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article about Syed Arshad Hussain
Hello, I want to make an article on Syed Arshad Hussain. He is an Indian Physicist. He is working on Thin Film and Material Science.

He is the recipient of "Jagadish Chandra Bose" Award in 2009 for his contribution towards research in Science and technology.

Following is the website of Prof. Hussain at Tripura University: http://www.tripurauniv.in/index.php/syedarshadhussain.html

Please guide me how to proceed. Regards Souvik — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazysouvikindia (talk • contribs) 12:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Interesting for you Peridon
Hi Peridon, may you have a look there ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techala (talk • contribs) 09:39, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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Re Discovery canyon
Discovery canyon is a town water park; see the town's website. Having never come across something like that before, I wasn't sure if that would fall under organization; it was an experimental tag, if you will. I'll PROD it now, unless I turn up a copyvio. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 22:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

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GHWA Wikipdia Page
Thank you for your help with my wikipedia page. I will continue to make modifications in order to get the page up and running.

1. The page was considered a copyright infringement with promotional language - I changed the wording to a brief, non-promotional description of the NY architecture firm. 2. I added two WSJ articles as references. You had stated that they were subscriber only and therefore usless. - We are working on taking a quote from each article to post on the page. 3. Notabilty of buildings. There are about six buildings posted on the site, with Silver towers by Silverstein Properties being the only one with its own Wiki page. You had asked me to list notable aspects of the other buildings. What type of information are you looking for?

Are there any other pointers you could give me? It is very important that I get this article to remain.

Thanks, greatink -
 * It would help if you told me the title of the article - I've been out of the country for two weeks or so and can't remember everything that was going on. Also, I'm rather concerned about "It is very important that I get this article to remain.". That suggests a great deal of Conflict of Interest and possibly promotional purposes. Have you looked at WP:COI? Also, please sign posts on talk pages with ~ . Peridon (talk) 18:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back. The title of the article was Goldstein, Hill and West Architects and last week it was deleted. These are the architects and partners (who were former partners at the now dissolved costas kondylis.) It's important that I get this page to remain because it took me so long to figure out how to get all of the links right! ha. Greatink (talk) 13:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Please let me know what I will have to change/add/correct. thanks! Greatink (talk) 17:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll have to show notability as in WP:GNG sourced in reliable independent references WP:RS. Basically, in its last incarnation the article didn't show any real coverage of the firm (apart from those WSJ articles I couldn't get into.). It also didn't put forward any claim to notability. Why is this outfit more notable than Bloggs, Hempstake, Philbinn and Karrowei? It builds tall buildings. OK. Who doesn't? (In the city architecture world, anyway...) There are many companies and partnerships doing a good job - but not getting articles because no-one particularly notices them. (Same with singers and bands - they can be locally known, but 40 miles away only the uncle of the drummer has heard of them.)Put your re-creation on a user subpage labelled as a draft, and get someone to look at it before you move to mainspace. Not me - go for someone not involved. MelanieN, Boing! said Zebedee, Catfish Jim and the Soapdish, or ReaperEternal are fair minded people (as are most admins and regular editors - just look at the talk page to see what goes on...). Peridon (talk) 18:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this. We are working on it and I will create a user subpage. Greatink (talk) 19:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have created a subpage for review before posting a real article. Please let me know how it looks and what changes I will need to make. Thanks!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Greatink Greatink (talk) 14:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Peridon, it appears that my subpage was deleted. You suggested a practice page. How would I go about making a practice page that will not be deleted, in order for you to review? I also asked the same of melanieN. Thanks, Greatink (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Finger Puppet Games
This is a real recognized company in NC with a team that has developed lots of games with IMDB and MobyGames references that were attached, and part of the tech community in the Raleigh/Durham. Please check the references on the page and the talk page for the justifications and at least provide discussion on your consideration.


 * Please sign talk page posts with ~ as requested at the top. The members of the team might have developed things - the article is about this company who don't appear to have released a product yet. Please see WP:GNG for general notability, and WP:RS about reliable sources. (The company's own site doesn't count for notability.) Being a "real company" doesn't confer notability. There are thousands of real companies that don't meet the requirements for an article. Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and not a free directory. Thanks. Peridon (talk) 09:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

re; vandalism question
Hey thanks for letting me know. Alright well I believe I tagged vandalism because it seemed to be a hoax article. I did a search and found no results so I took it as someone trying to be funny and posting themselves. That is why I put vandalism/blatant hoax. So I take it this was incorrect? What would you suggest for future reference? Yeah the policy is pretty tight, I read it before I tagged and I did have the feeling something was wrong, but I went to bed :-/. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

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Nonsense
I wrote my reasons in the talk page [], as indeed we are required to do. I do not think the article is nonsense, but that it needs to be deleted for reasons stated. Perhaps I put the wrong tag, I had no intention of identifying it as nonsense. Politis (talk) 12:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest A7 - or AfD. Doesn't look particularly notable as professors go. As a tip, I'd suggest using named categories rather than numbers - too easy to make a mistake with numbers. Before I became an admin, I always tagged manually and found the names far easier to use. (I twinkle now and then these days...) I had a feeling it was a mistake, but thought I'd ask just in case. Peridon (talk) 12:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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Kaufmann Sports Management Group
Why was this page deleted? Advertising? Not enough sources? Not enough information? Thanks!

21:09, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Philip — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbukowski2012 (talk • contribs)
 * It was tagged for not showing any importance (see WP:GNG). I agreed. It also didn't have independent reliable sources WP:RS. Remember that this is an encyclopaedia, not a directory. Not every person or company gets in. Peridon (talk) 21:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Charleene Rena
FYI as i see you have deleted this one, too. JohnCD (talk) 14:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Vibe 107.6 DELETED?
I can't understand why you deleted Vibe 107.6 for? If it's not supposed to be on Wikipedia then why is this whole list of community radio stations which Vibe 107.6 is are still on here? List of community radio stations in the United Kingdom if you going to delete Vibe 107.6 you might as well get rid of all of those as well, they all do the same thing non profit organisations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen 88 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It has absolutely nothing whatever to do with being non-profit. The same applies to charities, non-profit or multi-national corporation. Notability must be shown. Apart from which, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you feel any of the others don't merit an article, please feel free to tag them and we'll look at them. Usually, the existence of an article for some time means that it's passed through the net of the New Page Patrollers and the admins who evaluate their tagging. Things do get through. A short while ago, I had to go into the Portuguese Wikipedia to change a link there because someone had found an article here that had been up for a few years was in fact total rubbish. As it was linked on pt-wiki, I had to alter things there so their link went to the right place here after I'd deleted the offending article here. We don't delete everything the patrollers tag. Unfortunately, many people have the idea that just because something is true it should have an article. No, it doesn't work like that. The BBC and its satellites and the main commercial stations have articles. Certain community stations have shown sufficient notability and have articles. (Their presenters don't, normally...) Web-based stations rarely can show enough notability - no reliable sourcing. Community stations have a very limited broadcast area, and a very limited audience in many cases. And finally, the station you are concerned with is very unlikely to be notable yet - as it hasn't even started broadcasting yet. Look at WP:GNG and WP:RS. Peridon (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Hi Peridon - my article about Kalinga Software Pvt. Lmt. was deleted, stating it is an advertisement about the company. However nowhere in the article was the company glorified and article was written from a very neutral point of view much on the line of other articles of Infosys,Wipro etc. Please suggest where I went wrong and guide me so that I can make improvement. P.S. - I seriously don't think providing General information from a neutral perspective about a decade old company(not a new starter) qualifies for an advertisement. Siddver (talk) 05:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)siddver
 * You don't think something like "The Kalingasoft Academic Center of Excellence (K-ACE) under Learning solutions provides various curricular, co-curricular and extra-curricular offerings for different segment of education institutions like schools,degree colleges, Engineering Colleges and B-Schools." is encyclopaedic, do you? I don't, and other editors and admins didn't. (I must admit, I've seen much worse....) 'Seamless integration' is also a phrase that indicates 'written by' rather than 'written about'. See WP:COI. No-one outside business speak areas talks of 'seamless integration' or 'offering solutions'. Apart from this, you don't indicate the notability of the company. A decade old? That doesn't give notability. Lots of businesses are half a century old and not notable. You give no independent references, either. The company site is not a reliable reference. I'm not saying there are lies in yours, but there have been quite a few cases where company sites cited were, to put it very mildly, less than accurate. The slideshare site is also not reliable, as the info comes from the company itself for hosting on slideshare. See WP:RS. My advice is to get your info together and get someone to look at it - someone from outside the company or the world of business speak. Then put it up in your userspace as a subpage with a very clear label of 'draft', and get someone from here to look at it. Not one of those who have deleted it previously, but someone uninvolved like User:MelanieN or User:Boing! said Zebedee, or if you're really confident, User:Mean as custard who is very experienced at spotting spam or spam-like wordings. Peridon (talk) 09:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Peridon for a detailed reply and pointing out some of the modifications. I would take care about them in future. Regarding references as you already would be knowing there are many articles in Wikipedia without any references. In case argument is primary source of information in that case I might vouch for Primary source of information for this article too( as a summer intern). Regarding other references can I use" http://www.slideshare.net/ramya8/kalingasoft-summer-internship-2011 " as it is prepared by an non employee of company.Beside I think youTube/Facebook page will not at be the option as it falls under social networking. In the other wiki articles too the many references are from insiders of company or company website itself.Thanks again for your help.Siddver (talk) 12:18, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Being without references is only OK for things that are exceptionally well-known and uncontroversial, and even then it is preferred that they should be found. Also see WP:OTHERSTUFFECISTS. You can't vouch for things - that's original research WP:OR. The slideshare page isn't reliable and is written in a promotional style. It looks very far from being independent, and has no indication of who wrote it. As an intern, one is not independent of the company. (I have always stressed to Work Experience students that they count as junior employees.) Where there are refs from company sites, there should also be the totally independent ones too for verification WP:V. Don't just take my word for this - check with the others I've mentioned or anyone else who looks reliable. (Talk pages give a good idea of an editor - avoid ones with Warnings and Blocks...) Peridon (talk) 12:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Article 'Vital Media' Deletion
Hello,

I recently submitted an article for Vital Media, however I received a deletion message from you saying "18:27, 13 June 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "Vital Media" ‎ (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)"

Are you able to provide us with what specifically was unambiguous advertising or promotion, so that we may fix the issue and so that it meets the guidelines of Wikipedia.

Thanks for your help in advance. Mark

Stayonsearch (talk) 15:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The whole thing looks like a classic promotion. 'Our' is a killer for a start. That says 'written by' not 'written about'. See WP:COI. "dBoard is easy to get, easy to use, and co-op and franchise friendly" - oh dear... "Nationally recognized leader" - no proof. In fact, no reliable references. See WP:RS. But first, see WP:GNG. Without independent proof of claims, it will fail on notability (but that's a Proposed Deletion thing). "Where he continues to work his magic, ensuring that the industry can look to Ben and Vital Media for the latest in platforms, applications, and media that will keep digital signage technology an essential element of today’s and tomorrow’s retail POS environment." Articles here should be encyclopaedic, as this is in fact an encyclopaedia. At LinkedIn you would be OK to say that. Here, no way. As I said, the whole thing looks like a 'company profile' at one of the free places like AboutUs or LinkedIn, or an extract from a brochure. Work on the notability side first - then tidy up the language and cool the passion. (A personal hate of mine, that word, I will not do business with any firm that has a passion for anything. I've even seen one with a passion for cleaning drains. That worries me... However, any admin or patroller here will react to that word. Some patrollers even Google for 'Wikipedia' and certain words to see what comes up. Some are chasing spelling errors, some are chasing spam. 'Passion', along with 'enthusiasm' and 'offer' - which you seem to have avoided - is one of the words.) Over to you... Peridon (talk) 18:32, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Notoriety
Thanks a lot. I'm sorry - it was my first article :-) I'm not an english speaker, and I felt the article was solid - especially with my new picture. I might have to lurk as a photographer a little bit more :-) Thanks! Atomicbre (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC).
 * I rather like the pic - you need a bit more in the way of establishing notability with good refs WP:RS. Get some more info into the article - with refs. Playing to 10,000 is good, but you need it in the article with proof. (It's quite a buzz when you come off afterwards - done it...) If it goes before you get it sorted, put it on a subpage in your userspace, and preferably get the article up on the Danish Wikipedia too (in Danish...). Link both ways when it's up again. If you don't know how, let me know. Peridon (talk) 19:27, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

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M2P Page
Dear Peridon, yesterday I wrote my first article for Wikipedia and got the following message 08:51, 28 June 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "M2P Consulting" ‎ (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

I value your input and advice, and can understand that you deleted the page if you think it was inappropriate. My goal with the text was to be informative, not advertising. Do you have advice as to how I could improve the page so that it meets the Wikipedia standards? Thanks very much in advance! Skytarmac1 (talk) 09:22, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a lot I can say, except to say that it wasn't deleted for advertising. All of a sudden, everyone thinks that they've been deleted for advertising, when it was for notability. Or apparent lack of it. Not every business gets in here. (Some businesses and people do, and then wish they hadn't...) Look at WP:CORP, WP:GNG and WP:RS. Peridon (talk) 19:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

William Jackson (Entrepreneur)
Dear Peridon, I wrote my first article for Wikipedia and received a message that you had deleted my article due to the reason ‎ (‎A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

My original goal was to create a stub concerning this American Business Executive. The stub page information page list this area as a category but I do not know how to create this page (even after reading the help section) Do you have advice as to how I could list the page as a stub and continue to work on the page so that it meets the Wikipedia standards? I have come across many current stub pages of individuals less notable than my subject; therefore, I assumed I could add this business executive. Thanks! Jdavis2011 (talk) 09:22, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please note that notoriety means fame for bad reasons and only equals fame if you are Bonnie or Clyde, or a back street rapper. It is a growing misuse of a word that has its own meaning as a substitute for another word that is perfectly good for its job. There's not much that I can see to indicate that the subject meets WP:BIO. Lecturing isn't notable, nor is founding a company (unless the company is notable in itself). I'm not sure how one 'harvests' a company. We get people claiming to be the CEO of something international, and when we look closer they're all of 13... OK, the lecturing bit takes him out of that category, but not into notability. You need independent reliable sources to show that he is notable - by OUR standards. Not Funk and Wagnalls or the Oxford English Dictionary. I would advise, if you are planning to re-create the article, that you first find the references WP:RS and notability, and then put it on a subpage in your userspace. Mark it 'DRAFT'. Then ask someone uninvolved for their opinion. The editors I've listed in a post above are fair-minded and should be able to give an opinion. Boing! is an admin, Melanie ought to be, and Mean as custard is a red-hot patroller. Peridon (talk) 19:18, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I was a student in one of his business courses at UCLA Extension and I would not want to place his privacy or reputation in jeopardy by posting something that he may not wish to be posted, therefore, I believe my biography may be better received elsewhere perhaps in an academic or business journal, with his permission, where it cannot be edited by others. Harvesting a company is another term for selling a company. Thanks again for your reply and advice. Jdavis2011 (talk) 09:22, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Bleg (body part)
Hello, i just recieved a message saying that you had deleted my first page 'Bleg (body part) and i was wondering why this was deleted?

Zacattack999 (talk) 22:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As I remember, as a test page. No reliable sources to establish that it is a term in use. Note that Urban Dictionary doesn't count as reliable. If you can find some sources that comply with WP:RS, try again. Peridon (talk) 15:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Bleg (body part)
Hello Peridon, Thanks for being so watchful, and maintaining the wikipedia standards. This was the first article that I wrote, and I will work on making it fit the guidelines better. But, I just received notice that my article was marked for speedy deletion for copyright infringement - 19:44, 28 June 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "Richard Reens" ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.reens.com/info.html). I am the author of the page you gave as the reason for speedy deletion, so there is no infringement there. I am the owner of that intellectual property. What am I missing about that issue? I would like the opportunity to fix these issues, and wish that my article be placed on a hold instead. Thanks in advance. Rreens (talk) 14:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at WP:COPYVIO. Any text copyright outside Wikipedia must be licensed under various things that are better explained there. It's copyright text by being on your site and open to public view, so it can't be used here - even by you - until a release is made. Peridon (talk) 15:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Johan van Sumner
Why did you delete my page? Where's all the information you deleted out of it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackaz (talk • contribs) 22:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Pac is Back
I don't know if you knew but actully Pac is Back is a CGI TV series coming in 2012 about Pac-Man. Yes I know Pac-Man allready had a TV show by Hanna Barbera but Pac is Back is by Namco & is about Pac-Man as a teenager. You can read about it on the Pac-Man wiki. Let me know if you found it. User:MrJoshbumstead


 * Acharya's Triad**

Excuse me but why did you delete the recent page I made called Acharya's triad?

I have based this triad on five years of observation at medical school and have the triad based on non medical signs. Which many are, signs and triad are allowed to be invented.

If you do not agree or understand the concept I will happily explain to you further as I understand you may not appreciate te relevance to the medical community unless you had completed medical training in the NHS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.6.225 (talk) 23:39, 29 June 2011 (UTC)