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Adnan Januzaj
Why isn't Adnan Januzaj notable? He won reserve player of the year award and has once been in the squad for a Premier League match. KOwool (talk) 15:08, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

The |stadium = parameter
I saw you removed the "|stadium =" parameter in CEDEAO Cup, for which I recently added details. Please do not do that because it results something that looks like this

Compare with this: (WITH void parameter |stadium =)

Also, when you use |penaltyscore =, but are not aware of the scorers, please add void parameters |penalties1= and |penalties2=, otherwise it will result in something like this:

FootballStatWhore (talk) 20:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Jeju is correct
I'm korean, When the 2002 FIFA World Cup, All the press and people said, Jeju Province held World Cup matches, We don't say, Swogwipo held the 2002 FIFA World Cup Jeju Province is very small island, Korean call Jeju island, Officially, refer to FIFA match report, not Swogwipo, Jeju http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=4395/results/matches/match=43950049/report.html Footwiks (talk) 12:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

[AC] Milan
To answer your question, because "Manchester United" is not ambiguous to uneducated readers, whereas "Milan" being AC Milan is only obvious (to non footie fans) by comparison to Inter Milan. In a related note, it's much easier to assume good faith when there's less sarcasm in your edit note ;o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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List of English football transfers summer 2013
Hello, I don't know why my version is a problem. My version is more detailed and shows all 92 football league clubs ins and outs and each teams section. I believe my version is better. It is used for transfers in the German transfers page, here. Skyblueshaun (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

handball disambiguation
Please have a look at Talk:Team handball. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 10:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Cricket deletion
Not you too! 92.0.100.251 (talk) 23:41, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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Template:1. FC Nürnberg squad
You moved Template:1. FC Nuremberg squad to Template:1. FC Nürnberg squad. While I am indifferent about the change itself, I think it is not good to be inconsistent with the club's main page 1. FC Nuremberg. Kq-hit (talk) 20:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Article titles clearly states that "Wikipedia prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources) as such names will be the most recognizable and the most natural." It goes on to say "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." So, why are you making an issue out of it? Kingjeff (talk) 21:18, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

You are comparing an actual policy with a guideline. The guideline and policy doesn't really agree. 21:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

But I don't believe the policy is wrong. Kingjeff (talk) 21:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

You must not be content to rule over people who edit English football articles. Now you want to rule over people who edit German football articles. Kingjeff (talk) 21:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you provide 10 sources that use the former? Kingjeff (talk) 21:48, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

1. FC Nuremberg's website doesn't count. It's their own website. Most of the websites you provided doesn't have the umlaut. Therefore, it's really Nuremberg as opposed to Nürnberg. Kingjeff (talk) 22:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Just noticed your edits. I've referred this to the project talk page to decide whether the main club page should be moved as well. J Mo 101 (talk) 22:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

It's not the same word. The Anglicized version of Nürnberg is Nuernberg, not Nurnberg. I'm not excessively concerned about anything. The issue is about you and getting more authority over others. Kingjeff (talk) 01:15, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Describing edit summaries.
Hello, I would just like to let you know if you looked at my contributions, near enough all my edits have been described and summarized. Skyblueshaun (talk) 17:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Your "pig-headed" comment
I don't think I was the one being "pig-headed." I don't think I have ever being wrong when dealing with you. In fact I think you're the one who needs an attitude adjustment. Kingjeff (talk) 18:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Saunders
Hello, long time no speak. Could you pop back and add a source for this, please. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll trust you. Another time, might be better to wait until there is something to link to, though. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:1. FC Nuremberg players to Category:1. FC Nürnberg players
Hi, as you requested the move of 1. FC Nuremberg to 1. FC Nürnberg, I wanted to inform you that I have requested a speedy renaming of Category:1. FC Nuremberg players to Category:1. FC Nürnberg players. The nomination can be found here. --Jaellee (talk) 17:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I completely forgot the other categories at first and when I remembered I saw that you had already done it. I hope that there is nothing else left which needs to be moved. --Jaellee (talk) 22:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

2013 UEFA Super Cup
Hello, I only do live updates on games that have their own article. Otherwise I wouldn't do live updates like this. Also live updates are always used in UEFA competitions by other users. Skyblueshaun (talk) 08:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Live Scores.
Hello, I need your help making people aware of not putting live scores on here. After being warned I have tried to warn others and get other people to wait until matches are over. Unfortunately I am not getting any luck getting through to them. Thanks Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Non-free images in rivalry articles
Sorry, I did not know that it is not right to use non-free images on the articles related to football derbies. I have realized my mistake and I would never do it again. When you have read this message, reply to me at my talk page. Thanks. Newestcastleman (talk) 05:42, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Troll blocked
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Live Scores.
Hello, User:Kirachinmoku is insisting that live scores is acceptable. Can you please acknowledge him that is is not acceptable. Thank you. Skyblueshaun (talk) 14:07, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

European winners templates
Hi PeeJay2K3, I hope you are doing fine. I am here to appeal your recent removing of replicated images from the winning tournament templates. It is permitted to create replica images on Wikipedia, and is actually the norm on Wikipedia for winning competition templates. And although it is unfortunate that you find them ugly, someone took a lot of time to create them and to contribute them to Wikipedia. Since these trophies fall in line with the normal layout for competition templates, I see no reason to remove these replicated images, unless you can come up with something better, otherwise I suggest keeping the trophies as a visual representation and identifier in the template. As is the case with all other international templates. (Seriously there around 20-30 of these templates all which include the trophy in the template, and you keep removing the trophies from three of them) we can open a discussion regarding these images, and debate their inclusion in the template. But if you continue to remove them from these three templates in question. European Cup and Champions League winners, UEFA Cup and Europa League winners and the UEFA Super Cup template, I will report this as vandalism. Please take the necessary steps of opening a discussion for removal of the images and go through the proper channels, if you feel you can argue a strong enough point which will lead to the removal of these images. But otherwise please refrain from removing them or I will report it. Thank you for you consideration, and have a nice day. Subzzee (talk) 14:53, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * - Hi Subzee. Before you go ahead and report PeeJay for vandalism, you should be aware of that this and this is also edit warring that might lead to a block. What you are doing right now, starting a discussion about the issue is exactly what you should do - and until a consensus is reached, neither of you should revert eachother. As a sidenote, I believe the image should be removed alonng with the flag, and I believe that is in line with MOS:ICONS which states that we shouldn't use too many icons because it clutters the page. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 13:52, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Mentoz86, thank you for taking your time to contribute to this discussion. I see your point with the flag indicators, but personally I disagree. I feel as though they are a great help in understanding the template better, and provide a visual key to organizing the various title winners, as well as contribute additional information pertaining to each title winner, also helping to serve as an identifier of sorts. It is applied in the sense that serves as showing of which country the title winner was a representative, and in that sense is in accordance to MOS:ICONS. The icons as well as the display of the replicated trophy is found on various templates for many sporting events, and I don't see why it should not be applied for footballing tournaments as well as currently is the case. This is actually how it is displayed for every tournament for every confederation, and I don't see why these three templates in question should not follow the same layout uniform to what can be considered a norm, for these sort of templates. I look forward to your responses. Best regards, Subzzee (talk) 17:21, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Using flags in that way, especially tiny flags, does however run counter to several points in the section MOS:ICONS, which says:
 * The name of a flag's country (or province, etc.) should appear adjacent to the first use of the flag icon, as virtually no readers are familiar with every flag, and many flags differ only in minor details. ... Use of flag templates without country names is also an accessibility issue, as it can render information difficult for color blind readers to understand. In addition, flags can be hard to distinguish when reduced to icon size. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:02, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If I can bring the discussion back to the original topic of the trophy images, those should definitely go. The trophies themselves are copyrighted works, and I would imagine even a drawing of their likeness is subject to that copyright. You could claim that this falls under Fair Use, but since the only reason I can see for them being there is decoration, any Fair Use claim would be invalid. As for the flags, they probably fall foul of MOS:ICON and should also be removed, as Struway and Mentoz have said. – PeeJay 17:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I do believe that the Fair use rationale applies to the trophies in the template, as it is mainly used to help identify the subject, and for education or informative purposes, and as there are no commercial intentions in their usage, they are not merely included for decor, but to help the reader identify the subject of the template and to help distinguish the various tournament winning temaplates from one another. I also believe this is the rationale that is applied for all other sports templates that include their trophies, and don't see why it should be any different for the football tournament winner templates. In regards to the flags, if anyone is unfamiliar with the flag they can simply click on it, and it brings the reader to the page of the country in question, it is also a visual aid and helps to identify the subject of which the flag is helping as an indicator. If you remove these visual identifiers, there is nothing left to help distinguish between the information in the data string, and you are left with nothing but names and numbers. Subzzee (talk) 12:21, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure identification of the subject only applies to articles, to avoid overuse of non-free images. By the way, thank you for notifying me about the other templates that include images of the trophies so that I can remove those images later too. As for the flags, why would you need to link to the clubs' countries from a navbox? That should be done from the main article, not a navbox designed to help you navigate between the members of the list. – PeeJay 22:35, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If you are looking at a team that has won every single trophy out there (yours has probably only won those three, because you left all the other navboxes alone), and you have that many boxes to navigate, they are all visual cues which help guide the user and make it more user friendly, it is information which helps to identify the target, as visual indicators, for both the icons as well as the image help to improve its use, it is good design, adheres to the rule of thirds. and I am pretty sure it will cause quite the stir if you decide to go and start altering all these navboxes from all these different sports (hockey, baseball, basketball, olympics,..). I am happy to see all your friends in your support, but maybe spark this debate in a more public setting so that others who might not frequent your talk page may be included in this discussion. Several users on wikipedia have created templates of this sort for various sports and it took a lot of time and effort, I would hope to find reason and to have acknowledged that there is no violation here. To remove something simply because you deem it "ugly" is not a very democratic approach nor is it very considerate, if you are going to "crusade" your way through all of these templates (good luck on all olympic navboxes), you might want to see how many objections, and how much approval there really is, because I disagree. Subzzee (talk) 3:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia policies trump "user friendliness" every time, so I think I would be well within my rights to remove any trophy images. I will begin my "crusade", as you call it, through the football articles, as I believe I have a decent amount of support from members of WP:FOOTY. Navboxes covered by other WikiProjects aren't my responsibility, so you lucked out there. – PeeJay 08:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

New Wales Coast Path WikiProject
I see you're a member of WikiProject Wales and have contributed to Welsh articles. There's a new project, Llwybrau Byw!|Living Paths! under development which you might be able to contribute to. Lonely Planet rated the coast of Wales "the best region on Earth" in 2012, yet there is a very low number of articles on the history and culture of places along the Coastal Path and the many and various activities and attractions. This promises to be an exciting project as it gathers momentum with many Users joining in. Let's make this WikiProject, like the path itself, the best on earth! Cymrodor (talk) 08:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand your edit summary
I notice you reverted some of my edits with the summary "bad categorisation", perhaps you could elaborate? Tim! (talk) 15:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You could have created a narrower category such as business ownership if you think it's too broad rather than just remove the category completely. Tim! (talk) 15:29, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

why do you keep editing the Ashley Young page?
Why do you keep removing the Ashley Young diving edit ? The edit is truthful and has full citation this is not a fan site and you should learn to live with the truth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathan Giles (talk • contribs) 18:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)


 * again this is not a fan site it is meant to be an informal and FACTUAL resource for people to gather verified information !! deleting these sections will not make the fact that this happened go away my Ashley young controversy section had two videos of both managers saying that they had spoken about diving to him please explain why you keep removing it?Nathan Giles (talk) 22:27, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

explain how the two managers explaining the situation is not a valid source how more valid can you get?Nathan Giles (talk) 22:36, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

would you be happier with this source? Nathan Giles (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I didn't mean to change any editing and I apologise if I did I am new to this .Maybe you should add the section? Is a news article from www.manutd.com and the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24105809 valid? I am only interested in the truth not trying to score points and I don't want to tread on anyone's toes perhaps you could advise me as to the best way to move forwards with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathan Giles (talk • contribs) 22:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

How about these articles ? http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/apr/16/ashley-young-dive http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/14/david-moyes-ashley-young-dive http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17770220 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24097097 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathan Giles (talk • contribs) 23:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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