User talk:Periandros

Thomas Lascelles
I'm interested in what your interest is in Thomas Lascelles & any further info you might have on him (the Mount Grace one). Tattooed Librarian 18:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TattooedLibrarian (talk • contribs) I have been studying the history of the Lascelles family for more than thirty years. I'm afraid I have more to contribute in terms of doubts than certain information. Thus, while the source I have quoted proves that Thomas Lascelles of Mount Grace was a different man to the M.P., it also remains mere conjecture (though highly probable) that he was the son of the Lascelles of Sowerby family man born in 1624 (though I have not challenged this assertion in the Wikipedia article). The author of the article on Thomas Lascelles in the History of Parliament has simply assumed that a string of references to "Thomas Lascelles" apply to the same man when this is demonstrably false, and he has offered no forum for challenging his simplistic and entirely novel assertions. I have given clear documentary evidence for the little I have challenged. That annoys me - I relied on that source and considered it reliable - that will teach me! Are you willing to share what you have on that part of the Lascelles family? In particular, I'd be interested to see the document re the dipute. I am researching it too - I know a bit about TL's descendants (one here if you're interested - unfinished article - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TattooedLibrarian/Peter_Lascelles) Tattooed Librarian 18:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TattooedLibrarian (talk • contribs)

The Chancery suit is in the National Archives and very long. I don't have a photocopy. As requested, I'm copying my information on Thomas of Mount Grace, though I don't expect it will come out clearly in this format: Thomas, Capt. in the Parliamentary army; in arms for Parliament ca. 1645-53+; bought the sequestered manor of East Harlsey, Yorks. 1651, which allowed to compound for Jan. 1652/3, but sold 1654; bought the manor of Mount Grace, East Harlsey, Yorks. 1653; took his company under Maj.Gen. Harrison into the North March 1650/1; m. Ruth (living 1681) dau. of -; & d. soon after Oct. 1658, having had issue by her: 1	Thomas, Gent.; of Crossgate, co. Durham;  b. May 1647;  m. 9 Dec. 1669 Frances (living mid 1673) dau. of William Heighington of Durham, & later wife of James Church of Durham, Attorney-at-law; & d. 1672,  having had issue by her: 1     Thomas;  of Mount Grace in the parish of East Harlsey, Yorks.;  bapt. 27 Oct. 1670 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; m. 12 Nov. 1691 at Stockton-on-Tees, co. Durham, Dorothy (d.after 1737)  dau. of - Gibson; & was bur. 18 Mar. 1701/2 at E. Harsley, Yorks., having had issue by her: 1a     William, Gent.., of Mount Grace, Yorks.;  left his estate there, in case of the failure of prior devises, to the above-mentioned Daniel Lascelles of Northallerton, & used very similar arms to the latter’s;  bapt. 29 Dec. 1692 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; m. 2 July 1715 at Durham, Alice (living 1738) dau. of - Woodmass; & d. between 16 June 1722 & 1 May 1723, having had issue by her: 1b     Thomas;  bapt. 10 June 1716; bur. 29 Dec. 1717. 2b     William;  bapt. 11 May 1718; bur. 28 May 1718. 3b     Revd. Robert; Vicar of Gilling, Yorks. 13 Dec. 1777-1801; educ. Lincoln Col., Oxford (B.A. 1739) & St. John’s, Cambridge (M.A. 1769); ordained deacon 14 March 1740/1 & priest 29 May 1742;  sold the priory & lands of Mount Grace, Yorks. 1744; Rector of Middleton-in-Teesdale, co. Durham 1778-1801; Chaplain to the Duke of Newcastle; author of Angling, Shooting and Coursing (published London 1815);  b. 1719, bapt. 29 April 1719 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; d. 2 Nov. 1801, bur. at Gilling. 4b     Peter;  Gent., of Marsk, Yorks.;  bapt. 1721 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; m. before 20 Feb. 1771,   Jane (living 3 June 1775) dau. of -; & d. between 3 June 1775 & 10 May 1776. 1b     Dorothy;  bapt. 22 April 1720 at St. Mary-le-Bow, Durham; m. 6 April 1749 at Witton Gilbert, co. Durham, John Fenwick, Gent., of Cleadon, co. Durham (bapt. 4 Aug. 1724;  d. 29 June 1783);  & d. 12 Aug. 1794 at Hexham, Northumberland;  having had issue by him four sons & one dau. 2a     Thomas; of Crossgate, co. Durham;  bapt. 21 Jan. 1693/4 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; m. Alice dau. of -, & d. (will dated 1738), having had issue by her: 1b     Robert 2b     Peter 1b     Dorothy 1a     Frances;  bapt. 11 June 1695 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; m. 14 Jan. 1714/5 Thomas Taylerson;  & was bur. 13 Dec. 1716 at St. Giles’s, Durham. 1     Margaret;,  b. posthumously, bapt. 18 Oct. 1672 at St. Margaret’s, Durham; d. 28 July 1684, bur. there the next day. 2     Peregrine, Merchant of Newcastle;  b. after Oct. 1651;  d. aged over 21. 3     Francis, Gent.;  d. aged over 21. 1     Ruth;  b. 1648/51;  m. 1656/70 Walter Hawkesworth, Gent., of Little [Dawby?], Yorks.,  both living Oct. 1672. 2     Hannah;  b. after Oct. 1651;  m. after Oct. 1672 Thomas Gibbon. 3     Elianor;  d. aged over 21. 4     Martha;  d. aged under 21 before 1674. I would be grateful for any additional information, and especially for any evidence he was the brother of Francis Lascelles the M.P.

Talkback
I responded to your question. :) — Mike  moral  ♪♫  02:51, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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