User talk:Penguin 236

Your signature
DYK: The talk page linked to in your signature is for User talk:Penguin 268 instead of User talk:Penguin 236. If that is intentional, then it violates WP:SIG and needs to be corrected ASAP; if it is unintentional, then...well, there ya go. Rgrds. --64.85.215.245 (talk) 15:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  21:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * For heaven's sake, could you please not use cyan in your signature? It's bloody impossible to read on a white background. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  03:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry it bothers you, I will change it. Could you recommend a bluish color? Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  23:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Try #0645AD. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  01:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Why have you nominated Newco Rangers for deletion?
Hi there. I'm surprised that Newco Rangers has been renominated for deletion less than a month after the previous nomination for deletion discussion closed with the conclusion 'keep'. You may be aware that many Rangers' supporters are in denial about what has happened to their club, and seriously object to the idea that a new article now exists for the new club that has been formed as its replacement. Editors who feel this strongly will just keep asking for the article to be deleted. Is there not a set minimum period of time specified before an article can be renominated for deletion? If not, then for as long as the result of the discussion is 'keep', the article will just keep being renominated. This is a real waste of everybody's time. Regards Fishiehelper2 (talk) 20:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I was not aware that an AfD had been opened recently. If I had, I probably would not have opened a new one. My sincerest apologizes. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  20:11, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

User:126.214.76.54
This user did not make any personal attacks. He was the victim of one which I removed from his talk page. The attacks came from User:69.233.3.181. I suggest you remove the warning from 126.214's talk page. Elizium23 (talk) 22:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Sorry about the mess. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  22:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

To minnow myself...

 * LOL, no worries. Elizium23 (talk) 22:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

edit conflict
So, you know what a edit conflict is, but then why did you also removed my report? mabdul 22:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops. Accidentaly pasted over your report. Whoops. Please feel free to emulate my actions in to above section. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  22:32, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Dispute resolution discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Robert Stinnett". Thank you.

I did explain my deletion. Didn't you read the talk page? I have submitted this content dispute for resolution.

Mondays are the best!
After reading your blog boxes I must interject with:


 * The best thing about Mondays is that it will be another whole seven days before it comes again!.

and


 * They tried to combine Country and Rap music. Your title tells the truth when they call it CRap.

Have a good one! 99.251.125.65 (talk) 23:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Removing AfD template
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Space adventure (Club Penguin Play). Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. This is an automated message from a bot about, where you removed the deletion template from an article before the deletion discussion was complete. If this message is in error, please report it. Snotbot  t &bull; c &raquo;  01:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Following on from your ANI report which has (correctly) been closed - you should not remove AfD templates from articles that are the subject of an ongoing discussion. You are welcome to add a speedy tag as well if you feel it is eligible, but not instead of. GiantSnowman 19:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. I'll heed it well. Tagging for A7. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  19:43, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there an apology in here somewhere for dragging me to ANI? Giant, it was already tagged for speedy deletion and declined by Crisco. Drmies (talk) 20:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * For future reference, Snotbot is a computer program. It doesn't understand English or ANI notices on its talk page.  Surely you noticed that User talk:Snotbot redirects to User talk:Scottywong, since you had to override that redirect to post the ANI notice on Snotbot's talk page.  Scottywong is a human who understands English and could have easily explained the situation to you without resorting to ANI.  It is highly encouraged that some level of discussion with a human takes place prior to the creation of an ANI thread.  Thank you.  -Scottywong | yak _  20:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I've made that mistake in the past, and I forget that bots don't have response programs. It's very hot here, perhaps my brain is overheating? Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  20:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Confirmation of alternate account
Hello! I am messaging you to confirm that the account I am editing from, User: Penguins in space, is a legitimate alternate account of you, User: Penguin 236, to be used on public computers for security reasons. Penguins in space (talk) 00:43, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am you and you are me. Confirmed. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  00:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

YRC's talk page
See WP:BLANKING and WP:DRC. Thanks, JoeSperrazza (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions?
Given the association/interest that I've detailed at ANI, and James Cantor's attempt to imply that he is uninvolved at RFC/U, how would you suggest I describe his interest/involvement? Please let me know if you would like additional details, diffs, etc. BitterGrey (talk) 02:33, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Your claim that Cantor is not uninvolved due to financial reasons is completely unfounded. You provide no evidence to support your claim except a theory. I suggest that you remove your statement and apologize to James Cantor. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  18:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Mass creation policy proposal
I was wondering if you'd added something, as you suggested you might at ANI. If not, you might hold off and we (and others) could bounce ideas around about what might actually get support. I think if you charge in with a blanket mass creation policy idea you might get shot down quickly, because this sort of thing's been proposed before.

I think there is a real need, or a balance, that can handle some of the problem versions of this, while allowing the ones that add monotonous stubs that provide framework for others to build on. The BOT approval group stuff is pretty on point, but that audience is generally too small to get everyone else to notice. There is already a policy against mass creation if it's semi-automated or automated, but I've never seen it enforced. The jaguar issue is such a clear cut example of it and even with that you can see the reluctance to chastise the editor or take action (even by me). And if you bring this up in a CSD or other deletion-oriented discussions you'll get an army of people who oppose any new restrictive policies about creation pretty fast. I've seen it happen.

My point is just that I think this stuff is tricky. I'd like to hear what you think about the topic Forming a good initial proposal I think would help chances of getting consensus for something that can cut down workload of fixing bad or inaccurate or otherwise worthless articles, while allowing accurate stubs to keep coming. Shadowjams (talk) 03:24, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I think that the policy shouldn't try to limit mass creation. It should outline what basic information must should be included. That information would be approximate size and population, and maybe state a dominant industry (farming, herding, fishing) if possible. Hopefully that clears up somethings. P.S. Thanks for the advice. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  19:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I think dictating specific content requirements will be difficult. The fundamental problem is that there are hundreds of databases of place names (or geographical features, or whatever) spread around, and it's simple for someone to put them into excel and copy paste a template out at high speed. That doesn't even begin to address people who can program. And in all of those cases, each page only consists of a few pieces of data. The problem is made worse when that data is unreliable. My initial thought is that any creation of a series of articles from a source like that needs to have bot approval, or perhaps some other kind of approval mechanism in place. Making a discernible criteria is tricky. Shadowjams (talk) 23:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Unwarranted baiting
This is not appropriate. Please remove it before you cause the matter to escalate further. &mdash; Coren (talk) 02:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Now now, no need to get into a tizzy. Calling my post "unwarranted baiting" is a bit syruplike. I merely was trying to add some humor to the headache of Youreallycan. Nevertheless, I don't want to offend you or YRC. Removing the comment as we speak. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  03:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. &mdash; Coren (talk) 03:11, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * (By the way, be wary: that much dyclonine is bad for you). :-)  &mdash; Coren (talk) 03:45, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for you!
Posting at ANI accusing someone of "personal attacks", for them having posted (also at ANI) "he is just rude", is a bit silly.

I also often have the urge to post such things at ANI... I try to deal with it by just not posting anything. Sometimes, I succeed. I wish you good fortune in joining me in this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:48, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Uh,

 * The way en Wiki is violated

Addition by an account without a single post for eight months - Hughes was arrested in London in August 2012 and is expected to be extradited to Australia. - User:PurpleWyrm - Opinon without any long term value in reality presented to the www as if truth without even any attribution that it is unlikely at all and pure POV biased opinion - I would say a checkuser would attach it to another account - but such is the way the en wikipedia appears to work -  You  really  can  02:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Uh, PurpleWyrm looks pretty decent, for your information. Trying to base accusations on one edit, especially with an editor who has had no issues and appear to be here constructively, it just makes you look petty. Very petty. You're an experienced editor, so I am sure you have read WP: BATTLEGROUND, but after seeing this, I would advise you to take a look at it once more. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  02:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi - as per my talkpage headers I have removed your comment - closed the discussion and moved your comment to your own talkpage - thanks - You  really  can  02:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, this discussion can successfully fizzle out on my island of a talk page. Thanks! ;) Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  02:30, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Weird but after this he just posted on his talk page thanks fr the update". Incidentally his civlity shows no sign of changingLihaas (talk) 03:15, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

ANi Comments
Can you please provide some evidence of me "taking nasty swipes" at User:FerrerFour I have provided details diffs of their personal uncivil comments they have just provided an opinion. FerrerFour has stated that I am in incompetent on the ANI page as pointed out by another user multiple times Could you please show me some diffs where I have taken "nasty swipes" at User:FerrerFour? At the moment I am getting the feeling that as FerreFour has thrown enough Mud he has managed to avoid the substantive issue which has been evidenced from being addressed and has managed to get away with making unsubstantiated claims against me. Sport and politics (talk) 10:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No use. By the time I got home, it was too late, they closed the discussion already. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  23:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

ANI on ANI
Your judgement was not correct. -DePiep (talk) 00:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Robbie, stop it. You are not helping. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. (Robbie is the penguin then) -DePiep (talk) 00:47, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * To follow up: DePiep is upset, so is perhaps not being wise about this, but he has about 100x your experience here, and using templates warning him about personal attacks makes you look foolish. (WP:DNTTR). You do not seem to understand what a personal attack is, so please stop warning people about it until you are clearer about it yourself.  I'm not sure you'll listen to this, but I really suggest you spend less time at ANI. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:55, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No. Sorry, I have to disagree. The editor who posts emotional rants on WP: ANI asking to block a perfectly good administrator (complete with NPA/CIV violations), then edit wars, has about 10% experience. But, I have had enough prejudice about age to disregard your claims of experience. However, in calling me "foolish", I am very tempted to take both of you back to ANI and question your behavior. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  01:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that would kind of prove my point. Please at least read WP:NPA first. I'm curious where I said anything about age, too. When I say "experience", I mean "Knowing what you are doing.  Having clue.  Having been around a while. Having 34,000 edits vs. having 420." --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Asking a 6 month ban for Nyttend was a joke. Just to get attention from ANI-admins. My main issue is that my well described topic was archived by bot -- before closing. -DePiep (talk) 01:55, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification. It's not a personal attack, but fake attempts to get people blocked are definitely disruptive.  Nyttend (talk) 02:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, N, again. Next time I'll ask 12 months to make the joke ... (I won't). My carefull ANI ended up strange. -DePiep (talk) 02:19, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Again you say "troll". You suggest "If it was a bot, you could even be bold and restore it.". Did not I do that? Again you claim that other's behaviour is my cause and problem. It is not. Whatever you are, you are not my co-editor. -DePiep (talk) 02:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right. You're not my co-editor. I didn't care about your edits before your little incident. I still don't care about your discussions, or your interests. No, my problem is that you continue to think that your block request was a joke. Blocks are not jokes. By trying to seek attention with your block request, you escalated a fairly simple matter. You disrupted everyone here, Me, Ny, Floquen and Bbb23. At least acknowledge your actions instead of shrugging them off. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  02:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

A. -DePiep (talk) 02:47, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know you reverted Mizabot. Up to that point you were golden. Then (and here is where the problem lays), instead of discussing the thread with ESAL, you tried to get your point across by disrupting. That is your mistake. That is what I have been trying to tell you. Do you see now? Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  02:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, then ESAL reverted me: B. But at least ESAL assumed good faith. -DePiep (talk) 03:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * True, and he was right to do so. I would have done the same. The good faith stops when you try to disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point. I agree with your action until you violated WP: POINT. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  03:13, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You are shifting position. Now exactly when or where did I do that point thing? My question: did I not ask for a closure? -DePiep (talk) 03:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You violated WP: POINT when you made your block "joke". You tried to prove a point by disrupting Wikipedia. The discussion is not what you did before or after your block joke. I don't care about the Mizsabot revertion, nor will I respond to any more queries on it. The discussion is on the block joke and how it was wrong. Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  03:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * AGF would have helped you here too, and maybe even give you a laugh. -DePiep (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind. -DePiep (talk) 23:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Blocked
Well there we go, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=507111715#Unban_request_of_User:_Shakinglord unban request denied], account blocked. CharlieEchoTango ( contact ) 23:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that's that. I'm blocked. My attempt to appease you has evidently failed. I suppose now is the time to start hitting Negapedia. There I can continue my quest for Wikipedia without the interference of some very bureaucratic and outrageous editors. By supporting my ban, you are effectively supporting the copy of every single Wikipedia page (including your own user pages) to Negapedia. And if I EVER catch any of you on Negapedia, I will handle you in the same manner that you have handled me here., with extreme prejudice. Perhaps you will laugh about blocking me in the future, when trolls stop coming here and start going to Negapedia. Adieu, my good friends, I will always love you! Robby The Penguin   (talk)   (contribs)  23:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * If you want to take our trolls, you can have them. Also please mind that the WMF will no doubt take a dim view of the copyright infringement you're proposing. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No doubt, extreme copyright infringement. From an uninvolved editor's point of view, I don't think that anybody here was very bureaucratic or outrageous. Yes, some people were by the books, but we cannot unblock you because 1) You are still banned, and you'll have to file an unblock request from your previous account, Shakinglord 2) You're still a sock of an indeffed user, and nothing changes the fact, even if you're a good hand sock 3) You've been lying to us, and I understand why you'd do this, but still, you've broken our trust.   Thekillerpenguin     (talk)   01:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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