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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
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Question from Erpduo (11:49, 6 January 2023)
Where can we register ERPDUO as a company? --Erpduo (talk) 11:49, 6 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome to Wikipedia!
 * Right now your first concern is your username – Wikipedia has a very specific username policy. Specifically, accounts cannot be shared or used by more than one person, and cannot represent a company or corporation as a whole. Since the account username is against policy, your account has been softblocked for now; you can request an unblock and name change by putting  at the bottom of your talk page, where there are also more detailed instructions for changing your username and getting unblocked.
 * You appear to have a conflict of interest (COI), which is when you are editing Wikipedia about someone you have an external relationship with. More specifically, you are a paid contributor, which means you are required to disclose that information as explained here before editing about the subject, and you should follow the instructions in this section of the conflict of interest guideline.
 * I assume by "register [your company]", you mean "create an article for the company" – Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and contains articles about subjects; its purpose is not self-promotion. As a result, creating an article can be difficult on Wikipedia, and paid editors must do so by putting their drafts through the Articles for Creation process. You will first need to determine if the subject of the article is notable by Wikipedia's definition; a corporation must be notable to have a Wikipedia article. (If a subject is truly notable, someone unrelated often will come along and write an article independently of the company.) If notability is determined, you will then need to make sure that you follow the other core policies. Wikipedia articles must be verifiable and keep a neutral point of view, the latter of which in particular can be difficult for a paid editor.
 * You should also know that should the article be created and accepted, it will not belong to you or your company. (See also the essay An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.) Part of why there are so many rules paid editors have to follow is because Wikipedia does not allow self-promotion or advertising and it is contrary to its purpose.
 * In summary, if you wish to write an article yourself, you should:
 * Read the conflict of interest guideline (especially the section about paid contributions) and its partner about disclosure and disclose as necessary;
 * Create a draft only if the subject is notable;
 * Base the entire draft on reliable sources for verifiability and be very careful to keep a neutral point of view;
 * Submit the draft article through the Articles for Creation process.
 * Let me know if you have any more questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 05:56, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mkhiyami (16:01, 9 January 2023)
Hello Perfect4th,

I am attempting to rename/move a page which is duplicated across wikipedia.

The move option is not available. A quick google search suggests that my account is not confirmed?

I have familiarised myself with wikipedia policies and am looking forward to get the ball rolling.

Your advice would be much appreciated!

Many thanks ,

Madani --Mkhiyami (talk) 16:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome to Wikipedia! Yes, you have to have made ten or more edits and have had an account for four or mays to be automatically confirmed, which allows you to move articles or pages. You should become autoconfirmed on your next edit. Let me know if you have any more questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 01:44, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, 24.45.48.154 here
I made some revisions to an article about Tales of Legendia yesterday (1/10/2023) which you reversed, and I received your message today explaining why and what I can do to be sure these things work out. Specifically, you advised me to properly source the information that I added. You also linked me to an article (Referencing For Beginners) which I began to read. This encouraged me to work out a reply for you, and that encouraged me to create an account rather than replying from just an IP address.

So, I have to figure out how to properly cite/source the game itself, since that is my source of information.

Thank you for your intervention and helpful related article. FlutterJackdash (talk) 19:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome! Glad to hear from you, and glad you found the information helpful. Reliable sources are pretty important on Wikipedia; since video games can be harder to source well, editors created a list of sources and a measure of their reliability to make it easier, and there's even a search engine just for those sources (all credit to for knowing that, I'm not a video game editor) . Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Write a blog
How can I write a blog on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jabes14 (talk • contribs) 11:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! I'm sorry, but you shouldn't. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and that goes against several of our policies.
 * Think of it like Encyclopedia Britannica or World Book – would you expect to publish a blog in one of those? Wikipedia differs from them in some ways because of its format, but it's not designed for that. You can take a look at some alternative places for it included in this list, though.
 * I wish you the best of luck, and of course, if you'd still like to contribute to Wikipedia in general, you are most welcome! Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 03:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from HoneyKpop on Everglow (03:32, 25 January 2023)
Hello! I have a question. Is it okay to place more than two citation references next to each other after a sentence's period? For example, I have this sentence: "Everglow performed in nine different countries in a year without a formal tour: Saudi Arabia, South Korea, England, Australia, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Netherlands, and the Philippines."

I have a reference for each country on the list. At first, I placed each citation after each country and its comma, but i found it hard to read, so I ended up placing all of the citations at the end of the sentence. Is that okay? --HoneyKpop (talk) 03:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! That's perfectly all right – Citing sources says an inline citation is, for which this seems to qualify just fine, and improving readability is a noble goal as well. Thanks for your work on the encyclopedia! Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 04:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * All right, thank you! HoneyKpop (talk) 04:09, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem! Perfect4th (talk) 04:10, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Coryannyyz (18:40, 28 January 2023)
Good to meet you Perfect4th! Is that user name a music reference? Anyway, I do have a question for you. I am experimenting with my first substantial edit in my sandbox. I would like an expert Wikipedian to review my edits and provide guidance on whether I'm on the right track. Also, I had a photograph that displayed more visual information about the text content than did the one that was there previously. Is it OK to replace the existing one with my own? Here is a link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coryannyyz/sandbox. Thanks, Coryannyyz. --Coryannyyz (talk) 18:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome! Sorry for the late reply, I’ve had a busy weekend. It is indeed a music reference. (I’m so excited someone got it!) I’m afraid real life commitments are hitting me hard right now, and I likely won’t be able to look at much beyond surface level for a few days. I did skim your sandbox and I didn’t see any major issues. I will give you a heads up that creating a new article is difficult for new editors because it takes a while to become familiar with Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines (check out Everything you need to know for a simplified overview).
 * Feel free to upload pictures, though you should make sure the copyright is taken care of. For the process of doing so,Help:Pictures explains how to add an image into an article. If you want to add an image that's not yet on Wikimedia Commons (a sister website hosting pictures), Uploading images has an explanation. You can also check out Image use policy (policies about using images).
 * i know this is a lot of information, so feel free to let me know if you have any more questions! You can also ask at the Teahouse if you’d like a faster response. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 14:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, @Perfect4th! I skimmed over the discussions in the Teahouse and found them interesting. Most seem to be people asking why their contributions were removed or declined. I learned one can request review, which is more or less what I am seeking. However, I'm very confident in my use of reliable, verifiable sources... I'm a published academic, so that is what I do! I'm less confident about tone and etiquette. It is a different kind of writing style and collaborative writing than I've done before. Perhaps I am being over cautious and should just go ahead and post the segment on the article page. Since I already posted my question to the article's talk page, how long should one wait for a reply before making the "bold" move? Coryannyyz (talk) 16:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem, ! The Teahouse is designed to be helpful for completely new editors as well as those who have a little more experience, so it gets a lot of beginner questions; however, most of the hosts have been around a while and can answer pretty much anything. Good to hear you have a good grasp of sources – that'll get you a long way. For the picture, I think it would be fine to go ahead and change it, and if someone thinks it was better previously it can be reverted and discussed. I saw your other talk page question and I'm afraid I don't know; I've not worked with images myself. You could try asking on a talk page like Wikipedia talk:Wikimedia Commons, but it's not very high-traffic, so you might do better at the Teahouse or the Help desk.
 * I did look over your sandbox a bit more for tone, and most of it looks pretty good. The sentence gets a bit less encyclopedic; describing the ambiance and intimate spaces doesn't quite fit with the the information style (and also, I'd remove "cozy" from the following sentence for similar reasons). Thanks for your work on this! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 10:05, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Perfect4th Thank you for this timely and helpful advice! The page on information style is very helpful too! I will share this with my students. I've copyedited the paragraphs to remove the more interpretive aspects of the problem sentences. I will post the paragraphs to the page and mention that I've done so on the talk page. Then see what happens! Coryannyyz (talk) 14:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course, my pleasure! Perfect4th (talk) 00:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #24
Welcome to the twenty-fourth newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomer experience projects
The Growth team partnered with other WMF teams to conduct several experiments around increasing account creation and new editor retention. Results from four of these experiments are now available:


 * Thank you pages & banners - Encourage donors to create accounts through thank you pages and banners.
 * Marketing experiment - Run ads on-wiki and off-wiki to see how this impacts account activation.
 * "Add an image" GLAM events - Host GLAM events that focus on using the "Add an image" tool.
 * Welcome emails - Experiment sending welcome emails to newly created accounts.

Newcomer tasks

 * Several communities suggested improving "add a link", by suggesting underlinked articles first. We released this change to Growth pilot wikis. We will review the data and collect feedback before considering releasing it to more wikis.
 * The deployment of the "add a link" to all Wikipedias is still in progress. Suggested links use a prediction model, which has to be trained. The deployments will resume after we finish training all models.

Mentorship

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Question from Chilicave (20:27, 4 February 2023)
Hi! I have a quick question about grammar. I'm currently working on the Guru Purnima page. My question is: suppose I italicize an unfamiliar word in an article. E.g. "puja." Should I continue to italicize it throughout the article? --Chilicave (talk) 20:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, ! Sorry for the late response. Wikipedia’s guide for this kind of thing is called the Manual of Style. I’m not familiar with the issue myself, but based on the foreign italics section, I think continued italics are correct. Hope this helps, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 20:14, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks! Chilicave (talk) 03:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Perfect4th. I'm back!
 * I was browsing through the reference list on the Vijayadashami article and I noticed that there are two citations that lead to the same article: "Dussehra | Festival, Meaning, Puja, & Significance | Britannica" and also this one  Encyclopedia Britannica Dussehra 2015. This second one also links to a bibliography at the bottom of the page. Is that correct? Also, I'm still a little confused on how to appropriately get rid of duplicate links.  Chilicave (talk) 18:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi again, ! My deepest apologies for taking so long to get back to you. I had a project due yesterday and forgot to mark myself away.
 * For your question, it looks to me like the second is used more like a general reference as described here, though it is labeled a bibliography. That is probably okay – (from Citing sources).
 * When you say duplicate links, are you referring to citations or in-wiki links? You can install user scripts like this one to help with the latter.
 * Let me know if you have any more questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 04:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Perfect4th not a problem! I can totally relate. Thanks for answering my question - makes sense.
 * I was referring to citations. Chilicave (talk) 18:39, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , thanks, and not a problem!
 * For duplicate links, the Manual of Style duplicate link guidance is intended for in-wiki links, but if you come across citations that are duplicates, you can remove them too (check to make sure that what they support is properly linked to the remaining citation, though). Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 07:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Perfect4th,
 * So I'm editing a page on an Indian woman musician - Veenai Dhanammal - and it's still very underdeveloped. When reading about her career, there is a quote that is the length of a paragraph that has been added to that particular section. Although it can be verified, can such a lengthy quote be placed there? Also, is there a way to tag that particular section saying that it needs to be rewritten or rephrased? Chilicave (talk) 21:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, !
 * In looking at the quotes information page, the short answer is that I'm seeing that lengthy quotes are allowed with limitations but not encouraged, and probably shouldn't be used in this case. Long answer: this section describes how copyright relates to it: quoted material should not be . I don't have access to the source document, so I'm not sure about how well the specific issue fits that. It is also mentioned, however, that . There's no set length limit, but considering that the quote is half of the career section, it's probably too long.
 * For the template, I think the best fit here is Long quote. I'm not aware of a single template for a section to be generally rewritten for that reason, but Wikipedia's template index is extensive, so there could be one (or maybe just one for every specific issue that could ever occur, who knows).
 * Thanks for your patience, and my apologies for the wait for this! Just so you know, I'm about to mark myself as inactive on the mentor program until March 6. I'll still be around some if you have more questions, but I may take longer than usual to respond. The "Ask a question" feature on your homepage should redirect you to another active mentor during that time if you'd prefer, and the Teahouse is of course also an option. In the meantime, thank you for your work on Wikipedia! You're asking good questions and making an impact. Happy editing and have fun! Until next time, Perfect4th (talk) 05:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Perfect4th! Wow, thanks for the detailed, helpful answer!
 * Thanks for the heads up about becoming an inactive member soon. Definitely sucks since you've been a great help, but you've left me with some great sources to go to for future guidance. All the best to you! Chilicave (talk) 01:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , no problem! I'll still be around Wikipedia. I'm not able to commit to answering all the questions I get through the mentor program in a reasonable time right now, so I'm taking a break just from that for a couple of weeks. If you'd still like to ask questions or for resources, I can still answer, it just won't be right away. I plan to be back fully involved with mentees March 6. Hope this helps, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 05:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Ohhh! My apologies! I actually misunderstood your message as you will no longer be a mentor starting March 6. Gotcha, thanks. Chilicave (talk) 16:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Greetings @Perfect4th!
 * I'm actually in need of help with merging two articles. The two articles are Hindola and Jhulan Purnima. I've redirected the content form the Hindola page to the Jhulan Purnima page by following WP:Merge. While reading this policy, I got a little bit confused about reconciling talk pages. How do I reconcile the talk pages? Do I copy and paste the content from the Hindola talk page to the Jhulan Purnima talk page (including the WikiProjects)? Chilicave (talk) 21:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi again, ! It’s thankfully simpler than that – just use merged-to on the talk page. This helps preserve prior discussion on the old article. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 12:20, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Perfect4th!
 * Do you mind having a quick peek to see if I did it right? Chilicave (talk) 17:00, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * , the only content you need on a redirect page is the redirect itself, not article content, so you can remove that from Hindola. You'll also want to document on Talk:Hindola that the article content was merged to the ariticle Jhulan Purnima rather than its talk page. You can add merged-from on Talk:Jhulan Purnima too, and you'll be all set. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 05:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors 2022 Annual Report
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i didnt steal from you i swear


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 * "But my friend, you left so early Surely something slipped your mind I must say I’m rather flattered Thanks so much, you’re very kind"
 * Or something like that. Glad you found it of use! Feel free to stop by if you’ve any questions :) Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 14:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Knowledgemattersnow (14:44, 22 March 2023)
How do I delete this page?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spotted_seatrout&redirect=no

I am renaming (moving) saltwater fish pages by (to) their common name and this is taking up the name.

Anyhelp would be appreciated. Thank You. --Knowledgemattersnow (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome!
 * First off, I am so sorry that I took so long to respond – real life got really crazy and I didn't mark myself as away, which was my fault.
 * For your question, basically, what I'm seeing at Moving a page is that you want to move it over a redirect. It may be possible to do so as described here, but because there are two edits in the edit history, even though one of them is just maintenance, you may need to make a request at Requested moves/Technical requests instead.
 * Sorry for being so late and so brief – I have a project I need to get finished but I wanted to give you something at least to get you started. Feel free to ask any more questions you may have, and I'll get back to you soon! Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 01:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Dead Links
Hello!

It's me, CrowEater! I'm not dead, and my userpage isn't redlinked (yet), so I'd say I've been doing pretty darn well for myself. You said I could ask you a question if I needed any help, so, here we are I guess.

I'm (trying) to copyedit S-300 missile system, and right around the "Land-based S-300P (SA-10)" section, it references this page: "http://www8.janes.com/Search/documentView.do?docId=/content1/janesdata/yb/jlad/jlad0108.htm". Now, there was an 8 that somehow snuck in after the www, and after thoroughly squashing it into oblivion, I was led to a fun little "error 404" page.

I've read my fair share of Wikipedia policy articles, so I'm pretty confident that being unable to verify if a source even exists is really bad. I'm not sure what proper procedure would be in this case. Finding an alternative source is above my paygrade as a copyeditor, so how can I flag this and make it someone else's problem?

Love, CrowEater (talk) 02:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ah, welcome back, ! Good to see you around – seeing your message made me smile.
 * Let me introduce you to my best friend, Template index. When people ask me questions, it makes me look a lot smarter than I really am – I just search the templates and I'll usually find some template that fits what's needed pretty well if I can figure out the proper wiki-speak for it. In this case, I think you're looking for dead link (don't forget to date it!).
 * Come again whenever you like, and happy (copy)editing! Perfect4th (talk) 01:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #25
Welcome to the twenty-fifth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Celebrations
Leveling up release


 * We released Leveling up features to our pilot wikis on March 22 for an initial A/B test.
 * In this test, we use post-edit dialogs (pop-ups shown after publishing an edit) and notifications to encourage new editors to try new types of newcomer-friendly suggested edits.
 * We are closely monitoring the short term impact of this feature as well as the longer term effect on newcomer productivity and retention. If the experiment shows positive results, we will release this feature to more wikis.

5,000+ images added via the newcomer task in February


 * In February 2023, 5,035 images were added via the newcomer “add an image” feature (on all wikis where available); 155 were reverted.
 * Since the feature “add an image” was launched: 36,803 images have been added; 2,957 images were reverted.

Recent changes

 * Add a link
 * Community Ambassadors completed an initial evaluation that confirmed that prioritizing underlinked articles resulted in better article suggestions. We then evaluated the change on Growth pilot wikis, and results suggest that more newcomers are successfully completing the task and experiencing fewer reverts. We have now deployed the new prioritization model to all wikis with "add a link" enabled.
 * We continue the deployment of "add a link" to more wikis. These changes are regularly announced in Tech News. To know if newcomers at your wiki have access to this feature, please visit your Homepage.
 * The Impact module was deployed on our pilot wikis, where we conducted an A/B test. We published initial findings, and a data scientist is now completing experiment analysis.
 * Donor Thank you page experiment – Donors land on a “thank you” page after donation, and that landing page now includes a call to action to try editing: Example Thank you page in French. This promising feature is tested at several Wikipedias.
 * Growth features are now the default experience on both test.wikipedia.org and test2.wikipedia.org. You can test our features there.

Upcoming work

 * Add an image – We plan to offer section-level image suggestions as a structured task for newcomers.
 * We are starting design work.
 * Growth team Ambassadors helped with an initial evaluation of these section-level image suggestions.
 * We will start a community consultation in which we share initial ideas and designs soon.
 * IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation – We will support this project for all Growth Team maintained products and extensions that may be affected by IP Masking.

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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Question from HoneyKpop on User talk:HoneyKpop (21:23, 8 May 2023)
Hello! I uploaded of the girl group Everglow to Wikipedia Commons. It's a screenshot from a fan-recorded video on YouTube. The thing is, I didn't choose any CC license tag because I don't know how to determine which is the proper one. Could you help me with that? I don't want my file to get deleted for the same issue again. Thank you! --HoneyKpop (talk) 21:23, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * , I'm afraid I'm not entirely sure on this question – I haven't personally worked with pictures much. Looking at the image use policy, it might fall under the 'Own Work' section here as long as the other copyright rules work out correctly (here's the help page about copyright on Wikipedia if you don't already have the link). Sorry I can't give you more specific help on this one, but I would suggest asking elsewhere – you could try the image use policy talk page, but it seems pretty quiet, so you might be better off asking at the Teahouse – there's a number of experienced editors there, so some of them ought to have an answer for your question.
 * Let me know if you have any other questions, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 08:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Sid99jugaad (06:25, 15 May 2023)
I'm trying to write a wikipedia page for my company --Sid99jugaad (talk) 06:25, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, !
 * It sounds like you have a conflict of interest (COI), which is when you are editing Wikipedia about yourself or someone you have an external relationship with). More specifically, you are a paid contributor, which means you are required to disclose that information as explained here before editing about the subject, and you should follow the instructions in this section of the conflict of interest guideline.
 * Creating an article can be difficult on Wikipedia, and paid editors must do so by putting their drafts through the Articles for Creation process. You will first need to determine if the subject of the article is notable by Wikipedia's definition; a company must be notable to have a Wikipedia article. If notability is determined, you will then need to make sure that you follow the other core policies. Wikipedia articles must be verifiable and keep a neutral point of view, the latter of which in particular can be difficult for a paid editor.
 * You should also know that should the article be created and accepted, it will not belong to you or your company. (See also the essay An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.) Wikipedia does not allow self-promotion or advertising – it is contrary to its purpose. That's part of why there are so many rules paid editors have to follow.
 * In summary, if you wish to write an article yourself, you should:
 * Read the conflict of interest guideline (especially the section about paid contributions) and its partner about disclosure and disclose as necessary;
 * Create a draft only if the subject is notable;
 * Base the entire draft on reliable sources for verifiability and be very careful to keep a neutral point of view;
 * Submit the draft article through the Articles for Creation process.
 * I know this can feel a bit complicated, so feel free to ask me if you have any more questions! Perfect4th (talk) 06:33, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from VarunaP (14:04, 16 May 2023)
Hi, I am having some trouble with entering details about our CEO to wikipedia. Can you help me? --VarunaP (talk) 14:04, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, !
 * First of all, you’ll need to know that if you are editing about your CEO, you have a conflict of interest (COI), which is when you are editing Wikipedia about yourself or someone you have an external relationship with). You’re also a paid contributor, which means you’ll have to disclose that information as explained here before editing about the subject, and you should follow the instructions in this section of the conflict of interest guideline.
 * Once that’s out of the way, can you tell me any more about what you’re trying to enter/what troubles you’re having?
 * Happy editing,
 * Perfect4th (talk) 14:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from MarkScoopit (06:43, 19 May 2023)
Hello,

Mark here! I'm a web developer normally I can do everything but Wikipedia is a new world for me but soon will everything be very easy for me.

I have a Q for you, when can I start publishing pages and bios ?

thanku and have a good weekend Mark --MarkScoopit (talk) 06:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome.
 * I'm assuming you're looking to create articles. I'll have to begin you with a word of caution: creating articles is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. While technical knowledge will help with implementation, it's content that's the most challenging aspect. Wikipedia aims to be an encyclopedia summarizing what reliable, secondary sources say about a subject, and try to make everything traceable back to those sources. Another very important hurdle is notability, which is whether a subject even belongs in the encyclopedia at all; no amount of editing can make something or someone non-notable notable. If you're trying to write about people, you'll need to look at the biography information page; for other subjects, take a look at notability. It's also very important to keep a neutral point of view, which is difficult if you have a conflict of interest (an external relationship with the subject of an article) and requires following additional rules. While the technical ability to create articles comes after an account has been created for four days and made ten edits, it's highly unlikely that any article created at that stage is ready for mainspace, and will probably at least have to be incubated in a draft stage first.
 * In short, it's much better to wait on creating articles until after a period of making smaller edits and getting much more familiar with content policies. Creating an article is possible, but it requires time and effort for a longer period than most people expect. Let me know if you have any follow-up/other questions, and happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 04:41, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #26
Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

One million Suggested Edits
We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!
 * The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
 * Suggested edits increase the number of edits newcomers complete in their first two weeks and have a relatively low revert rate. (source)
 * Suggested edits are available on all Wikipedia language editions.
 * Newer Suggested edits, like Add a link and Add an image, aren’t yet deployed to all wikis, but these structured tasks further increase the probability that newcomers will make their first edit. (source)

Positive reinforcement
Positive reinforcement aims to encourage newcomers who have visited our homepage and tried Growth features to keep editing.
 * The new Impact module was released to Growth pilot wikis in December 2022, and we are now scaling the feature to another ten wikis.
 * The Leveling up features are deployed at our pilot wikis.
 * The Personalized praise features were deployed at our pilot wikis on May 24. Mentors at pilot wikis will start to receive notifications weekly when they have “praise-worthy” mentees. Mentors can configure their notification preferences or disable these notifications.

Add an image

 * We are creating a new section-level variation of the “add an image” task. We have tested the accuracy of suggestions, and the development of this new task is well-underway.

Other updates

 * We are progressively releasing Add a link to more wikis.
 * After adding Thanks to Recent Changes, Watchlist and Special:Contributions, we investigated Thanks usage on the wikis. There is no evidence that thanks increased after the feature was added on more pages.
 * We helped with code review for the 2023 Community Wish to add Notifications for user page edits.
 * We have been attending several community events, that we documented in our Growth’s Community events report.

What's next for Growth?

 * We shared an overview of Growth annual planning ideas, and have started community discussion about these potential projects. We would love to hear your feedback on these ideas!

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Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter
Sent by Baffle gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Chilicave (17:54, 6 June 2023)
Hey there again! Is there an easy way to bundle citations under one footnote?

Thanks:) --Chilicave (talk) 17:54, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey, ! The method I’ve seen used ends up just listing all the references together in this format:  (taken from the article Manuel Neuer). Hope this helps! Good to see you again :) Perfect4th (talk) 16:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Chilicave (talk) 17:32, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rose-Alicia (19:01, 14 June 2023)
Hello, lovely to meet you. Very excited to be here and share my knowledge and passion for editing and truth with the world.

I am starting with small edits based on inside factual information I know. I realised I maybe need to add references to the sentences? --Rose-Alicia (talk) 19:01, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, and welcome! Glad to have you.
 * That's correct; information on Wikipedia should be cited to reliable sources (for which you can find a guideline here). You can find an easy guide to that here. I see someone has already welcomed you to Wikipedia, but I'll drop another welcome with some helpful links on it on your talk page. Once again, welcome, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 07:53, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Brill! Thank you so much for the links. I will take a good look through and make sure that the links provided in future are quality sources. 86.187.229.249 (talk) 12:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem, and let me know if you have any future questions! I’m out of town until the 12th of this month, so your mentorship question feature is set to redirect you to another mentor, but I’ll be back after that. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 13:00, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello , Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by  and  with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of, and also some patches from , has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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