's worth waiting - it really isn't a big deal, and there's no point running through the bear bit for the sake of it! Pedro : Chat  12:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Mekka don
Thanks. After seeing the talk page and actually thinking about it, I was not sure if I had done the correct thing. Cheers! J.delanoy gabs adds 23:04, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy birthday Pedro!
Our first encounter was me telling you, after one of your posts, that I desparetely and longingly wanted a cigarette. I still don't smoke, and unless I'm uninformed, you still do, and I'm still violently jealous of that. Happy wiki-birthday to you my new friend. I'm personally coming up on my one-year, which I'm hoping passes unnoticed... Keeper   76  23:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

My first encounter with Pedro, so far as I recall, was his opposition to one of my RfAs. It's difficult to find the words to describe how I feel about that now ... actually it's not. They're "couldn't care less". Pedro acted honestly, which is what I would always trust him to do. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 23:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I still wanna cigarette. Or, as I originally posted to Pedro's page:  breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out.... ..... Keeper    76  23:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Pedro is awesome. When I'm not spending time thinking about how great I am as a contributor, I start to think how I could act more like him. Happy 2nd, P - DRO! Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 00:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I couldn't help it Peds, my first post to you was this, which frankly, I thougt was a long long time ago, and not merely 4 or 5 months ago. I still desperately want a cig. You have no idea, (but if you quit, you will).  You're the man, Peds, I look up to you and look forward to everything you have to say regarding this bizarre little online community.  Cheers my friend.  Keeper    76  00:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * While I may not agree with your food choices, I couldn't imagine this project without you. You do fantastic work here, and I'll be keeping an eye out for this. I wish you the very happiest of Wiki-birthdays, my friend. May you have many happy returns! Glass  Cobra  00:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks all! Two years pounding the keyboard for Wikipedia. The ammount I'm owed in back pay must be huge! Pedro : Chat  06:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)