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178.79.8.93
I have reverted all edits by. SLBedit (talk) 19:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Real Zaragoza v Zaragoza
If you're really in such opposition to the de facto use of "Zaragoza" over "Real Zaragoza", you really need to take it up with WP:FOOTY. As a matter of fact why have you not attempted to change the La Liga, Segunda División, and European football articles if you feel so obnoxiously strong about this point? Why is it just UEFA Euro 2008 squads that has you in a bunch? Some consistency would be nice. Italia2006 (talk) 00:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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AD Alcorcón
Hi PeeJay,

Can you see if you can find or edit an encyclopedia-worthy version of this team's new badge? I had a look on their official website but all of the images had coloured or patterned backgrounds

And PS good luck for tonight. From where I live and have studied, I can consider myself a little Welsh, a bit like that cow that runs on the beach in the advert because it thinks it's a horse. &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 13:55, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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Henrikh Mkhitaryan
He's signed with Manchester United, are you satisfied now??? Just a friendly advice, next time try not be a smartass, it's not nice, mate. ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafgrigor (talk • contribs) 15:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

User:Canon 108 Italy-Germany results again
Hi PeeJay. I wanted to come to you first as you were one of the users to have given some input on the project page about the result of this match with respect to how UEFA classification and Germany's first competitive win over Italy. As you saw, User:Canon 108 believed that it shouldn't be noted as a defeat and rather used the word "eliminated" which could cause confusion as you pointed out. After several other users gave their inputs who also thought that it should be noted as a defeat, with no one attesting to Canon's argument. Canon has still persisted in adding his version back to the Italian and German national team pages against consensus. I've tried to communicate this to him on his talk page, but refuses to listen to consensus. He may also be over 3RR and is also removing the proper ndash convention dashes for some reason. I was wondering what sort of action I could take? Canon insists I talk to an admin and they will tell me the "same thing he is telling me". Maybe I can ask GiantSnowman or Number 57 or someone? Or maybe Dispute resolution requests? Any suggestions to amend this issue? Thanks. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:21, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * PeeJay, I couldn't help but notice you've already edited your talk page. Should I ask somewhere else, or were you too busy at the time to answer? Sorry for my haste if that's the case. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 12:56, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * What's an archive worth if you don't respond? How come? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 16:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2016
PeeJay2K3 - my absolute apology!!! Should have done a talk, here with you, before doing the reversion a minute ago - per proper etiquette amongst regular editors.

As stated in the note for my reversion, the use of two balls was pulled directly from UEFA's own website, as per the citation, in which they themselves, the "owners" of the tournament, opened with the secondary headline "For the first time in the competition's history, there will be a second official match ball after adidas launched a new design for the UEFA EURO 2016 knockout rounds."

If this is incorrect, then UEFA itself should not be saying it.

Perhaps you are referring to EURO Qualifying using one ball, and the EURO Finals (Group/Knockout combined) using a different ball? I was wondering about that too, and played with being more wordy in clarifying that aspect of the balls. In the end, I took it as UEFA EURO Qualifying Tournament, in 2014/2015, not being considered part of the UEFA EURO Finals Tournament in 2016, and thus I would not need to over-state that distinction. Jmg38 (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Further to your comments (thank you), I'd have to agree that UEFA is probably referring to the fact that 2016 is the first time that they changed the entire model of ball (Beau Jeu vs Fracas), as compared to the white-paneled vs silver-panelled colour change of the Europass/Europass Gloria in 2008, and again with the singularly named Tango 12 in 2012. Both were a nice touch for the final-final game (and a chance to sell more balls, like comic books and magazines with two variations of their cover?!), but did not signify a change in the ball technology itself.


 * It's been nice discussing this with you... sorry your boys were stopped one game too soon. Jmg38 (talk) 23:14, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I am confused by the very-similar-colour too. An article at Soccer.com does state that the Fracas is the same basic ball, but that the Vice President of Design at adidas Football noted that the Fracas "features an innovative panel shape".  I did read another article that specifically suggests that the change in ball was due to the burst Beau Jeu during the France-Switzerland group game.  With all this oddness, I fall back on UEFA's statement that it is the first ever occurrence of a "second/new" ball. Jmg38 (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

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1962 World Cup
Thanks for your "Thank You Notice", PeeJay! But I'm afraid C. Gesualdo remains unconvinced. Let's hope he leaves the page alone in respect of this matter. Regards, MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 16:28, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Disgrace of Gijón ‎
Can you comment on this article? I feel that the CBC mention is significant, as the teams' 2008 meeting has some similarities to the 1982 main subjection. JoshDonaldson20 (talk) 16:14, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Axel Tuanzebe
Hey, you are a Manchester United fan. How can you say that he is not notable. You know he is certain to make his preseason debut and he will 100% get his senior debut in the league and if not then at least in the europa or the league cup. Sooner or later An article about Tuanzebe will be created so what's wrong with this? The sooner the better Anishchand99 (talk) 19:57, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

1996–97 UEFA Champions League
So... it's a tibdit. Much like this piece, featured promienntly at the top of the page:"the fifth since its rebranding as the UEFA Champions League, and the last involving only clubs that were champions of their domestic leagues." Jaro7788 (talk) 21:08, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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Ashley Fletcher
Err any reason why you are constantly re-formatting the infobox and using misleading/partial edit summaries to hide it? Please keep the layout as it as at Infobox football biography. GiantSnowman 19:36, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

ANI notification
Since you dont like being templated I will give you this personal message instead. I have filed a report at WP:ANI regarding your behaviour. Honestly, I took my time before deciding to do it and reconsidered multiple times because I know that you are a good contributor and has done a lot of work for wikipedia. But I cant not ignore they way you speak, using bad language against other editors. For example, instead of just reverting a link to an existing article you could have left it until article was deleted, and also notified the editor about notability guidelines. Please try and be nice, even though I know it can be frustrating some times. I dont think anyone wants to see you blocked, but with a declining number of editors we can not attack new editors who are willing to improve and create new articles. They only need guidance. Qed237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 22:56, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Axel Tuanzebe
Once a PROD (however valid) has been removed (for any reason, or none at all), then it cannot be re-added, the article must be taken to WP:AFD. GiantSnowman 10:44, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Please stop editing my edits - Axel Tunazebe is now a member of the first team squad, and has his on page on Wiki. There is no justification whatsoever for removing this link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martynww (talk • contribs) 16:23, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Because them's the rules. No need to be rude. GiantSnowman 10:17, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Somerset and Alex Ferguson
Back in December 2008 you made an edit to the Alex Ferguson article where you said that he had played in a friendly match for Manchester United early in his managerial reign against Somerset County Cricket Club as part of a tour of the Bermuda national team of England. This didn't really make sense to me because Somerset CCC are a first class cricket club rather than a football team and why would a professional English football team play a professional English cricket team as part of Bermudian tour of England?

After a quick Google I saw what actually happened was United 'toured' Bermuda, playing two matches, one against the Bermuda 'national' team and one against a local club known as Somerset CC or Somerset Trojans.

I'm not sure how this information has remained in the article all these years but since the article is now protected perhaps you could find a way to have it fixed?

86.184.177.9 (talk) 03:00, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

1998 FIFA World Cup squads
Hi there, you reverted an edit of mine on this page. You left an instruction in the edit summary to set column widths, but I don't understand what you mean. Would you mind showing me what you had in mind, preferably by making the edit that you are thinking of? I quite often adjust tables in an attempt to improve the visual layout, so if there's a better way I should be doing these, I'd love to learn how. Thanks. CUA 27 (talk) 01:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello again. I'm following up on the reply you left on my talk page. You've basically restated your earlier comment, but without explaining how to actually do it. Can you show me how to do that, please? CUA 27 (talk) 12:06, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, it's me again. I'm still interested in hearing from you. I figure if you're going to take the time to revert my edit and tell me I'm doing it wrong, you wouldn't mind showing me the right way to do set the columns widths. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks. CUA 27 (talk) 15:09, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hennrikh Mkhitaryan
Hi You reverse my last edition on Mkhitaryan article by why word?Modern Sciences (talk) 07:35, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh are two articles. Modern Sciences (talk) 07:40, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Inter Milan
The discussions have happened on Talk:Inter Milan, the most recent was Talk:Inter Milan/Archive 3, where the article move was suggested and lost multiple, times. I am not misinterpreting anything. The team's common name is Inter Milan. Period. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:15, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There is no confusion when piped. The only confusion is that the team's COMMONNAME and agreement during the most recent move is not being followed. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:38, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sticking religiously to ignoring the edit notice is not helping either. Please reply here and add talkback templates to my talk page. I will continue to blank any discussion to my talk page based on the edit notice.
 * I am not sticking to the agreement religiously. I am enforcing it despite your objection. There is no indication that anyone other than you is confused. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:47, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

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Stadium Names
Hi PeeJay... The names "Stadion Narodowy" and "Stadion Miejski" are the official names of the stadia in Poland... "National Stadium" and "Municipal Stadium" are only the English translations... UEFA also uses the official Polish names so is it correct to change the proper official name of a stadium to its translation? We use official names like "Stadion Feijenoord" and "Stade de France" etc then why not "Stadion Miejski"? The official name given to a stadium can't be changed into a translation just like it's applicable for human names... Please have a look at this point... Would like to have a discussion with you on this!!! Cricket246 (talk) 16:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Then, in order to maintain consistency, should we stick with the article names? Should we then stick with "Stadion Miejski" and "National Stadium"? I think it will be a better option and consistency will be maintained like that as well!!! Cricket246 (talk) 16:58, 30 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok then I'm changing "Municipal Stadium" to "Stadion Miejski" there... Thanks!!! Cricket246 (talk) 17:04, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Vikings Projected Depth Chart
I have inscribed it's the Projected Depth Chart 2016. if we say that it is the Projected, it's good, no ? RCFrance (talk) 16:54, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * For the source it's the Foxsports website (except for 2/3 I update order ), the model is the basic after if you have another model for the depth chart why not .RCFrance (talk) 17:11, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

The Stadium at Lisbon
Hi PeeJay... The full name of the stadium is "Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica"... Have look at the 2014 match cover programme released by UEFA and there also the full official name has been mentioned so why not use the official name instead of a nickname? Even UEFA's announcement for the CL 2014 final usrs the full official name!!! Please have a look!!! Cricket246 (talk) 21:20, 30 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Not overcomplicating... But this is indeed a touch awkward... We are ignoring the official name and using a nickname which is quite strange... If UEFA had published that full name (as you can see clearly in the cover of the final), we should be using that full name at least for the 2014 CL final article... The official cover released by UEFA as well as the Scorecard has the full official name so we should be piping the nickname with the full name at least for this one page of UEFA CL final 2014 as the official source mentions the full name!!! Please consider this logic once !!! Cricket246 (talk) 22:46, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok that's good... I'll be listing them down in a post to your talkpage in case I feel any more names need changing... I didn't change this name after the 1st time so don't worry... By the way, my point actually was not to change the article's name itself but rather add the full name in places where the source mentions the full name!!! For eg if we write "Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica" in CL 2014 page by piping then if a viewer clicks on it he will straightaway go to the page "Estádio da Luz"... This was actually my suggestion... In this say we can comply with the official source of a particular tournament and the common name of the page remains as it is... This was actually my exact idea that I wanted to express!!! Cricket246 (talk) 22:59, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Actually for any international tournament, the official names of the stadia are used in majority of sites!!! Like we never use our nicknames in official purposes and rather use our full names!!! That's why I thought piping would be a good idea as we can use both names!!! This was the logic I actually had in my mind that this might be more informative for viewers!! Cricket246 (talk) 23:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Also considering that the page is regarding UEFA Champions League, I actually felt that the name used by UEFA should be used in the CL article maybe... The article name of the venue shouldn't be changed based on UEFA's naming but for an UEFA match, I thought only the UEFA official names matter for stadia!!! Can I bring up our discussion up on WP:FOOTY as this seems a touch complicated? So many logics are valid but not sure which one to implement!! Cricket246 (talk) 23:15, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi.. I understood what you said in your last message on the talkpage... I have only one query though.. Have a look here in 2006 FIFA World Cup Group C where the stadium name "Allianz Arena" is piped to the official name for the event which is "FIFA WM Stadion München"... Now my query is that if we use the name used by FIFA for a FIFA tournament in that tournament's Wiki pages instead of the commonly known names, then why should not the names used by UEFA for an event be implemented in that event's Wiki page? For the WC 2006 the stadium name "Allianz Arena" wasn't used and for the 2014 CL final the name "Estádio da Luz" wasn't used... Wikipedia editors have clearly used official stadium names released by FIFA in all WC pages so I think the same should be done for major UEFA tournaments as well... As you said earlier, we should maintain a level consistency, then why aren't we consistent among all major competition's pages??? Should be same for all international tournaments... Please have a look at the 2006 FIFA World Cup and see the official names used there instead of nicknames... Let me know your thoughts on this... Thank you!!! Cricket246 (talk) 08:53, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

"The large financial services provider Allianz purchased the naming rights to the stadium for 30 years. However this name cannot be used when hosting FIFA and UEFA events, since these governing bodies have policies forbidding corporate sponsorship from companies that are not official tournament partners" - I just read this in the Allianz Arena page so it's clear to me now why UEFA and FIFA doesn't recognize these common names... But then what should we do with pages like 2006 FIFA World Cup Group C where the Wiki editors haven't put in the common and well known names??? Should we edit those FIFA's official name to common names like"Allianz Arena" as we are going with the common and well-known name everywhere??? Cricket246 (talk) 09:03, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

United third kit
✅  VEO one five 12:29, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Pierluigi Gollini
You have done two consecutive acts of vandalism on this player page. You have cancelled his club number, his international career section and his statistics with the Italy U21 team.--93.35.183.231 (talk) 13:25, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

2016 Super Cup
Hey man, how are you? Yep, those guys are ahead of the AM, but they're not forwards as the Madrid's lineup for example. They're clearly behind the CF and should qualify as wingers. That display is correct. You have the AM, then both wingers ahead of him on the list and then finally the CF. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 19:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Super Cup medals
Uefa gives 40 medals to the winner. Cristiano bale and Pepe and Toni kroos are winners. Last year Neymar and Douglass. We're winners even though they didn't get called up Aavelarx (talk) 13:24, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

James Chester
Chester's move has been formally announced by both clubs hours ago, I was about to reference and you have rv'ed it back. Why not just add a ref rather than rv'ing to an out-of-date page that other editors will now have to do extra work on? Mountain cirque 14:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

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Supercup
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Trophée_des_Champions Go to article 9. The winner of the supercup gets 40 gold medals. Cristiano, bale, keylor navas, and toni kroos and Pepe all got medals even though they didn't play. Funny how you only want to remove the 2016 honour from Cristiano but not from bale or the others m. Perhaps  Its because you'rwelsh and you'r  e biased? Aavelarx (talk) 14:29, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo
A source that is related to Ronaldo and Real Madrid is not indepedent? not reliable? What kind of funny statement is this? This is your own unreasonable idea. If you continue to do this, I will consider to report you for vandalism. 七战功成 {talk) 00:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Super cup
"In fact, they are the exact opposite of independent. " "but definitely not in cases like this when they're just trying to make their players look good." That is Real Madrid's official website, it definitely has authority. It's no doubt that it's a highly reliable source. Whether it's independent or not is not decided by you, and besides, you never have any legitimate reasons except your funny logics and conjecture. Players still can get honours even if they don't play or get into the squad of the game. This is a clear fact, a common sense, you don't know? Go see Gareth Bale's twitter. He was also not in the squad of the game but he also got the medal, got the honour. Every player of the Real Madrid got this honour, do you know? I think I already write down all what I should say. The truth is already very clear. If you still go your own way, I will report you right away. 七战功成 (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Super Cup
What do you mean "youth players"? If they are the players of B team or juvenil, of course they don't get the honours, because they are never a part of the first team. What I am talking about is just the first team players. You can't even figure out this point? Is this very difficult to understand? And I repeat this again: Players still can get honours even if they don't play or get into the squad of a game. This is a clear fact, it's not up to you. If a player doesn't get a honour, what do the club give him a medal for? Giving a player a medal means the club recognize the player has the honour. Understand? This can not be simpler and clearer. Nothing need to be further explained and nothing has problems except your understanding. 七战功成 (talk) 08:23, 15 August 2016 (UTC)


 * (TPS)Boggles the mind as to why: 1 - they want to keep the honour in players that did not even make the bench for the game, presenting as "source/proof" the club's official profile and that's it; 2 - they threaten to report you. Don't worry, leave the "honour" be, we know where the reason is (I am totally relaxed, of all those players I only edit in Fábio Coentrão and Álvaro Morata (the latter apparently also won the 2015 Supercoppa Italiana whilst resting in his home!) --Be Quiet AL (talk) 15:09, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Supercup
Neymar just got the supercup 2016 Spanish. Why don't you remove that honour from him? He's in Brazil currently in the olmpics laughable your bias against Ronaldo Aavelarx (talk) 13:30, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Premier League 2016-17
You didn't have to be rude about the edit I made on the 2016-17 Premier League article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drinkdrinker (talk • contribs) 20:47, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Infobox formatting
Because that is the way it is formatted in the documentation. Why do you feel 'your' version is better? No other infobox (actor, writer, scientists etc.) is bunched up like that. GiantSnowman 06:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That is the standard for all infoboxes as far as I'm aware; I'd disagree that it makes it any easier to edit; and plenty of other sports use multiple parameters for stats (e.g. cricket) or other entries (e.g. offices held by politicians). GiantSnowman 18:37, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * True, but you wouldn't edit like this, would you?


 * year21 =
 * years2 =
 * years3 =
 * clubs1 =
 * clubs2 =

etc. - but where's the policy that prohibits that? GiantSnowman 18:55, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * But have you never reverted one of the VE infobox bugs? Or whenever someone has completely changed the order around? How is this different from that? GiantSnowman 19:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It's nothing more, or less, than that is the current infobox documentation standard, and that is what I edit per. GiantSnowman 19:13, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Supercup
Hey, to be fair, i think it's impossible against fanboys, they think we hate him which is not the case. Good that it is removed from the other articles aswell. Surprised that no one has helped on FOOTY aswell, sadly... Will see if/when i will answer. Not sure if it's worth the time. Kante4 (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Same on Neymar i see. Winning something when he was not even in the same country... Kante4 (talk) 14:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe re opening it at Footy for the 725281th time? There need to be more people to help or with an opinon... Kante4 (talk) 14:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Continues on Neymar and editor don't join the discussion (Surprise...). Kante4 (talk) 16:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
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Gareth Bale
That is a news about Real winning the super cup. Which news will specifically mention "every player will get the honour"? You can't provide any legitimate reason and can only resort to sophistry? 七战功成 (talk) 18:08, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

If you are not too fool or completely blind, you should have seen the proof I provided before. It's not interesting to be perverse at all. 七战功成 (talk) 19:30, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

What's an "independent" source? According to you, any source provides evidence that's against your opinion is not independent. What I should say are all written down. Go read and remember rather than being perverse and repeat your ridiculous logics over and over again. 七战功成 (talk) 19:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

This question should be against you. "not published by either the player or his club". Is this your invention？Who cares if you are happy or not? What I know is what you can do is only being perverse. 七战功成 (talk) 19:50, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia policy says that, so what? The question is not whether the policy exists or not but its defintion and standard. Obviously, you are always using defintions and standards invented by you. “I'd have to say you're clearly not here to work collaboratively.”This is also against you. 七战功成 (talk) 20:20, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that
I'll check my settings. Dawnseeker2000 16:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

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