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Question from DESI BOY 420 (15:24, 2 July 2022)
How can I join WikiProject? --DESI BOY 420 (talk) 15:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! You can join a WikiProject by adding your name to its list of members. For example, WikiProject Football has its list of members here. Each WikiProject typically has access to its member list on its main project page. Some also have userboxes you can add to your userpage to automatically categorize it. Hope this helps! Perfect4th (talk) 16:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from DESI BOY 420 (03:07, 3 July 2022)
Sir can you move this page from draft to main article -- AKS HIT. EDITOR 03:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, ! Looks like another editor has already done so. Good work so far! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 12:15, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ratandutta786 (04:38, 5 July 2022)
Jindagi mein kuchh Bankar dikhana hai vahi rasta hai Mera Wikipedia --Ratandutta786 (talk) 04:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I unfortunately don't speak that language. You may want to try another language Wikipedia, such as this one. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 14:35, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #21
Welcome to the twenty-first newsletter from the Growth team!

New project: Positive reinforcement

 * The Growth team started a new project: Positive reinforcement. We want newcomers to understand there is an interest in regularly editing Wikipedia, and we want to improve new editor retention.
 * We asked users from Arabic, Bangla, Czech and French Wikipedia about their feedback. Some people participated at mediawiki.org as well.
 * We summarized the initial feedback gathered from these community discussions, along with how we plan to iterate based on that feedback.
 * The first Positive Reinforcement idea is a redesign of the impact module: incorporating stats, graphs, and other contribution information. This idea received the widest support, and we plan to start our work based on the design illustrated on the side.
 * Please let us know what you think of this project, in any language.

For mentors

 * We have worked on two new features, to inform them about the mentorship:
 * In the Mentor module, we now provide more information about the public nature of the mentors/newcomer relationship and the fact that talk pages are public.
 * We now allow newcomers to opt-in and opt-out of mentorship.

Scaling

 * "Add a link" available at more wikis ― Add a link feature has been deployed to more wikis: . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure locally how this feature works.
 * "Add an image" available at more wikis ― Add an image feature will be deployed to more wikis: . These communities will be able to configure locally how this feature works.

Suggested edits

 * Selecting topics ― We have created an "AND" filter to the list of topics at Special:Homepage. This way, newcomers can decide to select very specific topics ("Transportation" AND "Asia") or to have a broader selection ("Transportation" OR "Asia"). At the moment this feature is tested at pilot wikis.
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 * Community configuration ― We allow communities to set a maximum number of links per article via Special:EditGrowthConfig.
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Community configuration
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Thank you for reverting the vandalism on the Robb elementary school shooting
Thank you for reverting the vandalism on the Robb elementary school shooting, i clicked on a wiki link to that page and saw someone type that the shooter fortunatly shot 19 spic children and 2 WHITE teachers as he should. That was clearly unacceptable and was about to revert it myself and then refreshed and it was already reverted. Cheers

LfcFan1212 (talk) 20:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC) 


 * Thanks for your message and the kitten, LfcFan1212! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 20:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Tinaschultz6-2-68 on Texas's 16th congressional district (01:37, 7 July 2022)
Hello! I’m wondering with the recent Supreme Court ruling about abortion I realize everyone should be sensitive no matter how you feel about it. I watch some shows on the cable channel TVLND in the early evening. I have noticed the past two evenings a commercial that has been shown from a pro- life group called Focus on the Family that shows a baby womb and babies, says unltrasounds change minds. I believe everyone has their own choice. What I don’t think is right, is this commercial to be shown on a family channel when young kids are still awake. --Tinaschultz6-2-68 (talk) 01:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I'm aware there are a lot of different feelings about the subject around the country – it can be quite an exercise in keeping a neutral point of view. I can’t speak to your specific issue, but if you have any questions about editing Wikipedia, I’d be happy to help. Best, Perfect4th (talk) 04:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi Perfect4th. After reviewing your request, I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3APerfect4th enabled] rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! F ASTILY  07:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle or RedWarn.
 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

Question from DESIULTRA (15:01, 9 July 2022)
How can I add a page image on a Wikipage? -- AKS HIT. EDITOR 15:01, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * , Help:Pictures explains how to add an image into an article. If you want to add an image that's not yet on Wikimedia Commons (a sister website hosting pictures), Uploading images has an explanation. You can also check out Image use policy (policies about using images) and Manual of Style/Images (describes the context you should use images in). In short, there's a lot to consider when adding an image, but once you've done it a few times it becomes easier. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 15:09, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Wintermuet (14:18, 18 July 2022)
I have a question regarding high resolution image presentation.

I've noticed on many high resolution map images that there is no way to zoom in enough to read the key on the map image. Is there a solution to this confusing problem or would it be appropriate to start updating these images? After all, what use is an unreadable map? --Wintermuet (talk) 14:18, 18 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I haven't worked a lot with images, but it is definitely desirable to be able to read the map. You should be able to click on Wikipedia photos to enlarge them. There's also a WikiProject dedicated to making Wikipedia maps easier to read – if you have a question, you can probably get good help on the project talk page. Hope this helps! Perfect4th (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem is that when I click on the image it only enlarges to the size of my window, and doesn't allow me to look at it in its largest resolution. It's an auto-resize feature that prevents me from making it larger than the window even if the image is far larger than any reasonably browser window.
 * Anyways, thanks for the info, I'll go check it out! Wintermuet (talk) 05:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from 101CC (23:37, 18 July 2022)
What Can I use Wikipedia For? --101CC (talk) 23:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia intended to have information in pretty much all fields of knowledge. You can learn about all sorts of different topics from their respective articles, which are written by Wikipedia's users. There are policies and guidelines to help out with this. I'll put some links on your talk page to get you started. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 00:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Aditraghav on User:Aditraghav/sandbox (14:06, 19 July 2022)
U have deleted my page --Aditraghav (talk) 14:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! It looks like your sandbox draft was deleted by an administrator for lack of notability. Notability is one of Wikipedia's core content principles. Unlike on social media and other sites, articles in Wikipedia have to have had significant coverage in reliable sources that are unrelated to the subject. In other words, a person shouldn't have an article until multiple reliable people/organizations unconnected to that person write about them. If an article cannot demonstrate notability, I'm sorry, but it should not be on Wikipedia at that time. (Note that sometimes it is simply too soon, and the right time may come later.) You may find an alternative outlet would work better for your purposes. You are, of course, also welcome to contribute to Wikipedia in other ways as well. Hope this helps, Perfect4th (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Pramit004 on Haldia Institute of Technology (03:18, 20 July 2022)
How to add picture in a page? --Pramit004 (talk) 03:18, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! This page explains how to add an image into an article. If you want to add an image that's not yet on Wikimedia Commons (a sister website hosting pictures), this has an explanation for that. You can also check out these image policies and this, which describes the context you should use images in. In short, there's a lot to consider when adding an image, but once you've done it a few times it becomes easier. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 13:48, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Claybox (03:29, 27 July 2022)
Hello mentor, I wonder how to add a cite note for a company. Actually I did it in this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorized_scooter, but it was deleted. but when the link was deleted, I didn't receive any notice. And I wonder if it will affect my WIKI account or IP address Hope to hearing from your advice. --Claybox (talk) 03:29, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! A user removed your edits because of concerns that they seemed a bit promotional, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. The website of a company heavily involved in that profession will likely have bias in that area, which makes the source less reliable and more likely to just be trying to make the company look good. That's why it's better to add sources that are independent, which helps keep the article neutral. Sources closely affiliated with a company in a profession are more often primary sources, which can be used in some cases but are not good for all cases. You did format the reference correctly, though, you just need to use a more independent source. As for affecting your account, there shouldn't be a problem – all of us have made mistakes or misunderstood something on Wikipedia at some point in time. The important thing is to listen when someone explains what the problem is, ask questions if more clarification is necessary, and learn how to avoid that mistake in the future. You seem to be doing pretty well at that. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any more questions! Perfect4th (talk) 14:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi mentor, I know the sources important. And I found pages on some sources that marked “may earn an affiliate commission”. This source will be removed even if it does not receive any sponsorship, right? And I read some about Wikipedia notability and found about Product Reviews can be a source but I don't know how to judge if these review sources are suitable to be cited. As I mentioned above, some sources gain affiliate commission, even though it is a reliable source. I wonder if I can find some review sources without any commission or interests to cite. Claybox (talk) 07:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It looks like the pages marked as possibly earning an affiliate commission are independent of Wikipedia, and I doubt they would be considered reliable sources, so they would probably be removed. That section about product reviews in the notability policy is mainly geared towards explaining how they can contribute to the notability of a product, but the guidelines there for using them are still helpful: A product review should be significant, independent, and reliable. If you haven't already read the reliable sources policy, you should go ahead and at least skim it; it has a lot of good information about how to determine what sources are good (or at least better). This section of that policy lists some ways to find sources. Hope this helps! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 15:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Sweet hopemc (07:51, 29 July 2022)
How do I make my own page? --Sweet hopemc (talk) 07:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Creating an encyclopedia article is very difficult on Wikipedia, especially for newcomers, because there are a lot of policies that have to be followed. Wikipedia articles have to be about notable subjects (subjects that have received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources), have to be verifiable (the information in the article should be traceable to its sources), and should be written in a neutral point of view (neither try to look the subject look good nor bad, but simply report facts as indicated by the sources). Because there's a lot that goes into creating an article, it's recommended newcomers start with other contributions and get a better handle on how the encyclopedia works prior to creating one (you can find some editing suggestions on your homepage). If you still would like to create an article, you should keep the three policies I linked you to earlier (notability, verifiability, and neutrality/neutral point of view) in mind and read this page, which guides you through creating an article. Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 14:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Satyakiporus (18:21, 30 July 2022)
Can you earn through Wikipedia. --Satyakiporus (talk) 18:21, 30 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Wikipedia editors are almost exclusively volunteers, and Wikipedia does not compensate editors for their work on the encyclopedia. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 23:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Brebis Blanche (11:22, 1 July 2022)
Hello, I am now translating an article "LUMOS Orchestra" from Ukrainian into English. However, I am not allowed to publish it. Please advise. --Brebis Blanche (talk) 11:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello,, and welcome to the English Wikipedia! I'm struggling to find the article in Ukrainian and I'm not seeing any other contributions from your account. Could you link the article? You might also be having issues because your account is not yet autoconfirmed. This means you can't yet publish articles directly, but you can put them through the Articles for Creation process, which can put them in main space for you once at article standard. Hope that helps! I'll also put some links on your talk page to help you get started. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 12:28, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I am working in the translation tool here, what should be my next steps in this case? Brebis Blanche (talk) 13:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah,, your issue is that the English Wikipedia requires accounts to be extended confirmed to use the translation tool, which means your account has to have existed for thirty days and have made 500 edits. I think the reason this is in place is to ensure that users get a better feel for the en.wiki's policies and guidelines – writing an article is one of the most difficult things to do, and translating an article is not unlike writing a new one in that different wikis have different guidelines and requirements for articles. Translation has instructions for translating other articles for the English wiki; note that translated articles must still meet the notability guideline and follow other relevant policies. Since your account is not autoconfirmed yet, you would need to put the article though Articles for Creation. Otherwise, you can make other edits to gain more experience and come back to translating the article with this tool when you are extended confirmed. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. The article draft was posted and submitted for review.Draft:LUMOS Orchestra
 * How do I approve it and cross-link it with the original article in Ukrainian? https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumos_Orchestra Brebis Blanche (talk) 07:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * My bad,, I somehow missed this message when I first logged on today amongst the others. The draft will be reviewed by an Articles for Creation reviewer once it is submitted. It doesn't look like it is yet, however – click the blue 'Submit the draft for review!' button to do so. Usually the result of the review will be put on the author's user talk page, but I'm not sure whether it would be on yours if you submit the draft since a different account wrote the draft. As for the interlanguage links, as far as I can tell they are added once the draft has been accepted and moved to article space. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 20:52, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, Perfect4th, the article about LUMOS Orchestra has been declined as it is linked to the orchestra's social network pages and the editor believes that the author is partial. However, the article contains only facts, no promotion. How can this issue be fixed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LUMOS_Orchestra Brebis Blanche (talk) 10:36, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi again, ! Looks like there have been two comments from more experienced editors. VersaceSpace mentioned the issues about the social media links and paid editing (with more discussion on Wldfaclon's talk page, which also has the decline reason as that editor submitted the draft). However, the declining editor was Jamiebuba, who declined because the editor felt the sources you used did not establish notability. This is absolutely essential for an article to become an article; if you can show that something is notable enough for an article, it can always be improved, but notability cannot be gotten if you don't have it (here's is the general notability guideline). However, LUMOS Orchestra may be notable; you just need to make sure you are providing the sources that establish notability (you can take a look at the notability guideline for musicians). Hope this helps! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 14:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for such detailed explanation, I appreciate it! However, do the notability guidelines for musicians also apply to orchestras? That is kind of different from bands and solo artists; mostly orchestras are not played over the radio or record albums. Brebis Blanche (talk) 14:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The category says it applies to orchestras; not all of the notability criteria will apply to the orchestra, of course, but it looks like some of them can apply (such as 1, 7, 11, and 12). Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 17:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Silvernomushi (12:10, 2 August 2022)
hello..how can i write about my youtube channel? --Silvernomushi (talk) 12:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, . I'm afraid I have bad news: you shouldn't. Wikipedia considers that promotion, and it's not allowed. If you are notable by Wikipedia's definition, or become so in the future, it is possible that someone else might write an article about you; however, that article would have to follow Wikipedia's content policies. In other words, the article would have to be written based on what reliable sources say, and would have to be neutral; you don't have control over an article about you (see An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing). You are welcome to contribute to Wikipedia in other ways, though. Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions! Best, Perfect4th (talk) 14:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

MultiSide
MultiSide ni channel ya YouTube ya kitanzania ambayo inajihusisha na uchapishaji au utoaji wa video mbali mbali za kuelimisha,video za kuelekeza, video za watoto,habari mbalimbali,makala za watu maarufu na makala za kustaajabisha.inamilikiwa na @Silvernomushi link ya channel hii https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsd0hsuos0iKInALtI6qcjQ Silvernomushi (talk) 12:56, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for catching that rollback on Radical Feminism, I misclicked and approved it by mistake instead of reverting it like I should have. I was about to revert the edit and write a note but you beat me to it. Good eye and quick response!

 Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 23:42, 11 August 2022 (UTC) 


 * Thanks, Dr vulpes, and thanks for what you do to improve the encyclopedia as well! It is much appreciated. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 02:20, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from SamratMT (11:43, 14 August 2022)
Ho w to publish an article of a person? --SamratMT (talk) 11:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Creating a new Wikipedia article is one of the hardest things for a newcomer to do on Wikipedia, as there are a lot of policies and guidelines that apply. New articles have to be about subjects that are notable by Wikipedia's definition, have to be verifiable (backed up by reliable sources), and must be written in a neutral tone, as well as conforming to stylistic policies and similar. Creating an article for a person is even harder, as it has to follow a higher standard than other articles. It's a lot easier to gain some experience editing Wikipedia and getting a feel for how the project works first before creating an article. My apologies if this is discouraging, but a lot of newcomers have jumped right into creating an article and had a difficult experience because they weren't familiar with what should go into creating an article. If you'd still like to work on one, you should read the content guidelines I linked you to, as well as Your First Article. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 12:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ajgerim.batyrova
Hello ! I’m new in Wikipedia. And now my article is under deletion Mikheil Lomtadze I made a translation from Russian wikipedia. Could you please help me to go through this procedure? How do I need to write justification? How to make clear my good intention? Could you please adopt me? And teach me how to do my best? Im from Kazakhstan and it’s pretty hard to explain features of our region. Ajgerim.batyrova (talk) 16:49, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! The article is being considered for deletion via Articles for Deletion (often abbreviated AfD), a process that typically lasts for seven days where editors discuss whether the article belongs in Wikipedia or not. The article looks like it was created once before (in March of this year), and editors found several problems with it, not least because it was not notable by Wikipedia's definition. The concern about the current article is that the problems with the first edition of the article have not been resolved. This is the first discussion about deleting the article; it lists the problems editors found with the article. You can contribute to the AfD (which is here). You should first read this guide to discussion in AfDs; this guide might also be helpful. Basically, deletion comments include a) what should happen to the article (keep, delete, merge, etc.), and b) why. If you think the article should be kept, you should explain exactly why the article meets Wikipedia's policies (including notability – here's a specific guideline it needs to meet). Keep in mind, though, that several other experienced editors have already looked at the article and commented on the AfD and think it doesn't meet the necessary guidelines, so it will likely be difficult for the article to pass the necessary guidelines. If any of this is confusing or you have any other questions, feel free to ask me! I know this can be difficult; creating a new article is one of the hardest things for a newcomer to do on Wikipedia, and many editors recommend working on improving other articles first in order to get a feel for Wikipedia policies before you take on the task of creating a new article. Making sure you understand comments and information from other experienced editors (such as the advice Deb gave you on your talk page) will go a long way towards helping you figure out what you're doing. The good news is there are a lot of other ways you can contribute without creating new articles. Again, feel free to let me know if you have any questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 17:28, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This article might be of use as well. Perfect4th (talk) 22:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello ! I'm really grateful to your yesterdays response and all the links that you provided. A really appreciate your help.

One user wrote in the discussion "The absence of language versions does not inspire confidence, significance is not shown." What did he mean by that? Ajgerim.batyrova (talk) 15:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , it's possible that the editor meant they thought there were no other language Wikipedias with articles on the subject; adding the Russian language Wikipedia article you translated this from to the sidebar might be helpful for editors. I'm not entirely sure, though; the editor could have meant something else. You can always ask for clarification on the user's talk page if you like, just remember to be polite! (Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes, like this: ~ ). Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 14:11, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your help Ajgerim.batyrova (talk) 15:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * , of course, and let me know if you have any more questions! Perfect4th (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello ! Sorry to bother you! If I display Mikhail Lomtadze's articles on the language panel from other Wikipedia, is it allowed if the article is being deleted? Ajgerim.batyrova (talk) 04:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)


 * , I'm not sure what you mean by 'display', but you are allowed to keep improving an article during an AfD, so yes, you can link other languages' Wikipedia articles to the English language article. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 13:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Zion Lights
I have restored the edit on her page which you auto-corrected - please see her Talk page for my explanation of why I made the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.208.210.182 (talk) 20:24, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks! Perfect4th (talk) 20:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Back on the program
Just dropped by to see if you're still with me. Based on the accolades on your UTP, it appears you've been quite productive making good things happen. I'd like to channel some of that energy to NPPSCHOOL so you can get busy helping with our backlog. Are you still game?  Atsme 💬 📧 22:54, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I am,, my apologies for being a bit slow. I've been working through the notability policy and I'm trying to ensure I'm being thorough, but starting tomorrow I should hopefully have a bit more time to be able to devote to it. Perfect4th (talk) 01:52, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Do you remember where your personal training page is located in my subpages?  Atsme 💬 📧 02:41, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yup, heading that way now! Perfect4th (talk) 15:55, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Adoptee - Jadedhippo
Hello, ! I hope you’re well. I am relatively new to editing Wikipedia, and am looking for someone to adopt me. I noticed we have some overlapping interests, so I wanted to reach out to see if you’d be willing to adopt me. My subjects of interest include sports (mostly football), biographies, and business (supply chain management), along with a host of random subjects. I’d also like to gain experience in copy-editing and see that you are a member of the Guild of Copy Editors. Please let me know if you’re still available and are willing to adopt me! Thank you! Jadedhippo (talk) 20:08, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I am indeed willing and available, ! I've put an adoption userbox on your userpage. Feel free to ask me questions any time; I usually answer within a few hours. If I'm not available, the Teahouse is helpful for new users, and WikiProjects and the Guild of Copy Editors also have talk pages if you have questions about issues related to their subjects (you may have found them, but here are the talk page links: football, biographies, business, and GOCE) . Stop by any time, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 22:26, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! I am excited to learn under your tutelage! Jadedhippo (talk) 00:47, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, ! Do you have any advice on how I can get more involved with the Football WikiProject? I'd like to be a regular contributor to the project (even if it's only in small/minor ways), but am struggling with finding opportunities to do so. Is there a specific area of expertise that you have when contributing to that project? Thanks in advance, and enjoy the weekend! Jadedhippo (talk) 02:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * , there are a number of ways you can get involved; it really depends on what you want to do. I mostly do copyediting and de-orphaning, typically on orphaned articles I come across, but many articles can also do with expansion (check the assessment table on the project page for articles that could do with some work.) If you prefer, you can focus on an article (or a few) and improve them as much as you can. I've been working on Mario Gómez and Manuel Neuer in this fashion and have had a peer review for the former in order to better improve it. Also, the project talk page often has discussions including things that need to be done, such as this discussion. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC) (relinked to archived discussion on 20:09, 8 August 2022 (UTC))
 * Thanks . I'll read through the pages you've linked and start contributing to the project! Jadedhippo (talk) 15:03, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! Just wanted to provide a quick update based on the guidance you provided. I think I'll go through new articles that have been created under the Football WikiProject and look for ways to improve them (grammar, citations, adding pertinent information). I've already started with that (and saw that you thanked me for one of the articles!). I also reached out to GiantSnowman (they asked for help in the discussion you linked above) and offered to support them. Jadedhippo (talk) 02:18, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello,. Long time no talk! Hope you're doing well. As I mentioned earlier, I am interested in getting more involved in the GOCE and wanted to get your guidance on if you think it would be a good idea to get involved in Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September 2022 as an introduction to CE. I haven't participated in any drives so I'm not sure if this is too advanced for a beginner such as myself. Also, would it be appropriate to add my name to the GOCE participants list and add the tag to my userpage? I'm not sure if it's poor etiquette since I haven't directly contributed to the GOCE community yet. Looking forward to hearing from you! Jadedhippo (talk) 22:47, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello again, ! Yes, feel free to participate in the backlog elimination drive. If you're feeling unsure about your copy editing skills, you should check out the Basic copyediting guide first, and you can also wait to copy edit requests until you've gotten a little more experience if you like. The drives are just a focused push to try to lessen the backlog; any help is welcome. And sure, feel free to add your name to the list of participants as well! Happy (copy)editing! Perfect4th (talk) 23:03, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! I'll check out the links and get started on the backlog elimination drive! Jadedhippo (talk) 23:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from ScR0ts on Proposed states and union territories of India (11:53, 19 September 2022)
Hello

Who is the dali lama? --ScR0ts (talk) 11:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I assume you're talking about the Dalai Lama; the current one appears to be Tenzin Gyatso. I didn't know that; I looked it up in the article about the Dalai Lama. Such Wikipedia articles are written and improved by editors just like you and me. Let me know if you have any questions about editing Wikipedia! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #22


Welcome to the twenty-second newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomers tasks reach the 500,000 edits milestone — more data publicly available
As of the last week of June 2022, the newcomers of the world have completed over 500,000 newcomer tasks. In other words, newcomers have made over half a million Wikipedia edits via Growth’s “Suggested Edits” module.
 * About 30% of those edits were completed on mobile devices.
 * Usage continues to increase; in June 2022 almost 50,000 newcomer tasks were completed.

We have added some new data to Grafana. You can now check the number of edits and reverts by task types, or the number of questions asked to mentors. You can filter the data by wiki.

If you have any questions, or there is more data you want access to, please let us know.

Ongoing projects and explorations


We are continuing our work on our new project, Positive Reinforcement. User testing of initial Positive Reinforcement designs was just completed. Interviews were conducted in Arabic, English, and Spanish. The outcome has been published on the Positive Reinforcement page. We are now utilizing user testing feedback along with prior community feedback to iterate and improve designs.

We are exploring the idea of a Copy Edit structured task. We have tested copy edits in Wikipedia articles for arwiki, bnwiki, cswiki, eswiki (Growth pilot-wikis) and enwiki with two different methods: LanguageTool and Hunspell. We will share more details here and on the associated Copy Edit page once the evaluation is complete.

Add an image was utilized at GLAM events in Argentina, Mexico, and Chile. For an overview of what was learned from these events, read: #1Pic1Article I: how Latin American heritage experts added images to Wikipedia (in English).

Experiments analysis
Add a Link Experiment Analysis has been published. The most important points are:
 * Newcomers who get the Add a Link structured task are more likely to be activated (i.e. make a constructive first article edit).
 * They are also more likely to be retained (i.e. come back and make another constructive article edit on a different day).
 * The feature also increases edit volume (i.e. the number of constructive edits made across the first couple weeks), while at the same time improving edit quality (i.e. the likelihood that the newcomer's edits aren't reverted).

Newcomer task edit type analysis has been published.
 * Communities had expressed concern that newcomers whose initial edits were structured tasks wouldn’t go on to learn how to complete more difficult tasks. The Growth team data scientist conducted a Newcomer task edit type analysis to see if this was indeed the case.
 * Results from analysis indicate that this likely isn’t a significant concern. More than 70% of users who start with the easy task "Add a link" also make another task type. Read the full analysis and methodology here.

News for mentors
A new system for the mentors list

The configuration of the mentors list will change over the next weeks. In the future, mentors will sign up, edit their mentor description and quit using Special:MentorDashboard. This new system will make the development of new features for mentors much easier.

At the moment, the mentor list is a simple page anyone can edit, unless it’s protected. With the new page, mentors will be able to edit only their own description, while administrators will be able to edit the entire mentors' list if needed.

The deployment will happen first at the pilot wikis, then at all wikis. Existing lists of mentors will be automatically converted, no action will be needed from the mentors. 

Mentors will be informed about the next steps soon, by a message posted on the talk page of existing Mentor lists.

Learn more about this new structured page on mediawiki.org.

A tip for mentors

Did you know that mentors can filter their mentees' changes at Special:MentorDashboard (and star the ones that require attention)? This feature helps to keep an eye on newcomers' edits, helping mentors to fix minor details, and encourage them if necessary.

And did you know that mentors have special filters to highlight their mentees' edits at Special:RecentChanges? Look for the following filters in RecentChanges:,.

Other improvements

Some improvements will be made to the mentor dashboard in the coming weeks:


 * While we now offer some options for mentors to take a break, the option to quit mentoring was not easy to find. This will be improved.
 * Mentors at wikis using FlaggedRevisions will have a way to discover their mentees' pending edits.
 * Dashboard discovery for new mentors will be improved.

Recent changes and fixed bugs

 * We moved to a new Image Suggestions API. This new API will allow us to deploy Add an Image to more wikis.
 * Starting September 19, a few more wikis now offer Add an image to newcomers. These wikis are, , , ,.
 * Add an image has been disabled for a few days due to technical issue. "Add an image" added a blank line instead of an image. This has been fixed.
 * In order to know if Special:EditGrowthConfig is used by communities, we now instrument page loads and saves of configuration.

Have a question? A suggestion?
Please let us know! You can also read our FAQ page.

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Question from VarunaP (07:25, 29 September 2022)
Hello, I need to create a bio page for my CEO --VarunaP (talk) 07:25, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, !
 * It sounds like you have a conflict of interest (COI), which is when you are editing Wikipedia about someone you have an external relationship with. More specifically, you are a paid contributor, which means you are required to disclose that information as explained here before editing about the subject, and you should follow the instructions in this section of the conflict of interest guideline.
 * Creating an article can be difficult on Wikipedia, and paid editors must do so by putting their drafts through the Articles for Creation process. You will first need to determine if the subject of the article, your CEO, is notable by Wikipedia's definition; a person must be notable to have a Wikipedia article. If notability is determined, you will then need to make sure that you follow the other core policies. Wikipedia articles must be verifiable and keep a neutral point of view, the latter of which in particular can be difficult for a paid editor.
 * You should also know that should the article be created and accepted, it will not belong to you, your CEO, or your company. (See also the essay An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.) Wikipedia does not allow self-promotion or advertising – it is contrary to its purpose. That's part of why there are so many rules paid editors have to follow.
 * In summary, if you wish to write an article yourself, you should:
 * Read the conflict of interest guideline (especially the section about paid contributions) and its partner about disclosure and disclose as necessary;
 * Create a draft only if the subject is notable;
 * Base the entire draft on reliable sources for verifiability and be very careful to keep a neutral point of view;
 * Submit the draft article through the Articles for Creation process.
 * I know this can feel a bit complicated, so feel free to ask me if you have any more questions! Perfect4th (talk) 22:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from ItsMeJBird on File:Community Health and Wellness Centers logo.png (13:24, 29 September 2022)
Hello, I'm looking to update a logo that's on a company Wiki page. The logo is not up-to-date on the page and I can't figure out how to edit it. --ItsMeJBird (talk) 13:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Images can be tricky on Wikipedia because of copyright. Any photo you wish to add has to be uploaded to either a linked website called Wikimedia Commons or locally on the English Wikipedia. (Commons is intended for free photos, while some with copyright restrictions can be uploaded to the English Wikipedia.) Any images you upload must follow the image use policy; the image uploading process is explained here in detail. Hope this helps! Perfect4th (talk) 22:33, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

September drive bling

 * Congratulations, Perfect4th!!! Don't forget how close you are to being finished with the tutorial at NPP. SMirC-wink.svg  Atsme  💬 📧 18:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ishaq Ahmad Muhammad (13:47, 12 October 2022)
How do I Create More Pages and attach to My Wikipedia Account Sir. --Ishaq Ahmad Muhammad (talk) 13:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, !
 * I'm going to assume by 'pages' you mean Wikipedia articles. Articles are typically pretty tricky for newcomers to create on Wikipedia, as there are a lot of policies and guidelines that apply to articles that take time to understand. It's usually easier to start with smaller edits (you can check out your homepage, the Task Center, or the Community Portal for ideas). If you'd still like to create an article, though, you should check out Your First Article.
 * As for attaching them to your account, I'm not sure what you mean – you can link articles you work on to your userpage, but it won't belong to you; everything on Wikipedia is released for the general public.
 * Please let me know if anything is unclear or you have any more questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 22:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors' October 2022 newsletter
 Baffle☿gab  03:07, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

 * Thanks very much, CAPTAIN RAJU! Much appreciated! Perfect4th (talk) 23:36, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
Hi Perfect4th. Your account has been added to the " " user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember: The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 13:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Be nice to new editors. They are usually not aware that they are doing anything wrong. Do make use of the message feature when tagging  pages for  maintenance so  that  they are aware.
 * You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted. Please be formal and polite in your approach to them – even if they are not.
 * If you are not sure what to do with a page, don't review it – just leave it for another reviewer.
 * Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page. Use the message feature to communicate with article creators and offer advice as much as possible.

Question from ExtremeEnd72 (15:39, 20 October 2022)
Hello! How can I edit something ? --ExtremeEnd72 (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! The Introduction and Contributing to Wikipedia pages describe editing Wikipedia (the former is a tutorial as well). Let me know if you have any more questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Mumuh Mukhtaruddin Official (01:49, 23 October 2022)
hello ,... my name Is mumuh Mukhtaruddin. do you speak indonesian? --Mumuh Mukhtaruddin Official (talk) 01:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, Mumuh Mukhtaruddin! I do not speak Indonesian, but there is an Indonesian Wikipedia. Let me know if there are any other ways I can help! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 02:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Tiwan UwU (23:12, 25 October 2022)
Hello. Thanks for the welcoming! How do I make an article? --Tiwan UwU (talk) 23:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome! Creating an encyclopedia article is very difficult on Wikipedia, especially for newcomers, because there are a lot of policies that have to be followed. Wikipedia articles have to be about notable subjects (subjects that have received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources), have to be verifiable (the information in the article should be traceable to its sources), and should be written in a neutral point of view (neither try to look the subject look good nor bad, but simply report facts as indicated by the sources). Because there's a lot that goes into creating an article, it's recommended newcomers start with other contributions and get a better handle on how the encyclopedia works prior to creating one (you can find some editing suggestions on your homepage). If you still would like to create an article, you should keep the three policies I linked you to earlier (notability, verifiability, and neutrality/neutral point of view) in mind and read this page, which guides you through creating an article. Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 23:52, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Suhito (18:22, 28 October 2022)
Hey if I forget to write an edit summary is it possible to do so after you've already published it? --Suhito (talk) 18:22, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! No, it is not, but you can make a dummy edit and clarify in its edit summary the intent of the previous edit (though it's not required to do so). Let me know if you have any more questions! Perfect4th (talk) 02:27, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Robinson Secondary School
We were gonna change the Wikipedia thing as a senior prank man, could you not interfere 2600:4040:23CD:1400:4DF1:E82B:AF19:C79B (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but Wikipedia is not the right outlet for that. See WP:RESPONSIBLE for further explanation. Thanks, Perfect4th (talk) 04:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Economy of India under the British Raj
Hey,. Hope you've been well! I saw that you removed the GOCE in use template on the article page. Can you please explain why? I was planning on copy editing this article for the GOCE November drive. Thanks! Jadedhippo (talk) 15:50, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Oops,, I misread the edit history and as the article not having been edited in more than 24 hours. That was a mistake on my part, I'll add it back. My apologies! Perfect4th (talk) 16:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries! Thank you! Jadedhippo (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from GloriousFluffiness (19:51, 3 November 2022)
Hey! I was wondering what are some tips on editing Wikipedia in source mode? Thanks! --GloriousFluffiness (talk) 19:51, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! This introduction has some source editing tips. Let me know if you have any more questions! Perfect4th (talk) 02:34, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from JudeKerr (21:54, 6 November 2022)
Hello, Perfect4th I was wondering why you can't make a Wikipedia article about JackSucksAtLife aka Jack Massey Welsh thanks! --JudeKerr (talk) 21:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome! My apologies for the late reply. Articles on Wikipedia have to be notable by Wikipedia's standards; that's the policy by which it is decided whether or not an article belongs in this encyclopedia. If an editor thinks an article is not notable, they can nominate it for deletion, and other editors will discuss whether they think the article is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. That happened to an article aobout the subject in this case, and editors decided that the subject was not sufficiently notable, so eventually the article title was protected from being created because it had already been discussed. If someone thinks they can demonstrate notability, though, they can create a draft and submit it through the Articles for Creation process.
 * Hope this answers your question! Let me know if you have any other questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 14:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from JudeKerr (15:44, 7 November 2022)
Hi again! Someone on Wikipedia called TrottieTrue reverted my edit for Craigneuk. I updated it so it would list 2 new places as myself is a Craigneuk Resident realised they don't list the 2 new places. The subject reverted it back to an edit that did not list the 2 new places. So I was wondering if there is a way to put it back into my edit. Thanks, Jude Kerr! --JudeKerr (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi again, ! Information on Wikipedia should be cited to reliable sources to aid verifiability. Citing to being a resident counts as original research, which isn't allowed; however, if you can cite a source with the updated information, you should be good to go. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 21:51, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Jamie Campbell Bower Page
Hi, I’d like an explanation as to why on the introduction to Jamie Campbell Bower’s page it is listing his character in Stranger Things as Vecna/Henry Creel/One. I now understand that spoilers are not a basis for removal or changing of a post, but his character isn’t even named that on nextflix as far as I can tell, or IMDB. His role maintains the name Friendly Orderly. What is the reasoning the current page should stay the same if it’s not accurately reflecting the published name of the character. Legomonkeyman997 (talk) 02:14, 9 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I had begun writing a response to you on your talk page earlier, and have now replied there. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 05:55, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Julius Raphael Ochai (16:44, 16 November 2022)
Hello mentor, how can I best edit my wiki page to fit my profile as the ceo of a tech company and also a software engineer? Thanks --Julius Raphael Ochai (talk) 16:44, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome! I'm assuming you're talking about your userpage? Wikipedia does not have profiles. The user namespace is a place to talk a little about yourself, particularly as an editor; the mainspace is solely for encyclopedia articles, which are governed by a variety of content policies. If you're trying to edit Wikipedia about yourself, you'll need to know that Wikipedia does not allow promotion and requires disclosure if you are a paid editor or have a conflict of interest. If you're talking about userpages, though, and what you want to add is within the scope of the policy about userpages, those guidelines provide some help. It's not really as important work as improving articles, though, so no need to stress over it too much – it doesn't have a huge bearing on editing, though I'm sure software experience will help. Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 01:07, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Okay,thanks for the enlightenment. Julius Raphael Ochai (talk) 01:53, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Bessiesdad (18:47, 17 November 2022)
Hello, I was my state's rep to the Equality Federation before and at the meeting in which we founded it as a unique, separate organization and gave it its name. It was fostered, staffed and funded by NGLTF, the Task Force (now NGLTFQ). Not one word acknowledging this empowering assistance appears in the Equality Foundation entry. I had experience working with many national lgbt orgs in my day and the task force was always there to help--without trying to take over or claim all the credit. But they deserve the credit for this. --Bessiesdad (talk) 18:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I'm not familiar with the organizations you're referring to. It sounds like you want more information added to an article. You shouldn't edit articles directly when you have an external relationship with their subjects, but you can request on the article talk page that information be added. Make sure to support it with reliable sources, and keep in mind that information in articles should be proportionate to the coverage of that subject. Hope this helps, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 19:19, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Kailashhc1 (04:52, 24 November 2022)
Hello, I have recently created a Wikipedia page but it got drafted because "it needs more citations from reliable, independent sources." but i have already added citation from top news media sources in our country (India). Still not approved. Please help me out on this.

Drafted Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kailash_Group_of_Hospitals --Kailashhc1 (talk) 04:52, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Looking over the draft, it looks like there are several sections that don't have many/any references for their content, such as the Founder, Subsidiaries, and Specialities offered by the Hospital, which only have one reference between them; more citations would help verify that information. Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 03:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * Thank you response and valuable feedback!
 * I have added some more citations on different sections (Founder, Subsidiaries, Specialities) from reliable & top news media sources related to our Hospital. Please review these changes and let me know or suggest me if there is anything else needed.
 * Drafted Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kailash_Group_of_Hospitals Kailashhc1 (talk) 05:48, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response and valuable feedback! Kailashhc1 (talk) 05:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

world cup
i saw your userpage. Ive seen football games on TV, hope you enjoy :) The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 05:38, 28 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ! I'm hopeful, since both my teams still have a chance of progressing. Hope you enjoy it if you watch as well!
 * If you're interested in football, you might take a look at WikiProject Football, which is a group of editors focused on improving football articles (discussion takes place on its talk page). There are also a number of other WikiProjects you can take a look at if you'd like; not all of them are active, but it can help you find things you may be interested in editing. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 08:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Growth team newsletter #23


Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!

Highlights

 * Mentorship: We released the new structured mentor list to all wikis. This change makes mentorship easier to setup, manage and use.
 * Positive reinforcement: An improved impact module is available for testing.



Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test
The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.

Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.

This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.

Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback
After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.

We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:
 * Patroller fatigue:
 * By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.

The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.
 * Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
 * Add a Link
 * Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
 * The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
 * The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
 * Add an Image
 * Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
 * Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
 * We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023.

Recent changes

 * All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request.
 * The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available.
 * Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.

News for mentors

 * All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
 * We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
 * Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting.
 * Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
 * A new special page —  — now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
 * The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees.

Deployments

 * Add a link has been deployed to a 5th round of wikis.

Improving this newsletter
We plan to have a more regular newsletter, every two months. We also want to know if the current format suits you! Let us know what you like, what you like less and your suggestions of improvements: leave us a comment, in your preferred language.

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter
Sent by Baffle gab1978 via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter error
The GOCE December 2022 newsletter, as sent on 9 December, contains an erroneous start date for our December Blitz. The Blitz will start on 11 December rather than on 17 December, as stated in the newsletter. I'm sorry for the mistake and for disrupting your talk page; thanks for your understanding. Sent by Baffle gab1978 via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hamdsabrmhmdyn on Sudan (19:24, 12 December 2022)
I am Sudanese, now I want to apply in advanced countries in education --Hamdsabrmhmdyn (talk) 19:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I'm afraid I'm not experienced in that field, though I should be able to help you if you have questions about editing Wikipedia. If you have general knowledge questions, you can try the Reference Desk. Hope this helps! Perfect4th (talk) 23:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Manoj Kumar kumbha (03:06, 21 December 2022)
Sir I need kumbha Manoj Kumar biography --Manoj Kumar kumbha (talk) 03:06, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from こもれびーさん (07:16, 22 December 2022)
Hi! How do I create an article? --こもれびーさん (talk) 07:16, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Articles are typically pretty tricky for newcomers to create on Wikipedia, as there are a lot of policies and guidelines that apply to articles that take time to understand. New articles have to be about subjects that are notable by Wikipedia's definition, have to be verifiable (backed up by reliable sources), and must be written in a neutral tone, as well as conforming to stylistic policies and similar. It's usually easier to start with smaller edits (you can check out your homepage, the Task Center, or the Community Portal for ideas). If you'd still like to create an article, though, you should check out Your First Article. Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 07:30, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Sarahadad20 on User:Sarahadad20/sandbox (11:28, 22 December 2022)
Hey, I was reviewing the criteria for article publication but mistakenly submitted an empty draft. How can I undo it? --Sarahadad20 (talk) 11:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Sorry for the delayed response. Looks like a reviewer already rejected the draft, so it's no longer in the queue. To undo an edit, you can go to the page history of an article or page and click "undo" next to the edit you wish to undo. If the edit you want to undo is not the most recent, conflicting edits can make it more difficult; you can, however, edit the revision you want to return it to and publish changes that way – I've done so on the sandbox here. Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any more questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 01:39, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Jtappan (00:45, 29 December 2022)
Is this "Tha City Paper" page a quick edit page? Like can I put my own band on there and it will save as my band? --Jtappan (talk) 00:45, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! You do have the ability to edit the article. However, I would not advise putting your own band on the article (see An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Let me know if you have any other questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 07:10, 29 December 2022 (UTC)