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Death of Cleopatra
I would like to say, damn that was fun to review, and you were very good humored and it was impressive that you took it all in your stride, even though myself and Mrmuddle were raining down like a tonne of bricks, murmuring and griping about this, that and the other. If we had more people with your temperament, sheer coolness and grace, wiki would be a far happier place. Ceoil (talk) 14:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * thank you for saying that! It was very thoughtful. And yes, I also thought the review process went very well. Your input led to a whole host of improvements. The article is much more readable as a result. Cheers! Pericles of Athens  Talk 16:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I tried to specify the picture at the start as unfinished, but then it just said "Roman picture" and nothing else. How can I edit it to say "Unfinished Roman picture" and then the needed parts?

From, EvaTheWingdale. 8:39:01, CST, Febuary 8th, 2021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.14.221.98 (talk) 14:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. Firstly, that is inaccurate. It is not an unfinished Roman fresco, it looks that way because it is badly damaged by wear and tear over the centuries, and it is clearly restored. The existing description of that Pompeian painting in the lead section is fine just how it is and it's properly sourced, for that matter. Also, you basically put your line of text in between the coded brackets that produces a link, causing an error. Please refrain from editing this or any other Featured article if you do not have a properly cited scholarly source to support your assertions. Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 18:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Cleopatra
Sorry for not citing a better source. A quick check of Google books shows that Roller (2010) does use tetrarch but I believe that his usage is anomalous. In any event the link should be to Herodian Tetrarchy rather than Tetrarchy which is about the division of the Roman empire under Diocletian. I was surprised by the term, and followed the link. Seeing that it led to the wring article I thought to change it, but also checked the Herodian Tetrarchy to see if the term was also used for Herod the Great before he became king. That article only talks about the division of the kingdom after Herod's death and since there is no obvious application of the term (which means ruler of a fourth part) to Judea before that time, I assumed it was a simple error. I did not check the cited source since it is a book I do not have on my shelf. Since Roller applies the term to Herod, my edits were wrong, without a better source which I don't have handy. But my memory of my reliable, paper sources is that they agree with the article Herodian Tetrarchy that the term was not used of Herod the Great but only of his successors in ancient sources. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2019 (UTC) I posted this before I saw your comments on the article talk page which addressed this matter. I would just say that my prefered method of dealing with content, especially when I don't expect content to be controversial is WP:BRD. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)


 * hello. Thanks for the reply and the explanation, but we should shift this conversation over to Talk:Cleopatra, to the section that I started there for this purpose. Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 00:45, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm looking to write an article on the popularity of the Cleopatra page. As one of the main editors, can you say why/how it got some popular? Thank youMediaOfTheFuture (talk) 22:17, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * see Talk:Cleopatra/Archive 5.  Aza24  (talk)   23:08, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the link User:Aza24 shares here pretty much sums up everything I know about the article views. As far as we can tell, it's because of a Samsung phone voice app suggesting a search for Cleopatra on Wikipedia. I had no idea about this until someone else pointed it out, because I'm an iPhone user. Needless to say, a lot of people use Samsung phones. Pericles of Athens  Talk 16:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

2018 Year in Review

 * thanks! If you liked that article, you'll almost certainly like the main article for Cleopatra, as well as Early life of Cleopatra and Death of Cleopatra. Pericles of Athens  Talk 19:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

cleopatra race
Hi there long time no talk! (Though a lot of see lol) I notice you also edit the Ancient Egyptian race controversy page. I was wondering you opinion of my contributions to Cleopatra's section and any recs to make it better, if you have time. Thanks! Kleopatra Selene (talk) 07:38, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello! I was just making it tidy. You did a good job on the Cleopatra sub-section if most of those edits are yours. To be honest I wasn't reading it thoroughly, I just come to see if there were any updates to the 2017 DNA study of 151 mummies from Lower Egypt in that Nature Communications/Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History report. The study found considerable West Asian genetics but little sub-Saharan influence. However, the samples used were also geographically limited to one location, the Faiyum Governorate in central Egypt (where the Roman-era Fayum mummy portraits were also found). Therefore the study did not include mummy samples from Upper Egypt (i.e. southern Egypt) where Egyptians almost certainly mixed and intermarried with Nubians of Kush originating from ancient Sudan, at least as far back as the conquest and absorption of Nubia's native Kerma culture. That would almost certainly skew the results towards a more sub-Saharan African genetic presence, but we are still unsure about it, or if this made an impact on the upper echelons of Egyptian society, the aristocracy, scribal class, and priesthood. The Fayum mummy portraits from the subsequent Roman era certainly show a diversity of looks ranging from Eastern Mediterranean Caucasian to light-skinned East African (frizzy Afro hair and all).  Pericles of Athens  Talk 12:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes most of them are mine, I've made it a mini project of sorts haha. Also that study was incredibly interesting. I believe other genetic and anthropological studies have shown the Sa'idi people / Copts of upper Egypt have barely to not at all been foreign wars so they're presumably what ethnically southern Egyptian people looked most like in ancient times. I'll try to find the particular sources. Keep up the really great work ! Kleopatra Selene (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Cleopatra
Hello PericlesofAthens, you don't happen to have a pdf version of 'Cleopatra: a biography, Oxford: Oxford University Press' by Duane W. Roller? Would appreciate it. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:10, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately no, I do not. I accessed a copy of it at my university library, but I do not have it anymore and I don't plan on consulting it again anytime soon. Best of luck in finding a suitable PDF! Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 18:59, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * (link removed) Here you go, gentlemen (sorry for interrupting). T8612  (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks lads :-). --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * cool! That should come in handy sometime. :) Thanks for sharing. Kind regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:25, 2 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, do you have Hammond & Walbank's History of Macedonia in pdf by any chance? I can't pay $440 to get it. T8612  (talk) 03:27, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * hello! Sorry, unfortunately I do not. Ouch, that sounds expensive too! Best of luck. Pericles of Athens  Talk 03:54, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

How would you like to go forward with the early life of Cleopatra? As FunkMonk has said, you as the main contributor to the article get to decide. But due to your retirement, it might be wise to have a co-nom. Векочел (talk) 13:45, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, it might be better to nominate Reign of Cleopatra. Векочел (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyright
I believe some of the pictures in the article on Marcus Aurelius are held by their respective museums. Векочел (talk) 12:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Crap. Really? Which ones? I won't add them back if they have copyright issues on their Wikimedia pages. Pericles of Athens  Talk 16:16, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The files that I've removed. Векочел (talk) 22:00, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Uh...you mean every single one? I've seen one that's literally been released into the public domain, one of the Equestrian Marcus Aurelius statue photos (the close up on the statue with nothing of substance in the background, so there is absolutely no possible copyright dispute). Take for instance also the photo of Marcus Aurelius bust next to the Lucius Verus one in the British Museum. Again, nothing in the background except for maybe blurry, out-of-focus wallpaper, which I'm sorry, is not copyrighted by the British Museum. Whoever is telling you this about the images either doesn't know what they're talking about when it comes to copyright, or they're being intentionally dishonest for whatever reason. Pericles of Athens  Talk 22:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I suppose you have no plans to get early life, reign, and death of Cleopatra to FA status? Векочел (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Not Reign of Early life, but Death of Cleopatra already is a featured article. It successfully passed the FA nomination somewhat recently. Pericles of Athens  Talk 22:47, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I hope that Early life and Reign are promoted at some point. Векочел (talk) 23:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Would you mind if I nominated Early life of Cleopatra for FA status? I've collected some sources on Cleopatra to help me. Векочел (talk) 18:18, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. You may pursue the nomination if you want, but are you sure it's ready for that? It is fleshed out somewhat, but it's not a very sizable, significantly detailed article. It does have a bunch of explanatory footnotes at least. I see that you already started the nomination process. Good luck with that, although it might not pass due to its small size and some editors thinking that it isn't thorough enough and doesn't cover all notable subjects or details about her early life. I would argue that it does since we don't know that much about her early life, but you might get complaints about it. Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 20:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, I would appreciate it if you would approach me first about nominating FA articles, especially ones that I've written almost entirely. Pericles of Athens  Talk 20:43, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

King Epiphanios, A.D. 400?
Do you perhaps know who this Epiphanios/-us might be? - LouisAragon (talk) 18:54, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * "(...) It is not certain when it was introduced in Cappadocia, but it was in use before the Roman conquest, from the time of King Archelaos (34 B.C.-A.D. 17) until that of King Epiphanios (A.D. 400; Ginzel)."


 * Mary Boyce refers to the same "Epiphanius" as being "Basil's correspondent" (Boyce, Mary A History of Zoroastrianism, Zoroastrianism under Macedonian and Roman Rule. p. 279) - LouisAragon (talk) 19:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Nevermind! Its solved, thanks to the always helpful . - LouisAragon (talk) 00:01, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Simplified submission of Wikipedia articles for external peer review
Hi, I just remembered to put a note here that the submission process for existing Wikipedia articles to a WikiJournal has been simplified a bit by creation this page: WP:WikiJournal article nominations. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 05:45, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you for today's Cleopatra: "[Epic Shakespearean announcer's voice:] BEHOLD! Cleopatra, seventh of her name! The pharaoh of Egypt; descendant of Alexander the Great's companion Ptolemy I Soter; the pious goddess who loves her father; the Living Isis (no, not that ISIS, you pleb); the Queen of Kings and mother of Julius Caesar's child Caesarion and three little rugrats belonging to Mark Antony."! - Behold! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirect
Do you think it’s better to use pipe ‘B’ for the link to ‘A’ rather than simply linking ‘B’ if ‘B’ is a redirect to ‘A’? Векочел (talk) 17:46, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't have a preference; I use either one and I have no qualms with using both in the same article, especially if it allows for a couple more useful links at choice locations for our readers. Pericles of Athens  Talk 20:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Cleopatra article
Dear Pericles, It is a great honor for me to receive this incentive. I'm working on this translation of Cleopatra because it's a high quality article. I salute you for the great research and writing work. I also translated the article Ancient Egyptian literature into Portuguese because it's a precious and thought-provoking subject. I congratulate you on your wonderful and exemplary work and on encouraging my translation. Sorry my english is not very good...

I am Brazilian. --Zoldyick (talk) 00:47, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello again! Thank you for the compliments and for also translating my other article on Ancient Egyptian literature. I didn't know about that! That's a wonderful surprise. I wish you the best of luck in translating all of this, it's really commendable. Keep up the excellent job. Pericles of Athens  Talk 02:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi again! I just wanted to make a small request. I know you must be busy like everyone else and I don't expect you to finish the article anytime soon, but could you prioritize finishing the lead section of the Portuguese article and translate the third paragraph, which is missing? It might confuse or confound some readers since the present article in Portuguese says nothing about how Cleopatra actually died! That entire context is missing except for the passing mention of it in your first paragraph. Unfortunately there is no article yet in Portuguese on the death or "morte de Cleópatra", so your Portuguese readers don't even have an option to go there to learn more about the topic. Just a thought! Thanks again for all your hard work. Cheers, Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:16, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to answer, my time is short. I'll complete the lead section in a few days by concluding the third paragraph, as you said. There is an editor who is writing an article about Cleopatra's death in Portuguese. Anyway, the work goes on. --Zoldyick (talk) 00:50, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Just a note, some of your articles have also been translated into Indonesian: Kleopatra, Makedonia (kerajaan kuno), Hubungan Romawi-Tiongkok, Dinasti Song, and Dinasti Tang. Also the translation of Dinasti Han is almost finished (only the science part remaining). Thank you for sharing your academic knowledge on Wikipedia, it has also indirectly helped other Wikis! Mimihitam (talk) 19:08, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * thank you as well for the kind words! I didn't know about all of these articles being translated into Indonesian, so I'm very glad you brought them to my attention. I'm happy to also see that my article on the Parthian Empire has been translated into other languages too. It's encouraging indeed! Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:06, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I have a short question. This sentence: "Dangerous amounts of additional gas were siphoned off via carburetor chambers and exhaust pipes." --> I can't find it in page 191-194. Or did I miss something? Thank you. Mimihitam (talk) 13:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I see what happened here! Someone removed Robert Temple (1986) as a source because his work is rather spurious, but the natural gas coming from 600 m (2000 ft) below the surface of the earth via borehole drilling to heat brine in furnaces was written about by Loewe. He just never mentioned exhaust pipes like Temple did. Therefore, I'm removing Temple and the exhaust pipe claim from the article Science and technology of the Han dynasty as well. Good catch! Pericles of Athens  Talk 14:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! I've also removed the mention of exhaust pipe & carburetor from Han Dynasty. Mimihitam (talk) 14:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thank you kindly for this! I am honored. Pericles of Athens  Talk 16:57, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Foreign relations of China
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Wuxi
Hi. I'm not sure if you're still active but if you could reinforce the history sometime that would be great, I just overhauled the article!♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:26, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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Thank you today for Mosaics of Delos, which "might seem like an arcane, niche topic but in terms of surviving Greek mosaic artwork it is of prime importance."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you today for Ethiopian historiography, "filled with a rich amount of historical details..." "... the second African-history related article ..." "... focused on a sub-Saharan African country and Semitic culture"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you today for Macedonia (ancient kingdom), "home of Alexander the Great, deserves an article worthy of His Majesty's name! It is the will of the gods and the birthright of the Macedonians to both conquer and rule this little section of Wikipedia. Like the glorious Philippeion of Olympia, Greece erected by Alexander's one-eyed father Philip II, this article has been constructed for the glory of Macedonia"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

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Historiography article
Hi. I noticed you added this to the lead of historiography. Given that you are familiar with the topic, would you be able to review the recent addition made here and the subsequent edits? Carcharoth (talk) 11:43, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. The addition to the article linked above, which has since been reverted by another editor, didn't seem like a substantial improvement to the article. Firstly it was written in very basic English, almost like it was prepared initially for Simple English Wikipedia but placed in our encyclopedia instead. Secondly, the cited source was a rather odd choice and the editor failed to cite a specific page number on top of that. The added statements were also incredibly vague and stating the obvious, to the point where it almost sounded like a parody article on Unencyclopedia. Adding these things to the WP:LEAD section and not some part of the article's main body was another peculiar choice. The lead is almost exclusively reserved for offering a WP:SUMMARY of the main body of the article, usually with an introductory paragraph that defines the absolute basics of the encyclopedic entry. So introducing new ideas into the lead section plus new inline citations, which are best left for the body of the article, was not the best choice the editor could have made. I hope you found this useful! Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 23:36, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!




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thank you kindly, and Happy New Year to you as well! Pericles of Athens Talk 07:20, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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List of Chinese inventions
Hi Pericles. Sorry, but the quality of the list is not what it used to be: Featured list removal candidates/List of Chinese inventions/archive1. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Mosaics of Delos scheduled for TFA
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Crank and Connecting Rod
Hi Pericles. Based on your past edit history I was hoping if you can help me with sourcing the crank and connecting rod section that I've added here: List of Chinese Inventions. I've used the source "International Symposium on History of Machines and Mechanisms" edited by Hong-Sen Yan, Marco Ceccarelli. However the actual paper within the book is called "Crank and Connecting Rod Mechanism" by F. Lisheng and T. Qingjun. So I am unsure how to reference this as a source. Sorry for the bother, I am new to editing wikipedia. ArchimedesTheInventor (talk) 6:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Roman empire revert
Just letting you know I basically undid your revert of my edit. All I did was add a single reference where one was asked for so I was a little surprised you reverted it. The sectioning predated my edit and your merging of them I think is much cleaner way to organize things. So I basically just added my reference back back on top of your edit. I just wanted to leave a message here in case it popped up on your watchlist and you thought I was undoing your edit for some reason. Just in case if you were reverting due to my reference let me know whats wrong and will figure something out, though I think its decent even though its bit of an old secondary source that also means its in the public domain and I linked it in the reference with the page numbers so users can check themselves rather just seeing a title and isbn number that they just have to trust says whats its citing.

Thanks Kwwhit5531 (talk) 04:45, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello. Thanks for responding. Firstly, I almost always assume good faith with editors who have a history of contributions to Wikipedia and maybe make an honest error, like you did here by removing the entire History sub-section "Transition from Republic to Empire" about Julius Caesar, Cleopatra, Mark Antony, Octavian becoming Augustus and being succeeded by Tiberius, replacing it entirely with a duplicate copy and paste of the entire sub-section "Fall in the West and survival in the East", with the fall of the Western Roman Empire and continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire. I was considering placing a soft warning on your talk page about vandalism, but with your citations I figured it was just a huge screw up and nothing nefarious. Also yes, I saw your subsequent edits and they seem just fine by me. We all make big mistakes sometimes, but please be a little more careful about editing things in the future. On that note, thanks for improving the citations of the article. Kind regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 05:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was literally just editing your talk page to tell you I was an idiot after I compared the versions. But I couldn't post since you were responding at the same time, anyway thanks that was embarrassing, I'm not even sure what I did wrong, as far as I can remember all I did was click edit section for the last section, then cite (manual), publish. How I overwrote one section with another I have no idea. I think it might have been one of the experimental features you can enable in settings, cause I've noticed article preview has been acting weird as well. So I just went into settings and hit default all to use the base Wikipedia settings, so hopefully nothing like that will happens again. --Kwwhit5531 (talk) 05:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I though you might be interested in this link I posted in the Roman Empire's external links The Digital Atlas of Roman and Medieval Civilizations its a historical geographic information system from Harvard. I plan to use it sometime to make maps in ArcGIS to use on Wikipedia, but I thought it would be a useful addition to the digital atlas' already listed since one is a dead link and the other seems to be a dutch site? (not sure what the .nu stands for), I also thought you might interested in it if you're interested roman history. Thanks --Kwwhit5531 (talk) 10:14, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * nice! That's a worthy addition to the article. Thanks for sharing. Wikimedia Commons could always use a better set of historical maps for various historical empires, the Romans included. Pericles of Athens  Talk 07:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'm gonna release some of my own work on wikimedia commons as well. This one I uploaded yesterday since its the only one I had converted to an image file, I'll probably make another version with just the railroads perfect I feel for a sherman's march article. I've got maps of several different decades of georgia, one of south carolina, one ireland, 2-3 d-day maps, battle of kurland, hejaz railroad, and probably other stuff I've forgotten about I'm a history major, gis minor so I've been making maps for classes for years and their pretty much always historical maps. Oh and the link sent you just shows the roman map, you can get to the medieval map (this is the link on the article) here, they also have a africa and chinese gis on another harvard site.--Kwwhit5531 (talk) 16:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Ethiopian historiography
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Cai Lun
PericlesofAthens, I've noticed your substantial contributions on the site, especially in the Han Dynasty in general and specifically Science of Technology in the Han Dynasty so I thought you might be the right person to ask. While I recognize that you are not as active as you once were, if you do end up seeing this message I would really appreciate any comments you could give on what I've done with Cai Lun's article. I hope to nominate it for GA (and then eventually FA) but the lack of modern sources may prevent this. However, my main concern is if I'm explaining his place in the history of paper/Chinese history correctly, so any thoughts/corrections on that would be very much appreciated. Best - Aza24 (talk) 04:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * hello! Your article looks great! It is definitely GA worthy material. Citations and sources look good from what I can see. You don't overstate his case, accurately showcasing the nuance that paper-making was a process he contributed to whereas earlier cruder forms existed in Han China before him. The only problem I saw in the article were a couple instances where you made a typo and didn't capitalize the word "Chinese", which is a proper noun (seeing how it's an ethnic group and a nationality). Bravo! I wish you best of luck in obtaining a successful nomination for GA status. Pericles of Athens  Talk 14:36, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to hear you think so - and thank you for fixing the capitalization error! To be honest, you've been something of an inspiration to me - Wikipedia wise :) I joined a couple months back with the intention of working on the biographies of early music composers (since so much attention is given to later composers) and paintings by Leonardo da Vinci. I purposely tried to stay away from bigger articles, like Medieval music/Renaissance music or Leonardo's article it self but after seeing the unbelievable amount of massive featured articles you were able to achieve, I had a change of heart. I firstly decided to work on more topics/people from Asia, as I've always been interested in Chinese and Japanese history but didn't think I'd be able to work on both (which you were able to do). And I also decided that getting these composers and paintings up to FA would be a perfect way to have enough foundation to eventually work on articles like Medieval music/Renaissance music or Leonardo da Vinci! In the far far future I hope to work on Emperor Qin and the Qin dynasty, or maybe even Confucianism. Also – you might be the only person on this Wikipedia that I have ever seen use "lol" or frankly, have a good sense of humor... I often feel like I have to speak super formely to everyone so it's nice to see that not everyone on this site takes themselves too seriously! Aza24 (talk) 23:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * hello. My advice would be to just go for it and work on Renaissance music as a GA candidate and Leonardo da Vinci as an FA candidate, improving them and submitting them, because in my estimation Wikipedia works much slower these days. I have truly lost my patience for it. Compared to how it what it was in the past it is in a kind of a Lord of the Flies situation and relatively few people bother to review articles nowadays. Believe it or not there used to be even more little tyrants populating this site, those who tried to block or stymie what you were doing in the most exhaustively pedantic ways, sometimes with exasperating ideological biases (in fact there is still one such fellow who haunts my articles trying to have them delisted because he simply has an ax to grind against anything related to historical achievements by the Chinese). I still think it's amazing that I have gotten that many FA articles passed, although GA nominations have always been remarkably easier. That would be great if you reworked the article on Qin Shihuangdi or Confucianism; I would certainly support that. I've been choosing somewhat obscure targets of late to keep my activity under the radar, doing FA articles on Ethiopian historiography and the Mosaics of Delos. However, in the past few years I have done Featured articles on more well known topics like Macedonia (kingdom) (with Ancient Macedonians as a GA article) and the most high profile one of all: Cleopatra. I'm still surprised I was able to get that one and Death of Cleopatra as successfully nominated FA articles. Sadly I just don't have the patience to do that ever again, but you're fresh and new to the site, so my advice would be to get as much done as quickly as possible before the process itself wears you down. Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 00:40, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Pericles of Athens, back again with another question about Cai Lun. His article is undergoing a GA review right now and the reviewer and I are wondering if the various emperors who are discussed (Emperor Ming, Zhang etc.) need their title before every mention, do you have any thoughts about this? Best - Aza24 (talk) 22:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Rome's Near Eastern province
Hi. What did you mean by "Rome's Near Eastern province"? Please ping me. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 09:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * hello. Not sure how you found an edit of mine from 13 years ago, but "Near Eastern" refers to the Near East, i.e. Anatolia and the Levant in West Asia. It should actually be pluralized as "Near Eastern provinces", since Rome had several provinces in the eastern Mediterranean by this time, not just one. Also, the tribute would have been from borderlands of provincial territories or interior provincial municipalities still governed by their own constitutions and local laws, as semi-autonomous republics or monarchies allied to the Romans (Socii et amici populi Romani). The only thing that would need correction here is the pluralization of the word province, because we are talking about Augustus commandeering the tribute of these provinces to bolster his own resources. Pericles of Athens  Talk 12:32, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I found it by going to the article's history page and clicking on "Find addition/removal", and then using that to find when "Near Eastern" was inserted. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 19:18, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Addition of Alexander the Great to the good topic on Macedonia
Hi Pericles, do you know whether Alexander the Great should be added to the good topic on Macedonia? It is a good article too. T8612 (talk) 12:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello. Sorry, but that's going to have to be a strong no from me, even though he's one of the most important figures in history and his very name is more well known than the actual kingdom he came from. I understand his paramount importance, but adding him to the topic would seem like an invitation for someone to then argue adding Philip II of Macedon and then another monarch, and then another, when the topic is about the kingdom itself, not its individual kings. A more suitable article added to the topic would be something like List of ancient Macedonians or better yet a new article with a list focusing exclusively on its line of kings. Pericles of Athens  Talk 20:33, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks and ask some questions
Hello, PericlesofAthens.I am a Chinese wikipedian who comes from Xi'an city (A Chinese ancient capital).Thanks for your contribution to Chinese ancient history！I found you write many FA, for instance Han dynasty and Tang dynasty. And I also want to ask and consult some questions for you. Which source is more reliable？Chinese traditional history books or foreign citation？I eager to write and enrich some articles about Chinese history, northern and southern dynasties (南北朝). It is a period a little like western middle ages. But I am confused when I saw many citations. Choosing from them is not an easy thing.Can you give me some suggestions?

BTW, you write "Tang dynasty is Chinese golden age ".I don't think so…Tang is not a sustainable empire, many turmoils happened at that time. Despite Tang has many high technology objects, it still can't compare with Song dynasty (北宋、南宋). You are right, Tang has many different and good systems to other dynasties.However,TBH,many of them is original in northern and southern dynasties,song,qi,liang,chenand some northern countries (北朝).There are many answers for the question," Which era is the ancient Chinese golden age?" and Tang is not a perfect answer I think.

In the end.The last two questions. Do you know some modern Irish history? And can you write/understand some Chinese?I once tried to write an article about Ireland (Irish great hunger 爱尔兰大饥荒, You can directly search the word“爱尔兰大饥荒” in google). I found nobody in Chinese wikipedian…Can you help me? Thanks for giving me a zone to ask and consult. I hope you enjoy a good editing life. Best wish.-波斯波莉斯 (talk) 14:44, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * hello! You are very welcome and thank you for praising my work here on English Wikipedia. I am honored. To address your first question about citations from Reliable sources, I would stick mostly to modern scholarly works published by academic institutions (universities, museums, libraries, research centers, etc.). Although we prioritize sources in the English language, they don't have to be from Western countries, and can simply be works from anywhere, including East Asia or China in particular. There's certainly nothing wrong with that, aside from the rare instance where Chinese academics and those from other countries disagree strongly on a controversial or sensitive political topic in history. You certainly won't run into any problems there with the Northern and Southern Dynasties, as most modern academic disagreements dealing with territories like Tibet or Taiwan stem from either Ming or Qing dynasty history. Pericles of Athens  Talk 04:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * As for which dynasty represents the "golden age", that was one of the few things in the WP:Lead section of the Tang dynasty article that I didn't actually write, as some other editor added it. However, I don't object to the claim or label of a golden age, as it is also frequently applied to the Han dynasty. I personally think China under the Song dynasty was culturally, intellectually, technologically and socially more advanced than either the Han or Tang empires, but most people don't refer to it as a golden age simply because of the fragmented political history of northern parts of China being ruled over by the Khitan Liao dynasty, Tangut Western Xia dynasty, Jurchen Jin dynasty, and of course the Mongols who eventually formed the Yuan dynasty. I think this is a wrong approach to judging the Song dynasty, but unfortunately most others don't see it my way and I've never seen an academic describe the Song dynasty as a golden age. A shame, because in my humble opinion I consider figures like Shen Kuo (沈括) to be the very best of what pre-modern China had to offer. Pericles of Athens  Talk 04:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I know some Irish history and I even lived in Northern Ireland (part of the UK) as a postgraduate student for several years, but it is actually not my area of expertise. I still know a bit of Mandarin Chinese from college, but I am very rusty. Believe it or not, Chinese language and history are also not my areas of expertise. I just happen to love Chinese history and view Imperial China as a sort of equivalent to the Roman Empire in East Asia that managed to regroup and outlive the Roman Empire by surviving into the 20th century with the Guangxu and Xuantong emperors of the late Qing dynasty. I would be happy to help you hunt down sources for the Northern and Southern dynasties, though! Pericles of Athens  Talk 04:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Google Books is helpful but usually has too many pages missing from previews of books. I would strongly advise searching for free online academic sources in addition to any books you might have on the topic. For instance, simply Googling "Southern and Northern Dynasties, site:edu", as the "site:edu" specification added to the end will lead you to purely academic websites, not social media blogs or pop news articles. For instance, I was able to find these interesting sources from the Michael Schwartz Library talking about calligraphy during the Northern and Southern dynasties period, or this site from the University of Southern California China Institute discussing artwork during the long period of the Six Dynasties. Best of luck to you finding what you need! Pericles of Athens  Talk 04:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Cai Lun and Tang Dynasty
PericlesofAthens, I hope you're doing well since we last spoke. You may be happy to hear that since then Cai Lun has achieved GA status! I'm thinking about FA eventually but have recently found some more sources that I'll have to implement first. I'm planning to try and get some of the other Lists of emperors to FL status to join your Han and Song dynasty ones. At the moment I'm looking at the Tang list but am unsure about what academic sources I could find a list in to reference. I see that the other two FLs reference a lot from "Bo Yang (1977). Timeline of Chinese History" – is this available online somewhere? If not, are there other sources you recall would have information on the reigns/era names/personal names etc.? Best - Aza24 (talk) 06:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

hello! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Great job on the article! Hopefully you can bring it up to FA status. As for sources, sorry I don't recall any that provide those, but best of luck in your editing! Cheers. Pericles of Athens Talk 09:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi PericlesofAthens. I know that you are a great wikipedia user, have made many fine contributions and featured articles about history topic, such as the Roman Empire, Silk road... So may you help me to transform some draft history articles to become good, for example, China–Vietnam relations, French Indochina, mister? I am really try, but still unable to make a article to reach the standard nomination. I will be so grateful, if you spend times for my request. Appreciate. Laska666 (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

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Having a hard time to correctly find the location of content related to Ancient Macedonian government
Hello!

I have found incoming links to articles Macedonia (ancient kingdom) or Government of Macedonia (ancient kingdom) for content that seems to no longer be there. Specifically:
 * redirects to . This term is also listed at with a link to . It is mentioned on several articles such as Fourth Macedonian War, Philippi and Amphipolis as either the administrative divisions of the Macedonian kingdom or the four states the Romans divided the kingdom into after the conquest.
 * had a section on Macedonia with a main article link to

There are no longer sections with these names on either Macedonia (ancient kingdom) or Government of Macedonia (ancient kingdom) articles, and the terms merides or synedrion are not even mentioned.

It is bad for the reader to have these links pointing them to nowhere. As you took part in restructuring these articles, would you have any idea of where this content may have gone, so that we could fix incoming links? Place Clichy (talk) 16:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. Thanks for bringing these to my attention. Unfortunately I don't spend much time on Wikipedia anymore as I am semi-retired and nearly fully retired as I have not made major edits in a very long time, only minor changes or updates. I did not just restructure the Macedonia (ancient kingdom), I rewrote it entirely because it was in a poor state. I then submitted it as an FAC and it is currently a Featured status article. I am the one who both created and wrote Government of Macedonia (ancient kingdom) in 2017, with only small contributions from other editors since then. I was unaware of these redirects in various other articles since I did not create or compose them. If you would like to make minor additions to the articles for Macedon and its government by linking or briefly explaining the merides and synedrion, by all means please do so. Although the term "synedrion" is not mentioned specifically in the prose, the concept is clearly outlined in the "Companions, friends, councils, and assemblies" sub-section of the government article. In the meantime, I have placed a "further info" link for "Synedrion" there. As for merides, the topic of the allied client republics and puppet states created by the Romans after their conquest of Macedon in 168 BC is outlined in the "Conflict with Rome" sub-section of the overall "History" section. Perhaps a redirect should be pointed there instead of "Institutions", but I'll leave that up to you. Regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 02:03, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

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Corrections
I appreciate your apparent zeal, but I would advise that you pay attention to the actual edit being made before charging into a "correction". The sentence before I fixed it read, "at Battle of Gaixia". I changed it to "the Battle of Gaixia", which you bizarrely imply is the opposite of my edit. I am aware that the definite article is used before the name of a battle. Italia2006 (talk) 14:22, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * oops! I must have read that wrong and was distracted while editing. It was indeed the opposite. My mistake. Pericles of Athens  Talk 14:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * We all make mistakes. Cheers! Italia2006 (talk) 14:27, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * why, thank you very much, kind stranger! It is much appreciated. I'm glad you've enjoyed my content. Cheers. Pericles of Athens  Talk 10:01, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
I have seen your edits and the use of high-profile sources around this difficult topic area is something I felt has to be appreciated and is worthy of recognition. Have a good day! --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ (talk &#9993; &#124; contribs &#9998;) 00:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind words and for this prestigious award! Very thoughtful of you. Also yes, writing various articles about ancient Macedon produced some difficulty with both sources and other editors who challenged things, but overall the effort was worth it. Cheers! Pericles of Athens  Talk 15:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes this difficulty is what IMO got me concerned a GA or FA may in fact be too difficult to impossible. But it wasn't. Have a nice day! And btw fixed this for you: Enjoy! :-) --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ (talk &#9993; &#124; contribs &#9998;) 16:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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Parthian Empire
Not sure if you brought the article Parthian Empire up to FA, but I thought I should notify you of changes made to referenced information. If you are not interested or busy, then you can just ignore this message. Stay safe. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


 * hello! Thanks for alerting me about this and restoring the information that was removed without much justification. Yes, I am the one who successfully nominated Parthian Empire for FA status. I have no objections to your additional wording "enemy in Asia", although the other editor is simply wrong. Even when one excludes Hadrian's Wall, Rome had an enormous limes border across continental Europe to defend that stretched from western Germania to the Black Sea. However, this was to secure the borders against numerous different groups, most of which were not united except for rare occasions. Tribes outside Roman control rarely banded together in a huge force to invade Roman territory before the Third Century Crisis, such as in the Cimbrian War or the Marcomannic Wars. There were plenty of invasions of Roman territory after the Parthian dynasty was replaced by the Sasanians by 224 AD, but while Parthia existed they were absolutely the largest and most dangerous threat to the Romans. There's really no comparison, and the Romans were very proactive in curbing this threat by repeatedly invading Mesopotamia. At one point during the Second Triumvirate, as the article explains, the Parthians were poised to take the Roman Levant, had replaced Rome's client ruler in Judea, and even invaded Roman Anatolia before Mark Antony's officer Publius Ventidius Bassus defeated them. Pericles of Athens  Talk 23:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, the other editor was wrong to remove the prominent link and discussion about the Silk Road from the first paragraph, with the context of Parthia being the middle power between the Roman Empire in the west and the Han Empire of China. Doing that was completely unwarranted, so thanks again for reverting his edit. Kind regards, Pericles of Athens  Talk 23:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I believe that if there are to be any changes to the article, since it is FA-level there should be more than just two editors involved in forming any decision(s). --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:47, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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Pericles at FAR
You may be interested in this. Wretchskull (talk) 13:28, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Proposed graph illustrating DNA study
Hey, I see you recently tried to illustrate the Population history of Egypt article with a certain graph. I recently tried to illustrate DNA history of Egypt with the same image. The same editor removed the graph in both bases. While I see their point that the graph might be misleading in the more general "population history" article, I don't agree that it should be excluded from an article specifically about the DNA history of Egypt. Perhaps you would like to comment on the article talk page where I have started a conversation: Talk:DNA history of Egypt Ficaia (talk) 06:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)