User talk:Peersga

September 2013
Hello, I'm Cmr08. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Port Hawkesbury, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cmr08 (talk) 03:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did to Port Hawkesbury, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. All your sources show is that you are a professor, you still have not provided anything that shows why you are notable for this particular article. Since you're adding your name to Port Hawkesbury, I assume that's where you are from. If that's correct than provide sources that back up your inclusion in this article. I must ask, if you think you're notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia, why don't you have an article? Cmr08 (talk) 20:37, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

It's possible that I don't follow entirely what you mean by verifiable, because I think my credentials as an active scholar with an international reputation are clear from the websites I cite. The lack of an article on Wikipedia does not establish credentials in my profession. My name was added once to the list, and I put it back in, because in the first place, I'm proud of my roots, and in the second, because it seems important to me to indicate that professions are open to students in Port Hawkesbury that may not seem possible. Having an actor and a hockey player gives some sense of possibility, but limited ones in my opinion. Thanks for your kind attention. Peersga (talk) 01:41, 13 September 2013 (UTC) peersga


 * The reason these other people are mentioned is because their notability and connection to Port Hawkesbury are established by Wikipedia articles, while the sources you provided may show that you are notable, they did not establish your connection to Port Hawkesbury. You need sources that support inclusion in a particular article, and I don't doubt that's where you're from but verifiability is one of the core policies of Wikipedia, so just saying you are from Port Hawkesbury isn't enough to be added. As far as I can tell, establishing notability per WP:ACADEMIC is not as stringent as other professions, so if you can provide a source that clearly establishes connection to Port Hawkesbury article, then I won't revert as notability will likely be established. However, if I am misreading the policy, there is the possibility another editor may revert. I would however suggest you take a look at WP:COI policy, because it's usually not the best idea to add yourself to articles. Cmr08 (talk) 03:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Interesting: it never occurred to me someone would pretend to be from somewhere like Port Hawkesbury. Writing an article about myself and listing my hometown doesn't strike me as more verifiable, in principle. Not sure what is really at stake here, but point taken. All best Peersga (talk) 12:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC) peersga


 * For starters, I never asked you to write an article about yourself that listed your hometown. That would be against Wikipedia policy to begin with since were not supposed to write articles about ourselves. What I asked you to do was include a source that shows your connection to Port Hawkesbury, not because I don't believe you or that I think you might be pretending, but because that's Wikipedia policy. As I pointed out above, verifiability is one of the core principles of Wikipedia, meaning when adding information, you have to back the information up with reliable sources. You have provided sources that back up your claim of being notable, but if you want to add that information to the Port Hawkesbury article, sources have to be provided that support inclusion in that article. Cmr08 (talk) 00:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)