User talk:Peridon/Archives/2011/September

DRAFT Ian Manocha page
Following your advice, I have created a DRAFT Ian Manocha subpage on my userpage and would like the opinion of an editor. Would you please let me know whether you think this contains sufficient sources? Could you also let me know of any other editors who would offer their opinion? AnnMMorgan (talk) 14:21, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Peridon (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

A little help please
User:Sahaguru has written the most peculiar things on my user page, would you be so kind as to delete the page? Darkness Shines (talk) 00:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. I've put a note on their talkpage. Not an official warning, because it didn't look like an attack. Why it was done, I don't know. Peridon (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

The Church Of Ryology
How dare you insult me by deleting The Church Of Ryology saying it is a Hoax, It is my religion and was deleted for no good reason, Just because you disagree with my beliefs does not mean that you can delete the page, the seer spent a long time writing information on our religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.74.181.112 (talk) 07:47, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Yes, I can delete it - and did. I've seen a heck of a lot worse hoaxes, but a lot better too. As to disagreeing with your religion, I disagree with a lot of religions. Most of then have been around long enough to achieve notability, though. Some died out long ago, but remain of note. Some are forgotten and therefore don't have articles. When yours gets widespread - and can be proven in reliable independent sources WP:RS to be so - maybe it will be notable enough. Maybe not. We'll see. Or not, as the case may be. Peridon (talk) 10:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Are you aware of the word "Ignorance"? If not you should Google it, or there is this website called Wikipedia where you can learn things you never knew before. Just because Ryology never crossed your server screen until now makes it no less important than Truthiness or Wikilobbing. So until you delete something in ignorant little admin I would suggest keeping an open mind. Tell me would you delete the page for Christianity because it has a talking snake, or Scientology's because it speaks of aliens. It astounds me to why they placed someone so arrogant as an admin, "I don't believe in it so its not real", I don't believe in vegetables but they are quite real. The True Seer (talk) 04:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I never said that. If you saw how many 'religions' get posted here that fail WP:V verifiability (and/or WP:BOLLOCKS), you might wonder why I am being so polite. As I said above, when you can produce evidence that this is more than something made up one day (like Scientology is reputed to be in its origins), you may have a case for an article. (Like Scientology does. It's got coverage and references from independent sources.) It's not up to us to disprove your contentions. It's up to you to prove them. Please do remember that while 'Wikipedia is free', that does not mean it is free webspace where you can post what you like. Peridon (talk) 11:55, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Article recreated
James Wilkinson (producer)‎ was recreated almost immediately after you speedy deleted it. Perhaps you could delete again and salt? thanks. --Biker Biker (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted and warned politely. I feel rather fond of a sentence I put in - "Wikipedia is not for the up-and-coming - it's for the arrived (and the past-their-sell-by-date as well)". If it comes back today without drastic change, salt could be in order. Peridon (talk) 12:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Biker Biker (talk) 12:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Fine, so if I get enough people to vogue for Ryology it will stay. About how many- never mind I will get five thousand followers. The True Seer (talk) 03:59, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: Nonsense
Ok, thanks for your help. I didn't want to say it was a foreign language if it was just jibberish, I would probably look more of an idiot doing that! However, the article is of NO USE whatsoever on Wikipedia. Nobody understands what it is or what it's supposed to be. If I wrote the recipe for tapas in Spanish on Wikipedia it would be taken straight off, so I don't understand why this is being left on? RDN1F (talk) 19:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note-I've also run the article through Google translate 'detect language'. It suspected Polish, which didn't translate. I tried a few branches of African but no comprehend able English there either. If it is a foreign language it's very badly written RDN1F (talk) 19:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Because I can't think of a speedy category for it. Tapas already exists in English here and in Spanish there (I assume). This doesn't exist on another language Wikipedia. Speedy categories don't cover everything - a company can be speedied for insignificance, but a product of the same company has to be prodded (unless it can be got as spam). This one, I can understand some of it - it's referring to a Jubilee, presumably of King George V as India and Rhodesia are included. It's definitely a Bantu language - no resemblance to Polish at all, and the author of the text had the first name Hamilton. His name is mentioned in a gsearch in SA context. Whatever it is, it's not on Google Translate. It'll be Zulu or Xhosa probably, but I'm not well up enough in detecting the differences there. (I can identify many European languages, and some Asian, and have an edit history on about a dozen other language Wikipedias...) Peridon (talk) 19:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice call on the language. It was a poem in xhosa.  I just put a speedy tag on it for copyright infringement because it was published in 1936 and the author only died in 1955 - so it's probably still under copyright.  I also just fixed some vandalism on your userpage (which is why I saw this article to begin with, so it almost wa sproductive vandalism :)) Have a good day, 98.248.194.216 (talk) 05:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Redi'rect
Awes'ome. Thank's ve'ry m'u'c'h'. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:33, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Colofac has bought you a beer!

 * Down with the demon drink (hic!) Peridon (talk) 19:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Colofac (talk) 19:10, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Kalev Leetaru‎
Greetings Peridon, my response is on my talk page. RazorBrainsAndWisdomStains (talk) 14:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Peridon, have a good one! RazorBrainsAndWisdomStains (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:44, 11 September 2011 (UTC).
 * I use Firefox with an add-on called "Flashblock". Works like a freak'n charm. Enables me to use Flash only when I need it and otherwise it blocks all Flash. I don't think its entirely fair to blame webmasters for using Flash because of your personal distaste for it - it still remains the most compatible form of web development across different platforms. Seriously try the browser add-ons, they solve this user preference quite nicely (I use Flash block for Safari too). Unless your using an iPad that is - but I think Chrome and Safari both enable h.256 on YouTube don't they? RazorBrainsAndWisdomStains (talk) 23:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Like the sound of it. I use AdBlock Plus and TabKiller as addons already. I don't object to people using Flash on sites - I just think they should give a non-Flash access for those with dialup, mobile connection, or those who simply want to get info and not snazzy showing off. (I'm involved in the redrafting of a website at the moment, and we've decided that Flash is out of the question for those reasons.) I use Firefox - only keep IE because MS insist on it for updating Wimdows. Don't trust Google's Chrome. Have Opera as a reserve, but never looked at Safari. (I'm not on dialup, but have two accounts as backup. Sometimes on dongle.) Peridon (talk) 10:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, excellent points about Flash. I also have "NoScript" which is another fantastic add-on! NoScript disables everything on the site unless I give it permission. This, with the addition of AdBlock and Flashblock, makes my browsing experience soooooo much better. Its also a good idea to keep these add-ons in mind when developing websites, not just Flash. Chrome and Safari are using the Webkit engine which seems to be where things are headed (at least in the mobile realm). Well good luck with your site! RazorBrainsAndWisdomStains (talk) 11:13, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Dan88w (talk) 05:21PM, 12 September 2011 Hello you deleted my page "Dan-W" for this reason‎ (A7: Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject), I'am Dan-W and I have been trying to make a wikipedia page for a while so people can find out more about me as an artist. How can I keep this page from being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan88w (talk • contribs) 16:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. First, please sign your posts on talk pages at the end - it keeps the little bot happy. Notability, that's the thing for articles. You have to have coverage in reliable independent sources. Not blogs, tweets, Youtube, Facebook, wordpress.com, LinkedIn, AboutUs, or anything else where you (or anyone) can edit the info. Press releases (including PRwire and such) are also out. The coverage must not be just a mention. For example: "Josip Kringe said he invented the genre of bubblegum metal. No-one believes him." as part of a whole page article about bubblegum metal (which was, of course, invented by The Wrappers of Angelic Doom). The article in The Metal Gazette is about the Wrappers. It's a good reference for them. It's no use for Kringe. Opening the show at The Red Anteater (in Little Snodderton) is no good (unless the main act was The Rolling Stones doing a surprise gig for the hell of it - and they booked you). Getting the picture? Being a musician isn't inherently notable. Owning a record label isn't, either. Being on a record isn't, either. As with issuing records or publishing books, there has to be that something extra. Or something appallingly dreadful as in the case of one American soprano who could hardly hold a tune from one bar to the next, but who sold quantities of records and filled large halls. (There is dispute about whether she knew she was bad or not. That was real, unlike the examples above.) To get coverage, you must have done something. Startups get wished luck and deleted. Unsigned rappers who are trying to sell their bedroom recorded first mixtape from their Facebook page get deleted. If you haven't been put off by this catalogue of doom and gloom, create your article on a subpage of your userpage, and put DRAFT at the top. Put in all the references you have collected earlier. Then ask an admin or regular editor for an opinion. Most of us are willing to help like that when asked. Good luck with the career. Oh yeh, look at WP:COI and WP:NPOV too. Peridon (talk) 16:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Dave Largie page deleted
Hello, I'm fairly new to Wikipedia. Dave Largie was the first article that I created, after reading up about him and seeing him on television, and being surprised that there wasn't already a Wiki article about him. Could you give me the exact reason as to why it was deleted? As I'm not familiar with the process yet. Nitromatt1 (talk) 19:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look at WP:BAND and WP:RS (reliable sources), you may see why. I feel sure he's doing a good job, and will probably last a lot longer than the ones who have flash in the pan glory, but the article didn't show real notability. There's a lot of performers who don't get it, but who keep on working in the business (or even stay amateur...). (The best electric guitarist I've ever seen was backing whatever group happened to be playing in that pub, with his wife on keyboards. He could lift the most mediocre amateur or semi-pro band out of their rut. He made a living. He was happy.) Is it right or wrong, this policy? I wouldn't like to say. It's been decided by consensus. There has to be something to stop ones like the group that tried for an article - and hadn't even found their bass player at the time. No kidding. If you can show plenty of reliable source coverage, there's a chance. The rules aren't totally inflexible, and good coverage can sometimes bend them a bit. Good luck, Peridon (talk) 20:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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Meanwood Valley Partnership
Hi, I created a page yesterday that you then deleted but I don't really understand why..

17:52, 13 September 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "Meanwood Valley Partnership" ‎ (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

Meanwood Valley Partnership is a not for profit organisation set up to help the local area of Meanwood Valley. I believe the wikipedia page may have been deleted for copyright infringement but I created their website and so have all rights to repeat it's content on here or any other site.

Please will you explain the reason for it's deletion so that I can rectify any mistakes with the wikipedia page.

Thank you,

Stuart

MeanwoodVP (talk) 08:33, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a widely misunderstood facet of copyright. You cannot use text or images that are copyright elsewhere on Wikipedia, no matter who wrote them, unless there is a Creative Commons release, for fuller details of which please see WP:COPYVIO. (Incidentally, the tagger saw a copyvio, but I couldn't find the text. He assures me it was there.) However, I wouldn't advise you to go to the trouble of releasing the copyright as the text couldn't be allowed on WP anyway. As it stood, the article showed no notability or significance for the Valley or the Partnership - where is it? Why does the partnership have importance? Is this purely local importance and even the next valley wouldn't know about it? Does the valley even know about it? Was it just formed last week? And, does it have coverage in reliable independent sources? See WP:RS. That means no blogs, forums, wikis, press releases, notices posted on the church door (unless you are Martin Luther), and not the 'own site'. Newspapers of reasonably circulation and repute (probably not The Sun or the National Enquirer, and not the Scrattville and Desert Rose Gazette and Mercury, which is published once a month if the fish aren't biting) are OK. Just mentions are no good. It has to be a bit more serious than a name in a list, or a ten word quote from the chairman in an article about the local roller derby. What was wrong with your text? It was fine for YOUR website, and great for a card in the window of the local store. But this is an encyclopaedia. We don't give meeting times, or ask people who are interested to contact so-and-so. Sorry, but that comes into our idea of promotion. And promotion applies to anything from a seller online of so-called 'herbal Viagra' to a multinational to a charity rescuing victims of war to a preacher of the newest path to God. If you want to try again, you will need to take all this on board, start with DRAFT and then create it with new WP:NPOV compliant wording on a subpage of your userpage, with refs - and then ask for advice. Almost any regular editor or admin will be willing to give an opinion. Peridon (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of the The Medics
You deleted the page of the band The Medics (Dutch band) in error. You sited 'No indication of importance' as the reason. But if a new band is included in one of the most succesful games ever, namely FIFA, that IS quite important and surely notable. Many bands in previous version FIFA are propelled into fame because of inclusion the game. There is no indication that this will not happen with this band. Plus, the band (which played on many festivals already) has gained quite some media attention in the Netherlands, including articles in the biggest newssites and news papers in the Netherlands. The millions and millions of players of FIFA will surely be interested in this band. A page on the English Wikipedia is very appropiate. Please restore this page. (For the record, I do not have any affiliation with this band. I am not even a fan) Argus (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I deleted it because of a lack of shown significance. They may well be on this new game, but it isn't released yet, and despite your claim that "Many bands in previous version FIFA are propelled into fame because of inclusion", 'many' does not equal 'all'. Please see WP:CRYSTAL. We cannot assume notability or significance on the base of an as yet unreleased number in an unreleased game. Please see WP:BAND as well, as I cannot see any real claim to significance sufficient for an article given so far outside the game. I will say that it is probably a good step career-wise, and later when there is coverage in reliable independent courses (unconnected to the band, that is) to show that notability has been attained, an article will probably appear. Now is too soon. Peridon (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Metropolitan Police Role...
This user page was a work in progress and was deleted while I was editing it. I believe it was marked for immediate deletion because I temporarily copied an entire article from The Guardian newspaper from which I was extracting suitable quotes for use in the article. I see now that I should not have copied the entire article, even temporarily, but should have copied only limited selections that were to be quoted. I have deleted the entire Guardian article and would like to continue with creating the article dealing with the Metropolitan police role in the phone hacking scandal. Assuming this is not in conflict with Wikipedia policy, I will try to recreate the article.

Bryantbob (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:USERSPACEDRAFT? ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 16:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you're using copyright stuff to extract from, it's better kept on your own machine. (Probably still illegal, but you're less likely to get caught there. Best of all is kept in the newspaper. I didn't say that. I thought it was unlikely that you would be planning to put the whole thing straight onto an article. Just be sure not to breach the Official Secrets Act (especially if, like me, you've signed it at some time) and don't make incriminating calls on your mobile... Peridon (talk) 16:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I had some work on the page I'd rather not have to do over. The page was deleted while I and someone else (maybe you?) was editing it.  There were two edit sections, mine was the lower.  I deleted the copyrighted article and  copied the work I was doing from the lower section to the upper section and saved it.  But then the page was deleted.  Is it possible to restore the page as I last saved it so I will not have to start over from scratch?  There was no copyright infringement on the page I saved last.  Thanks again.  Bryantbob (talk) 16:22, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The only non-copyright bit was

"1. Early Investigation (Glade) involved limited review of documents; few victims notified 2. Royal investigation also limited in scope. Only Goodman and Mulcaire questioned. No NotW execs or other reporters."
 * The rest of the page (the lower part) I deleted was the Guardian article. You were the only editor - one edit only. Was another page deleted as well? I can't find one in your deleted contribs that wasn't user requested. The Guardian article hadn't been deleted from the page - if it had I'd not have deleted the page. Peridon (talk) 21:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking. It was only a few minutes from the time I became aware the page was tagged for deletion until it was deleted.  I was scrambling to figure out what I had done wrong and then to try and correct it.  Apparently my attempt at a fix was too late.  I'll start over.Bryantbob (talk) 21:41, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletions of Jack Sirocco and Chick Tricker
I've left a message at Fastily's talk page. I'm pretty sure both articles were written at least a year before the website was created. Maybe you could look into this? Thanks. 72.74.204.20 (talk) 02:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've restored Chick Tricker and put a note on the talk page. I deleted it at first, but then had doubts and restored it - but it was deleted again by someone else. Peridon (talk) 13:16, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

MerchantMaster.Biz Rewrite
Hi Peridon, sorry to bug but I have been trying to get MerchantMaster.Biz published but it keeps geetting flagged. I just hired a writer and he assured me that this article is much better Wikipedia material. I was wondering if you had time if you could look over MerchantMaster.Biz & I thank you for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbuckley916 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Part of the problem is that because you still have no sources in your article that show significant third-party coverage of your site, you have no claim to notability, a key guideline of Wikipedia. Moogwrench (talk) 07:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well said. I've seen the work of some hired writers who claim to be able to get things onto Wikipedia. This has usually come to light when the articles were up for deletion. (Presumably there are others who got it right - I don't know...) Save your money. Read WP:CORP and WP:RS(reliable independent sources). Note that getting a one sentence mention in an article about a general subject is no good. Coverage means articles and/or independent reviews giving you at least a quarter of a reasonable sized article (there's no actual figure given policy, this is a guideline I work to), but excluding blogs, forums, press releases (including PressWire and similar), and your own site. These aren't totally forbidden as links, but are not counted when assessing notability. If you try again, make on a subpage of your userpage - with DRAFT at the top and the references in. Then ask for advice and an opinion. I would ask you to read WP:COI as well. The last version was fairly neutral in tone, but just in case read WP:NPOV too. (Should keep you out of mischief for a bit...) Peridon (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

List of Hollyoaks: Animated characters
Hello, Peridon … Please note … Some Other Editor has tagged all of these fictional characters (created by a WP:SPA) for deletion, perhaps with an incorrect tag … they all lack WP:RS to satisfy WP:GNG, so what is the best way to get rid of them? Happy Editing! &mdash;  19:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've declined two as wrong CSD category. (and tagged them for notability doubts and no refs...) You could try AfD the lot in one go. I can't think of a CSD for fictional characters - A7 is right out, and they're not spam (and I presume not hoaxes, but I've never seen even one episode of the thing so will rely on others for checking that). I'll have a word with the author. Peridon (talk) 19:18, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

MIWA
Hi, what was wrong with my album page for MIWA? Ow can I make it so that it doesn't get deleted? Thanks. www.MiwaRocks.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melrosestudios (talk • contribs) 20:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. First, I deleted as a test page. On second thoughts, there's a better category - recording by artiste(s) who haven't got a Wikipedia article themselves. Second, there was no indication of notability or significance - and no references of any sort, let alone WP:RS reliable independent sources. Have a look at WP:BAND. Third, have a look at WP:NPOV - not a ground for deletion until it gets to the WP:SPAM level - which is neutral point of view. I would express a concern about your username, as it seems to be promoting a website (which is presumably promoting MIWA...). See WP:USERNAME. Peridon (talk) 20:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: Subpages
Never mind. I'll go offline now, and by the time I come back, everything will be solved. Ratibgreat (talk) 19:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Going on holiday, then? Peridon (talk) 20:45, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just went to bed. Editing Wikipedia till 2am doesn't go hand in hand with being in my junior year. And yeh, half the time I just let things be, in the hope of such a Jesuit-rabbi-lawyer cross getting things done. Ratibgreat (talk) 19:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Creative Commons/GNU Licensing for Book Project
''Actually, there are outfits that make up books of WP pages for sale. Legally. So far as I am aware, you don't have to license anything you have written when also quoting from WP. You do need to make the correct attribution of the quotes. Have a look at WP:COPYRIGHT. Text anyone writes here is licensed for free use elsewhere, and that's what you are planning to do, isn't it? I'll leave the helpme up in case someone wants to shoot me down in flames... Peridon (talk) 21:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)''

Do you know of any outfits that do so? Also, I read the copyright section and under the terms of the license I thought my book could be seen as a derivative work. Yes, I am taking excerpts from Wiki and using it in my book and I have attributed as necessary, but does that necessarily mean I have to give those sections away under the license because my work can be seen as a derivative of the Wiki page even though none of my work is actually going to be published on Wiki? I know other books have gotten around this issue, I just don't know how to get around the issue myself. Selfawareness (talk) 12:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Any sections you quote are already up for grabs here anyway (until someone deletes the article, or improves it...). You only need to license under CC if you take text that's licensed and alter it. Anything you write that's new and unpublished anywhere else becomes copyright to you. Things published here (like this message) are copyright to their authors, but are automatically licensed. Things published outside here are automatically copyright, and unless published on another CC licensed place or carrying a freeing disclaimer of your own, are not available for copying. (Except for the usual fair use things like brief quotes in the course of review or discussion, etc.) If you want a better opinion, I'd suggest User:Moonriddengirl who is generally regarded as the One Who Knows when it comes to copyright. I'm fairly well up on what is copyright, and whose it is, and when it becomes so, because I have to be. The licensing side is much newer to me. I never had anything to do with Creative Commons before starting to edit here. (I've never worried about the copyright of things I've written online. I once was looking for a site to back up an answer I'd given - not here - and found the ideal one. Said just what I wanted. Then I looked closer and realised I'd written it. But not there. As I wasn't losing any money on it, and no-one was claiming it as theirs, I just left it. And found another reference...) Peridon (talk) 15:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Article: School of the Future (Doukas School, Athens, Greece), Speedy deletion & New effort
Hi Peridon, I am contacting you about an article you have deleted recently on the grounds that it was considered to be an advertisement. I have considerably revised it and I believe it is in a proper form to be published. May I ask you to have a look at my user page in order to give me your feedback on the article's revision? It would be very helpful. The details of the article's deletion follow: 15:22, 9 September 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "School of the Future (Doukas School, Athens, Greece)" ‎ (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) Thank you very much, Yannisko (talk) 12:15, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Still looks much the same as when User:Panos Papoutsis created it once you get past the shortened intro. It still looks to me like a school prospectus (and if there's one of those that isn't aimed at getting bums on seats, I haven't seen it...). You might be better to ask someone who isn't involved (and who has had their dinner and tea...) for a fresh opinion. I will say that the intro reads far better than it did. While I'm on this topic, just a word about you and PP - if you are separate people, fair enough. If you're the same person, stick to one account. If the same material comes up from two different accounts, we start to get a bit twitchy... There's nothing underhand in the editing here, so I'm just making this a friendly note and not invoking sockpuppet investigations which would be a waste of everybody's time. Peridon (talk) 18:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Peridon, thank you for your precious comments. I am new at Wikipedia and I am trying to find my way through. We are not the same person, me and Yannisko although we know each other very well. The fact is that this article has been carefully reviewed by 4 different people, experts in education, and we thought it would look better if Yannisko publishes it this time, so as to demonstate that it has been reviewed by more users. But I understand very well your point. In any case, still the results are poor. I will have more people read this, not that affiliated with the school as you imply and we will see. I will probably send you a new draft of this article in the near in the future, I hope you don’t mind. Thank you for your help again.Panos Papoutsis (talk) 14:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Get them to look at the policies as well as the article. For somewhere like AboutUs or Facebook, it would be fine. (First version too...) This is an encyclopaedia, and people very often make the mistake of thinking that as it's free, and (almost) anyone can edit, that anything goes. It's not even almost anything. But you only find the policies when something has gone wrong. Look at the excellent WP:PRIMER which isn't a policy, but a guide to policies and editing. I think it ought to be compulsory reading before a first article is attempted, but people would just yick the box and plunge in anyway. Put the draft on a subpage of your userpage (something like User:Panos Papoutsis/DRAFT - click on that and you've got a subpage, or else copy that link into your usderpage and change DRAFT to what you like.) I may not be around much for a few days - if I get a dongle signal where I'm going to be, I've got discussions on a website rebuild to get through. One of the stalkers here will have a look if I can't get to it. (Haven't found out yet if they are collecting pearls of Solomonic wisdom, or looking for a chance to drag me to the stake. Might be two lots... You wouldn't have to drag me to a steak right now.) Peridon (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Message
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Regent Records (US)
Been meaning to ask you about this, but why exactly did you decline my A7 tagging on this article? There was no importance or significance stated, so in the "letter of the law" it fails A7.  ArcAngel    (talk) ) 18:56, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent_Records, there seems to have been quite a lot going on on that label that hasn't got into the enwiki article yet. (It's a bit odd that there's a better article there than there is here, but it does happen). Peridon (talk) 19:39, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. I don't check other languages so wasn't aware that was there.  Looks like there is a bit more that could be added to the English article, but still more RS are needed I think.     ArcAngel    (talk) ) 20:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Message
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Medics
Hello, You did delete the page for the Dutch band The Medics, citing A7 (Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject). As I have stated before, the significance of the subject is that a song of the band is included in the new edition of the popular soccer game FIFA, which sells millions and millions and has previously been a starter for bands. Therefore I a going to make the article again. Please do not delete it again. Thanks. Argus (talk) 11:22, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
hiiiiiiiiii, Why u deleted my page
 * I LOVE getting questions like this one..... Peridon (talk) 13:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Notbot
Hello

Just noticed your message on my talk page. Sorry, very busy at work during weekdays so not getting much of a chance to log on to Wiki apart from weekends.

Anyway, I'm not aware of anything that's been agreed that says the person can have bot in the suffix of their username as long as it has numbers after it. There's nothing in the username policy anyway, that just says you can't have the name if 'bot' is in the suffix. If you're referring to Lunarbot99, from what I've noticed they've requested to be unblocked and an experienced admin has declined the unblock request because of 'bot' being in the suffix?--5 albert square (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Page CR Narayanan.
Peridon, May I know why you delete page CR_Narayanan, a well know persanality in IT field in inida. first you need to study whether this persion is inportant or not. Just define a category A7 and delete the page. You have to give time to justify the reasion also and that day was sunday and given only few hours. This is to understand and take corrective action to WIKIPEDIA also. I want to know detail reason if you have, otherwise rebeck that page ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.234.5.110 (talk) 05:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Being an IT Officer/Manager/whatever is not of any great significance outside the company concerned. Nor is being on the jury of forums. The deletion (in the case of my action) took place nearly three hours after nomination. Speedy deletion can take place within seconds of nomination, although many of us allow a minimum of half an hour to see if anything happens. I quite often allow an hour, except in the most blatant cases, such as a 13 year old claiming to have played in the World Cup (soccer, that is...) or pages containing things like "We bake the best bagels in NY - drop in and see us at...". If you want to try again, do it on a subpage of your userpage, head it DRAFT, and show the significance of the subject with WP:RS really independent reliable sources - not profiles (which are often supplied by their subject), blogs, forums, etc.Then, ask an admin or regular editor for an opinion. Get a fresh one - not the two of us that have deleted it previously. Most of the admins and regulars are willing to give an opinion when asked, and will advise on improvements needed, or will gently say there's no hope. Ask two or more - doesn't do any harm. Peridon (talk) 13:15, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry.
Sorry, I made a mistake with Huggle. I meant Plunger-Girl. --Onewhohelps (talk) 17:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. Gone now. Peridon (talk) 17:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Sbarrismo
Hi Peridon, The article you deleted on Sbarrismo is not Hoax, is a real thing going on. We are adding references on papers in the next 48 hours. With a following of almost 1000 in Twitter, a high number for a new politician, it is quite significant that he has emerged from new media, not the old traditional, in a deep crisis, political parties. Yours, Audhumla — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.22.169.112 (talk) 17:53, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Can I advise you that Youtube and Twitter are not acceptable references here when it comes to notability? I've removed the link from your post above, as it didn't work and would be of no use to me on this machine anyway (no Flash - or possibly only the version Noah used on the Ark...). A 'new' politician needs more than that. Please see WP:POLITICIAN. I deleted as hoax because I could see virtually nothing in a Google search about the movement outside Wikipedia and social networking. Neither of those places can be used to show notability. The other one was at La Banda del Indio, which mentioned the name once and appears to be editable and so not reliable. Please see WP:RS. If the movement does exist, I would advise waiting for the proper sources to appear before trying for an article here. You might have better luck at the Spanish language Wikipedia - the different languages have different policies. Peridon (talk) 18:08, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your advice, I will look into gathering the information you say is mandatory. Regarding spanish wikipedia, it is dominated by a bunch of pseudo fascist Spaniards that do not accept new articles that are not related with Spain known related stories or are as kind as you to explain and help improve the Wikipedia. Itreid to create articles related to people currently running for presiden or representatives ( presidents on the youth branches from the main political parties, and they deleted them as hoax). Thanks again for your help Audhumla15   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Audhumla15 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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David Tolk page revised
Hi you userfied the David Tolk page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davidtolk/David_Tolk. I added some new citations and references. Can it be moved back into the article space? Thanks Davidtolk (talk) 02:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Luxoft
Hi Peridon, I offer the content for the deleted page and you deleted it but I would like to start new conversation and offer new content and I do not want to resurrect the page and go to deletion review process. Could you, please, advice me on what is the best way to recreate the page with new content as, definitely, the company is worth it. Thank you Wikiuser2001 (talk) 15:29, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So far as I can see, I didn't do anything to it. If you click on Luxoft. there appear to be three deletions and one protection against creation, all before I became an admin. I don't recall the name or the contents. I also can't see you editing any of the versions of it. If there was another name for the article, let me know; otherwise, I'd advise asking one if the admins actually involved. As I looked at it, it didn't seem to indicate much in the way of significance, and had no reliable sources WP:RS - an essential in a new article. Peridon (talk) 19:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

thank you, Peridon. I did not add content before - just offered it on the talk page. I still feel puzzled what is the best way to add content to the article? now there is no way I can add it as it is protected, and I cannot address the editor who deleted the content as he/she left Wikipedia. Thank you! Wikiuser2001 (talk) 09:27, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah. Shouldn't do it that way. Talk pages of non-existent or deleted articles get deleted as there's no real function for them. There would be no point in putting the text you suggested up as an article as it would simply be deleted as showing no significance. In the earlier days of Wikipedia, things like that could be posted, in the hope that someone would do something with them. Currently, you have to show at least some significance, and reference it. Rules and practices on other Wikipedias may (in fact, do...) differ. You cannot re-create the article as it is protected at present. This is because it was being re-created with no sign of improvement. What you are suggesting is to do this again. Not all companies get articles, because not all companies achieve coverage in reliable sources that fits our standards. This is not to say that those companies are in any way not doing their job properly and serving their customers well. It says that outside the companies and their customers, no-one has taken any much notice of them. I'm puzzled by your comment about someone who has left Wikipedia - I can't find anyone who has left. Mean as custard and JzG both appear to be active. Peridon (talk) 09:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Sidhartha Mallya
Dear Peridon, Sidhartha Mallya is son of Indian Billionaire Vijay Mallya and Sidhartha himself is a celebrity. His page was earlier created by someone but has been deleted by you. With your permission, I would like to create his page once again on Wikipedia. Kindly advice how should I proceed. You can google his name and verify that several hundred news articles talk about him. Best Regards AKS (talk) 09:50, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't stop you from re-creating the article, but would warn you that it is very likely to be deleted again. Whoever this person's father is, he doesn't appear to be notable in his own right - by OUR standards. The personal life section isn't of any help in showing notability, and looks like padding. The rumours are not encyclopaedic, and becoming a director in one of one's father's companies is hardly notable, just something to be expected. If you can make something that fits WP:BIO, and WP:RS, and doesn't fall foul of WP:BLP, fair enough. I won't delete it out of hand. Do avoid any blogs, twitters, forums, profiles, wikis, interviews where the questions are designed to glorify the subject, things written by the subject, company and/or club sites, and also Youtube, Facebook, MySpace and so on. Peridon (talk) 10:16, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Peridon, thanks for the update and information. I will refrain from creating the article as what you mentioned makes sense. However, I must also mention that this guy is on the fast track and will have his own credentials soon; but as you said - I will wait till then :-) Thanks for your help. Cheers AKS (talk) 13:39, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

ATEasy
Hi, I made some change to the ATEasy page currently located under my user page. I reword, added some content, added DRAFT on top, and provided a references to the actual manuals instead of downloads. Can I post the page back? How do I get others to review? I've asked user:panyd but she does not feel well. Thanks for your help. {WikiRonnie (talk) 18:09, 28 September 2011 (UTC)}

David Tolk
Hi, you userfied the David Tolk page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davidtolk/David_Tolk. I added some new citations and references. Can it be moved back into the article space? Thanks. Davidtolk (talk) 02:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I would not advise that yet. Please read WP:RS. The only one of your references that's any good could be the Billboard one - but I can't get into it at present. The others: your site, another site where you work, iTunes (selling a download), and npr (seeming to sell something - it says 'shop' on it). None of those can be used to show notability. They confirm you exist and make records, but nothing more - your official site isn't taken to do even that. There's quite a few 'official sites' that are total fakes. Not saying yours is, just that that's one reason why we disregard official sites as much as possible. Coverage to establish significance or notability must be independent and reliable (i.e. not editable by you and yours, not a blog, forum, MySpace & Co or press release. Or advert. Preferably not The Deadwood Gulch Bystander, Gazette and Chronicle (est 2010), published every other Tuesday (unless the fish are bitin'). You get the idea? Doesn't have to be The Herald Tribune or The Times (but it shouldn't be your Church's own paper or similar). Have another go. Peridon (talk) 17:30, 29 September 2011 (UTC)