User talk:PedroPVZ/archive2004

Pedro, Talk pages are for discussions. They are not articles. To edit an article is acceptable, but I find it unacceptable to remove someone's comments from a Talk page. Brooklyn Nellie 01:32, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)

hei Pedro! agora outra coisa, depois dos dialectos e sotaques: já viste isto?!? Muriel 09:53, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Say, Pedro. I've noticed you've been "chiming in with" User:141 a lot recentle on VFD and Votes_for_deletion/Lists. I'm just wondering if you know the guy personally or anything like that. Some people are raising eyebrows, since 141 has recently been characterized as "up to no good". It might help if you clarified your relationship, if any, with this user, to prevent misunderstanding. - Fennec 15:38, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Pedro,

I really appreciate the work you started on Portuguese Creoles.

Best regards, --zeno 10:37, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Câmaras e Assembleias Muncipais
Hi, Pedro. I have created two new articles that I would appreciate your input on (since you are actually in Portugal and I am a Luso-Americano in Brooklyn). Please leave comments on the talk pages for the articles. They are:
 * Câmara Municipal
 * Assembleia Municipal

I was surprised to find no articles for these on the Portuguese Wikipedia.

Muito obrigado. Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 05:08, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)


 * Olá, Pedro. Obrigado pela tua mensagem.  Eu nasci nos Estados Unidos (em Yonkers, New York).  Agora moro em Brooklyn.  Meus pais emigraram de Serra do Bouro, Caldas da Rainha (artigos criados por mim).  Já estive em Potugal 5 vezes; a última vez foi iem 1999.  Tal vez irei este verão.  Nunca estudei Português, mas assisti à catequese ums anos.  Ainda assim, o minha ortografia fica melhor do que a da minha mãe.


 * Até breve.


 * --Nelson Ricardo Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 02:48, Mar 30, 2004 (UTC)

Olá, Pedro! Em relação ao galego-português na Catalunha: Escrevo aqui para poder escrever em português, depois traduzo o que for preciso para a página Talk:Portuguese. Já li em várias fontes que o galego-português não foi usado na coroa aragonesa, o que tem lógica, tendo em conta que tal coroa estava muito mais interessada nos acontecimentos além-Pirinéus do que na nossa Península. No entanto, a tua citação tem todo o valor, como é óbvio, e por isso vou procurar as tais fontes para comparar e ver em que ficamos. Depois te digo alguma coisa, tudo bem? Seja como for, gosto muito do que tens feito no artigo. Abraço e até breve! --Marco Neves 23:46, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Em relação ao que escreveste na minha página: sim, é uma questão absolutamente desnecessária. Vou colocar de novo o que puseste, afinal basta um catalão ter escrito em galego-português para ser válido. Seja como for, parece que somos "aliados" noutra "guerra" bastante mais séria, relativa à unidade da língua portuguesa, que infelizmente muitos têm posto em causa, falando da "língua brasileira" e da creolização do português do Brasil. Há uma página sobre as diferenças entre as duas variedades Differences between Brazilian and European Portuguese varieties que já cheguei a alterar por apresentar variadas vezes a opinião de que as duas variedades da língua portuguesa eram "especialmente" distantes, em comparação com outras línguas internacionais, como o inglês. Cumprimentos! --Marco Neves 23:35, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Dear Pedro, I hope you'll reconsider your objection to the featured status of Sid McMath. Although it's not a topic that's of interest to everybody, or even most people, it's certainly got appeal that's as broad as heavy metal umlaut or crushing by elephant. Is there a problem with the writing? What could we do to fix your objection? I'd really appreciate it if you'd withdraw it, or add to your comments. Yours, Meelar 01:16, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

I have noticed that the Portuguese version of Wikipedia does not yet have 10,000 articles. I would like to see some of my articles translated into Portuguese, I am sure that some Wikipedians on the Portuguese version would like to see some of thier article translated into English. Therefore, I propose a English-Portuguese partnership.

The partnership would go beyond the Wikimedia Embassy system, it would not only serve as translation service but also a cultural exchnage. Bilingual wikipedians could translate pages and monolinguistic wikipedians could make corrections. One of the goals of the partnership would be to create a limited profeciency in both language of all participating wikipedians. This could be accomplished through immersion and building one on one relationships.

Please post your response on my talk page.

-JCarriker 03:03, May 27, 2004 (UTC)

Oi Pedro!

Pus uma resposta para o seu comentario na minha pagina de discussao, ok? (P.s.: nao estou nem um pouco interessada em entrar em nenhum tipo de guerra, principalmente na questao de o que chamar o Portugues falado no Brazil que e uma coisa a respeito da qual eu nao me importo muito !). Obrigada,

AnandaLima 08:01, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Learning project
Hi, I saw you discussing portuguese sound files on another user's talk page by accident, and when I checked your page I saw you speak MANY languages - one of which I did not even know - and are into computer science. So I hope you are interested in a project I have started about learning, mainly vocabulary. It is described and discussed on my page, please let me know there what you think about it. Get-back-world-respect 20:14, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Translations
Are you still interested in the English-Portuguese partnership? If you are I'd like to see Marshall, Texas translated; you may want to take a look at Nzinga of Ndongo and Matamba first. She was Portugal's arch-nemisis in Angola. Please let me know how I can help your efforts.

-JCarriker 03:13, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks for agreeing to translate the articles. (There actually are Portugeuse speakers in Marshall.) In which ways are you intersted in the partnership and how can I help with your translations?
 * -JCarriker 03:32, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)


 * I have added the image of the Old Courthouse, to the pt:Marshall article. I have set up a Portuguese account, with your approval I am willing to help you by uploading pictures from the English to the Portuguese verison of wikipedia. That way you won't have to worry about doing it yourself and it should save some your time. I'm fairly compentent, so I should be able to upload pictures to the portuguese pages. You may want to check my portuguese user page to make sure that I didn't say I am the walrus or something.


 * Let me know when your ready to star with a cultural exchange. :)


 * -JCarriker 02:03, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)


 * Nzinga now has a picture, let me know what other pictures you need.
 * -JCarriker 02:24, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)

Olá Pedro. You might be interested to know that in the Harry Potter in translation series articles, Brazilian Portuguese is constantly referred to in a way which suggests it is a separate language. In List of characters in translations of Harry Potter I moved the 2 Portugueses together with the name of the country in parentheses instead. You may want to correct the rest. &mdash; Hippietrail 10:32, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Inter-language links
Well, the main page already has inter-language links to all the other Wikipedias on it, in the "Wikipedia in Other Languages" section. I'm not sure why the standard form of inter-language links were also there, especially since it was only 10 or so Wikipedias that were linked that way. Adding them *all* that way would be redundant, since then we'd have a huge list (over 50 entries) of languages twice on the same page. --Delirium 19:28, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)

Portuguese talk page move
I prefer to maintain one talk page. I have moved your comments to the English talk and redirected the the Portuguese tlak there. I have taekn great care to make sure wikipedians who do not speak English realize that they are in the corret place. I have added the phrase discussion page in English, Spanish, Portuguese, and French to the top of the page. I have also added instructions on where I prefer user post comments and a message asking Spainsh, Portuguese, and French speakers to ignore Read this before posting section. I hopes it will at least be understandable, if not please inform me of what needs to be changed.

Please send me a list of pictures you want uploaded to pt:wiki as soon as is convenient. Força!

-JCarriker 03:24, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)

Java
Hi. Please disambiguate "Java" on your user page. e.g. Java. Thanks. RedWolf 05:13, Jun 26, 2004 (UTC)

Images in Portugal
Oizinho Pedro,

I have seen in the Portugal page that IPPAR allows to use their images if the source is stated. Can you let me know where you got this information from? Did you ask them? It's because I would like to use these images in the German project, too, but in there we are extremely strict about copyrighted images, so I need some kind of bulletproof copyright information. Obrigado já, -- Herr Klugbeisser 07:28, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Oizinho mais uma vez! Você por acaso pode me enviar o e-mail com a resposta da IPPAR? Queria incluir este e-mail no imagem quando o carrego na Wikipédia. Emquanto às cidades portuguesas na Wikipédia alemã, a maioria foi eu que fiz, mas infelizmente no momento só contêm informações estatísticas, faltam cultura, festas, história etc. Quando tiver tempo vou traduzir Portuguese language que acho um artigo muito excelente. Até logo, -- Herr Klugbeisser 17:19, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * PS: Meu Nick não tem nada a ver com meu nome real. :-)

birds
Hi Pedro, thanks for the kind words. I don't think that the ITIS list on which List of Portuguese birds is based correctly designates how rare some of these species are. Swinhoe's Petrel must be very rare, but it's not designated as such. Similarly, the North American species recorded only on the Azores are all very rare, but this is not indicated.

As for other animals, I don't know if there is any equivalent of ITIS. Jim

Imagens
Oi Pedro, acabo de carregar umas imagens de Portugal na Wikipédia alemã: Recibi a permissão dos autores de utilisá-las livremente, então aproveite se interessar. Emquanto à última foto, você por acaso sabe em que lugar fica esta igreja? Cumprimentos de Viena, -- Herr Klugbeisser 11:00, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Porto
 * Coimbra
 * Igreja com azulejos

Portugal
Oi Pedro (mais uma vez), os artigos sobre Portugal e sobre a língua portuguesa que criei a partir do seu trabalho aquí na WP inglesa foram elevados a artigos excelentes na Wikipedia alemã. Parabéns e obrigado! Quando fizer maiores modificações nestes dois artigos, me avise, que eu gostaria de ainda melhorar a informação nos meus artigos. -- Herr Klugbeisser 09:39, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Um pedido para o mediation -- por favor resposta
Olá Pedro! User:VBS has requested mediation with you about the Portuguese language and Brazilian Portuguese pages. Please reply as to whether or not you accept, either at Requests for mediation or on my talk page.

Obrigado, 18:55, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

User Vbs and MPDs
I've been hearing things. Looks like you've been implying to other people that Vbs is in fact the same person that posted many of the messages at the Portuguese language talk page. I just want to say one thing. While I can't be sure of those other members, I can talk for myself. I am not Vbs. I think that should be pretty obvious. We even have very different manners of approaching and discussing about the subject. I posted what I posted because those are MY opinions, and I do think they make a lot of sense. I'm not trying to defend no one, just standing up for what I believe. Just voicing my views. If you plan to use that to ban him, I suggest you to come up with better arguments. Mods/Admins probably have means of checking IPs, and if any of those come my way to ask anything, I'll gladly tell them you're terribly wrong if you think I'm someone else other than me.

One more thing I'd like to comment about is the "Brazilian Portuguese is a different language, and the European Portuguese is like Latin" thing. I never said that. It's really damn obvious those are the same language (if they weren't, they wouldn't have the *gosh* same name, eh?). All I said is, I do believe the differences between those two variations are larger than the ones found between and American and the British English, and I do think that reflects common sense. I don't have a whole lot of practical examples to give, but you sure saw my Google example. About the Latin thing, people here do see EP as something more refined in terms of rules. It's not me or Vbs, that's common sense. The kind of thing you CAN'T know if you don't live here. So yes, that's an opinion (largely found here, yes), and therefore, should be never added to the article, for example. It was posted there merely for illustrative/argumentative means.

Also, I think you took what I said regarding that Ronaldo dude completely the wrong way. In fact, you couldn't be any more mistaken. He said he is Brazilian, and when I said "Stand up for your country; make us proud"... that was a direct critic to HIS PERSON. That guy was saying shit and backing up his arguments with absolutely nothing. Intimidation based on nothing. I don't appreciate that kind of attitude (and I'm dead sure most people don't, either), so I think it was pretty dumb of him, hence my critic. As arrogant as this may sound, I don't want people putting shame on Brazil. Our reputation is already good enough outside [sarcasm allert] to have weird mofos fooling around and making things worse for our reputation. If someone is willing to get into a discussing and state ideas, those should be backed up by real arguments, and not pointless gibberish. I don't feel that our country was OMG RAPED by the Portuguese language. Again, lighten up.

That's all. Thanks for listening. – Kaonashi 14:13, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

esTotW
Since you put your name down as a spanish to english traslator, i thought you might be interested in the new Spanish translation of the week collaboration project. This weeks collaboration is Género chico.(Disclosure: this is a bit of a "mass mailing", I'm working my way down the list of Spanish-to-English translators.)

btw, i see you are portuguese, my second language was portugese, and i think it is far more beautiful than español. If esTotW takes off i would love to create a ptTotW as well.

paz e amor, The bellman 05:40, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)  15:07, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

Unverified images
Hi! Thanks for uploading the following images:


 * Image:Ilhas_selvagens.jpg
 * Image:Ilhas_selvagens.png
 * Image:Portugal olivenca.jpg
 * Image:Portuguese discoveries diogo cao.jpg
 * Image:Castelo sagres IPPAR.jpg

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License,  if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the imagesand I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 23:41, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.


 * Here's another image you can take a thwack at: Image:Cplp.jpg. All the stuff above applies, shoot me a message if you need help! I've tagged it in the mean time. --MaxPower 19:57, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)


 * Also, you need to tag Image:Africa portuguese creoles.png, Image:South asia portuguese creoles.png, Image:South america portuguese creoles.png, and Image:Southeast asia portuguese creoles.png. However, your note on the Africa image that it represents the Portuguese Creoles in South America has me a little nervous.  I'm going to just assume that this was just a quick cut-and-paste job. Thanks! --Ricky81682 (talk) 00:47, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)