User talk:Peridon/Archives/2013/June

Robert Crichton Wyllie
Hi, can you help me create a redirect on Robert Wyllie to Robert Crichton Wyllie.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. If there's any nonsense over it (like an attempt to take it over), let me know and I'll reprotect it. Peridon (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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User:Phogan83
Hi Peridon, I believe I made a rush to judgement on that one. As how to contact the company, but given the user's edits, it is more reasonably interpreted as a disclaimer. Cheers.--I am One of Many (talk) 18:45, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I nearly clicked the button... Real promo has more stuff in it. He/she seems to be staying within bounds so far - nothing seems to have been reverted, anyway. If more of the people had a bit of sense, like that, we'd have far fewer problems. Trouble is, I think, most of them forget how to talk English, and start to believe their own handouts. Mind you, it's even worse when politicians do... Peridon (talk) 19:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hada (surname) !

--Shirt58 (talk) 14:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Not sure why you opposed the deletion of the talk page - all it said was "rajputs r gr8", which has nothing whatever to do with Hada - or anything much else except Rajputs with inferiority complexes... Peridon (talk) 14:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

A pie for you!

 * You know something? You are probably right, however I thought it was worth a mention because she has done other stuff besides Egggate which is worth a mention. If you want to AfD it, you have my full permission.-- Laun  chba  ller  14:37, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Cecmiddlecollege
Hello Peridon, my name is Howicus. I'm messaging you about User:Cecmiddlecollege because I think they need some help, and you were the admin who declined their unblock. This user says they're a librarian who created a shared account in good faith. Their stated reason is that their class is working on a Wikipedia article about their school, and the user created one account to try and limit any vandalism the students might do. I directed them to WP:AFSE. I think this is just a well-meaning user who ran afoul of some core policies without meaning to. Any further advice you could offer them would be appreciated, as I don't have much experience with this sort of thing. Howicus (talk) 17:48, 9 June 2013 (UTC) P.S. The blocking admin is User:Alexf, but his user page says he's on vacation. Howicus (talk) 17:48, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no objection at all to them starting fresh accounts. I do realise that they made a mistake, but they can't use that name or have a multi-user account - unless the rules have changed while I blinked. (Does happen...) There's Education program/Educators as well, by the way. I'll check that Alex hasn't blocked account creation, so that they can get going afresh. Individually. Or at least so it looks like they are. It's a good idea for the tutor to post on his/her user page that they are running a project, and put this on the target talk page too. You keep going - you're doing fine. You be the nice guy... It's only a username block, and it's probably best if they don't ask for unblock in view of the probable compromise, but the tutor can say that the old account was theirs so there aren't suspicions of socking. I've just checked - no autoblock and no account creation block. Go for it... Peridon (talk) 18:54, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi. Thanks for detailing about copyright status of photographs. I have to find out the date of death of photographer. OK. thanks again.Rayabhari (talk) 12:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I was Trying again.
Thanks. I thought I was allowed to re-write the article to make it comply with Wiki Standards...Thanks for your valuable thoughts and feedback, Kind regards, Gina. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GinaLoriaBacon (talk • contribs) 21:33, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so is this the correct spot to respond? And, I apologize if I am annoying you,and yes, I do have lots to learn, so thanks for taking the time to explain things to me --GinaLoriaBacon (talk) 21:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm keeping an eye on your talk page for the time being, so you can respond there and I'll see it. (After a few days with nothing happening, I won't be, so anything new after then post here. BTW as you may know (or did you use the 'add' button?) to start a new thread on a talk page, put two pairs of = signs with the title in between the pairs (two threes of = signs makes a smaller subheading), and when replying to an existing thread, you can indent by putting a : at the start of your post (or :: and so on depending on how far things have gone). There's a lot more, but I'll tell you when you need to know. That gets you going with the basics. Peridon (talk) 22:12, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Article deletion
Hi. I had a notification about the speedy deletion of Hristo Hristov. I don't know what this article was about, but saw that you deleted it. Are you able to tell me what edit I made to it and if I was the creator? Thanks.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sort of. You created it as a redirect to your creation Christo Christov - a film person - in 2010. Recently, someone put a copyvio about a journalist over the redirect. If you want to recreate the redirect, you're welcome. With a copyvio, it's best to delete when it's the whole thing. (There was a previous article too - about a different person again.) Peridon (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've fixed the one redirect that went to the deleted page. Thought it was something minor.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

What the hell is your problem?
You deleted my article even though I contested the speedy deletion. Did not give enough time to discuss it. Are you familiar with Wikipedia rules or do I need to sit you down and lecture you about it? Read the rules for once in your pathetic little life. --Sad-Onion (talk) 20:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem here. You contested, I deleted. That's what speedy deletion is about. A decision. Any admin can make the decision. Happened to be me, this time. Articles for Deletion contains discussion. Speedy deletion doesn't. Except for copyright violation and attack, we usually give some time for objection(s), then we act. One way or the other. We don't always agree that a tag fits. You produce evidence in reliable independent sources that that really is intended by the creators to be an onion and not a very small child, and you'll be able to contest again. Peridon (talk) 09:41, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * hehe..teach you about basic policies? I would be happy to do that..   TheStrike   Σagle   12:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Marama Davidson
I'm not sure why you deleted the Marama Davidson entry. It had links to legitimate news sources and we were still in the process of writing it. She is a Green Party candidate standing for election to Parliament in New Zealand. User:manucaddie--Manucaddie (talk) 13:57, 29 May 2013 (UTC) --Manucaddie (talk) 13:57, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You'll need more than being a candidate - see WP:POLITICIAN which explains that candidature is not a notable thing. There was nothing else of significance (WP:BIO that I can see - and Facebook and Twitter are not reliable independent sources. Especially when "VOTE!" is present... Peridon (talk) 14:11, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, you could link her to the by-election Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikaroa-Rāwhiti_by-election,_2013) but here are some other independent links:



NZ Herald article



Idle No More movement story



The Gisborne Herald editorial



Waatea News story



NZ Herald on Marama as Māori language advocate



National Business Review quoting Marama on appointment of Race Relations Commissioner



Controversy after Marama insulted a 'tribal leader'



NZ Herald story on Idle No More movement quoting Marama as national leader



Radio New Zealand interview with Marama on Idle No More Aotearoa



Manucaddie (talk) 00:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No objections to you trying again - but stuff connected to the candidature doesn't really count. Nor does stuff pertaining to being the daughter of someone (notability isn't inherited except for children of very top people like ruling royalty or POTUS, or who have titles of nobility). (A potus sounds to me like it ought to be a small creature of nocturnal habits that makes strange noises in the tree outside one's window...) We have the rule about candidates to try to cut down the election time appearance of people who would otherwise not make it. If they can be shown to be notable in their own right, i.e. not as a candidate or a daughter, all well and good. I'm not looking into your references as I ought to be in bed. Have a talk with someone like User:MelanieN or User:Cindamuse. They're on a different time from mine. Peridon (talk) 01:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, can I find the stuff you deleted anywhere easily - so I can 'try again'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manucaddie (talk • contribs) 12:10, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's now at User:Manucaddie/Marama Davidson. Peridon (talk) 12:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

You deleted BetterDoctor article while I was starting to edit it
Hi Peridon, you deleted "BetterDoctor" article before I was half way editing it. You must have seen some placeholder text I dropped to the article while editing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aritulla (talk • contribs) 21:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If you create a new article, do it in your user space (at User:Aritulla/DRAFT for instance. But read WP:CORP, WP:WEB, WP:RS (reliable independent sources) first. Also, WP:NPOV (neutral point of view). Placeholders are not a good idea - we don't know whether you are finished or not. As it was, it did look finished apart from the missing location or date, and I am afraid it failed to show notability, and looked rather promotional. The missing bit wouldn't have saved it. You are free to try again, but I recommend reading the policies first. Peridon (talk) 21:28, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Wlinkster
I didn't realize you have admin rights, I assume you can't blacklist any URLs or you would have done it. Not sure tokyogirl79 can either? Anyway what I found by looking was WP:BLACKLIST looks a little advanced for me and time for bed. Maybe you can have a look? Thanks again! Tyros1972 Talk 12:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If either of us can, we both can. She's an admin too. Looking into it. Peridon (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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What are you doing answering questions on other peoples talk pages ? If I did that I would be blocked, so leave Williams talk page alone and mind your own business. --Oh, Ah, Preston Pig! (talk) 16:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * I don't think you really mean the barnstar - they're given to people who have done something good for you (or the encyclopaedia....). Now, your article. The main problem was the text. You cannot bring text in from outside Wikipedia if it has been published. Being on a website open to the public is being published, just the same as being in a book. Wikipedia is licensed under CC-BY-SA for free reuse by anyone anywhere. The text from the company site is copyright (it belongs to them), and cannot be freely used by anyone anywhere - the company would not like pieces of their website appearing on other people's sites, especially if they were rivals. The articles on Wikipedia CAN be used like that. That means that we must get rid of copyright text as soon as we find it. Apart from that, remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory. We don't list every company or person just because they want to be here. Read WP:CORP about notability for companies, and WP:RS about reliable independent sources - the references that prove that there is notability. Being big doesn't always mean notable, and being small doesn't mean not notable. Peridon (talk) 10:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Weareunited878

 * This user has done nothing but create hoax pages and engage in disruptive behaviour. Now he's put in his third unblock request today . Any chance of revoking talk page access?
 * Taroaldo   ✉   00:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yunshui has told him he's on his last chance, and I've posted to that effect too. Peridon (talk) 10:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Possible Polllilur battle sock
is creating multiple short battle articles in the style of Pollilur. Many thanks - MrX 02:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked for quacking. Peridon (talk) 10:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Harrison Hejazi
Hello, my user page (User:Harrison Hejazi) has been deleted due to criteria U2, G8. I just created Harrison Hejazi so U2 problem no longer exists. Also, the second problem (i.e., G8) was due to a mistake. I originally created a page with the title of "Harrison Hejazi", but I immediately added the speedy delete tag since I meant to create a User Page, not an article page. I would like to recreate my user page now if there is no other issue. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrison Hejazi (talk • contribs) 22:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hold on there! I make it four accounts, no - five counting this one - you've got now, and the main purpose seems to be to get your CV/biography onto Wikipedia. One account has made edits to a page about a Canadian government department, but virtually all the rest is about you. The article you posted was deleted at AfD, and I feel that a user page that is very much the same would come under WP:FAKEARTICLE (see also WP:AUTOBIO). Wikipedia is not the place for people to post their CVs or autobiographies. That's what LinkedIn and similar sites are for. A user page is for an editor here to tell us something about themselves - but preferably when they are here to make more of a contribution to the encyclopaedia. As to the accounts, you haven't actually used them for purposes such as vote stacking, misrepresentation, or such, but I advise sticking to one only. Alternative accounts are mainly used by people (especially when admins or bureaucrats) who sometimes have to edit from less than secure places. They aren't for redirects to help people find your CV... Peridon (talk) 10:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, now I have another question. Could I merge all these 4 accounts together under one of the existing accounts (let's say 'Harrison Hejazi' for example)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrison Hejazi (talk • contribs) 13:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No, accounts can't be merged. Names can be changed, but not to existing registered names. Peridon (talk) 15:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

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KCMG
You deleted an article with this title for copyright infringment. Fair enough, but in this case it might have been better, rather than deleting the article, to revert to the quite widely-used redirect that the offending article had overwritten. (I have restored the redirect.) When deleting for copyright infringment, does the process permit conveniently looking at previous versions? Stanning (talk) 06:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Reverting would have left the copyvio easily accessible, or needing to be revdeled. I forgot to recreate it as a redirect. Thanks for doing it. Peridon (talk) 19:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Deleted article
Hello Peridon,

Why specifically was my article deleted? I want to post an article about the same subject but I want to make sure it doesn't violate any rules. I can show you the new article if that's appropriate.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisworldview85 (talk • contribs) 03:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It was deleted specifically for reading being promotional, but if you reposted in article space, it would be deleted for lack of indicated significance (see WP:WEB). All your references were to the company site, which cannot be used to show notability. I've done a search looking for independent reliable sources (see WP:RS), and I'm afraid I can't find any. All there seems to be on Google is advertising, stats and a forum or two (probably advertising, but failing RS anyway). I would think your site is fairly new, and if it is, it won't have had time yet to become notable. Sorry, we're an encyclopaedia, not a directory. Not everything or everyone gets an article. BTW when posting a new thread on a talk page, please follow the instructions and add it at the bottom of the page. It's where we look first when we get a notification. Also, please sign yout talk page posts with four ~ things - that puts your sig and the datestamp on, like this: Peridon (talk) 09:10, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Article: Boris Bidjan Saberi
Hello Peridon,

I am writing regarding my article for 'Boris Bidjan Saberi' which was deleted. Is it possible for me to somehow recover the content so I can edit it to better fit the community guidelines?

Thank you,

zakirmaq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakirmaq (talk • contribs) 09:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not so much editing it needs as a total rewrite. If I userfied it for you, it would be tagged as spam almost immediately. Start afresh - find references that fit WP:RS (reliable independent sources) and work round them. Read WP:NPOV - if you are a PR person this might be an unpleasant experience, but we insist on neutral point of view here. WP:BIO is essential reading too. Is the list of 'collections' really necessary? Avoid things like "Boris was exposed to clothing from an early age" - so were we all unless brought up in certain parts of Africa or the Amazon jungle. Remember that this is an encyclopaedia, and that words like 'emblematical' and 'unique' are well avoided unless they can be proved to be absolutely correct. I'm not going to be around for five days, but you might get help or advice from User:Tokyogirl79 (who is also an admin). Peridon (talk) 10:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've emailed it to you. Peridon (talk) 12:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello Peridon,

Thank you for your feedback, I will definitely keep it in consideration for future work to better fit the community. Do you know if there is some way I could access the original article content because I have lost that file and I would like to use it as a reference to avoid making the same mistakes next time. Your help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Zakirmaq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakirmaq (talk • contribs) 12:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Not here
Peridon won't be answering any queries until some time on July 2nd. He won't even be reading them, as he will be somewhere without the necessaries to be online. Other people might see things posted here and deal with them (or just laugh quietly and go away again), but there is no guarantee of this. Peridon (talk) 20:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Shareit
Oftentimes, I come to Wikipedia to find information about unfamiliar online entities, especially before deciding to do business with them. The more popular entities typically have pages on Wikipedia, but there's an arbitrary (and fuzzy) line in the sand at which Wikipedia administrators delete unfamiliar pages for whatever reasons. The majority of the time, I think it's because the Wikipedia administrator sees the article as advertising.

The BBB is often a reprieve, but it rarely includes the amount of detail that a contribution-based resource like Wikipedia affords.

In this instance, you deleted the "Shareit" entry a few years back. I happened upon it via a link from freewebsitereport.org -- http://www.freewebsitereport.org/www.shareit.com. It appears to be an ecommerce platform of some sort with the responsible company based in Minnesota, US. I am close to engaging a multi-thousand dollar transaction using this platform and it would be very beneficial to me if I could gauge the relative risk in proceeding with this transaction. As such, I humbly request that the article be restored so that I (and others) can benefit from the wider awareness of this unfamiliar product. Alternatively, if the entry simply redirected to the "Digital River" Wikipedia entry, I think that would work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.17.120 (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC) 
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