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Create a Page for a person
Hardik Malaviya born (22 April 1991) is an Indian Artist and Graphics Designer who is best known for his work in the Bollywood Movie Go Goa Gone and he is graphics designer manager at his Company Malaviya Art placed in Gujarat India. He such has a genius mind at his work. (You can Change the words)

references : http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5910274/ http://www.vipmerkezi.net/2013-altyazili-brrip-dvdrip/go-goa-gone-2013-hdrip-film-indir-viptr-40851.html http://www.oneclickmoviez.ag/movie/6064-go-goa-gone http://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film104099.html http://www.desimovies.info/2014/04/go-goa-gone-2013-full-movie-watch.html http://www.molodezhnaja.ch/go-goa-gone.htm http://m.lucywho.com/p24729460/go-goa-gone/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardik98248 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hardik98248. I suppose those other sites copied IMDb. JohnCD (talk) 18:04, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Please explain more
the page that I made is about company which invent new products for environmental purpose and you can not find any topics in this field which is really important. I do not want to advertise the company but how can I describe new products in the world without reference? Turnado3000 (talk) 16:42, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. I've just found that your article is an almost straight copy and paste from http://www.environmental-expert.com/companies/ides-canada-inc-47095 - but that's not why it was deleted. (It should have been discovered, but wasn't. Copyright text cannot be brought into Wikipedia because WP is licensed under CC-BY-SA for free use by anyone anywhere provided WP is acknowledged as the source. Copyright text is not licensed in this way and so cannot be used here - WP:COPYVIO.) Anyway, back to why it actually was deleted. The wording was promotional (which is what company sites and directory entries are supposed to be - but encyclopaedias aren't). Saying things like "tailored to satisfy the requirements of any situation" is not encyclopaedic. It was not as bad as a lot we get - one was so full of buzz words that I never found out what the company did. Please read WP:CORP about corporate notability, and WP:RS about the reliable AND independent sources needed to prove it. If you want to try again, you must use fresh text that isn't a close paraphrase of the source, and you must show that the company has fairly widespread coverage away from the run of the mill directory entry and company supplied info things. Wikipedia is free to edit, but we have rules about what stays on, and not every company gets an article. The more specialised, out of public view, companies can't always be shown to be notable. It doesn't mean they aren't doing a good job. In fact, the vast majority of companies won't get articles. Just as not all the vast number of rappers, pastors, engineers, local council members, and junior schools won't. Peridon (talk) 18:38, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Lona1992


A tag has been placed on User talk:Lona1992 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Katieh5584 (talk) 18:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Wellesley & Co
I would like to create a page for Wellesley & Co, which I note you have taken down before. Wellesley & Co is a peer-to-peer lending firm, which is quickly growing and is likely to soon be bigger than Zopa and Ratesetter. I would ensure that the content is objective and supported by high-quality references.

Thanks,Bonnyboy1988 — Preceding undated comment added 13:08, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * First, please sign talk page posts with ~ which puts your sig and the datestamp on. OK. Size doesn't matter. Nor does quick growth. What is important is WP:CORP and proving it with reliable AND independent sources WP:RS. Also, making sure you don't fall foul of WP:SPAM or WP:PEACOCK. (We do have some interesting names for policies and guidelines - there's even a WP:DUCK...) The Zopa article is very close to the borderline, IMO. Create a draft at User:Bonnyboy1988/DRAFT (right click, open in new something and save). You're safe there from patrollers, except for copyright violation (if it's been published anywhere, don't copy it), attack (saying how rubbish a competitor is without proof), or promotion (do use a very boring tone and fight the buzz words and enthusiasm off - and keep the PR people out of the room - or preferably, out of the building...), or hoaxing (I assume the company DOES exist?). Ask for advice. Not me, I probably won't be online after today until next week. Most admins are willing to give advice, as are most regular editors. Some are grumps, though. Try again elsewhere if you get one. Or ask MelanieN who isn't an admin but knows a lot of what's what. Here's what ~ does when I type it (it'll be different for you, of course): Peridon (talk) 13:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion when creating a page for an influential instrumental album
Hello Peridon, good day

hello I am new to Wikipedia and still learning the ropes, getting the hang of it.

I am email because of the following message I got below.

23:28, 23 March 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted page Heavy migration (A9: Non-notable music by artist with no Wikipedia article)

the artist is notable and already has a Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dday_One

Please help me out. thank youBurns Rogy (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * An artist can be notable, even if individual albums aren't. Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 17:54, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * If you check the date of the creation of the artiste's article, you will see that it was a year after I'd deleted the album. A9 was OK. Peridon (talk) 20:40, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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CDH Proton Center article flagged for advertising
Hi. You deleted a page I created for CDH Proton Center. I created this page because a friend works there and there wasn't a listing currently. I can revise the post if necessary. Please help, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IChevako (talk • contribs) 20:14, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No, Katieh5584 tagged it and I deleted it. And if you are the creator, you're in violation of your editing block... Don't blame me if someone else blocks you again. OK. The article was distinctly promotional - "The CDH Proton Center prides itself on high-quality patient experience", "Learn more about CDH Proton Center at any of these links" look as if they're taken straight from the centre's own site, and "It’s also the preferred option for treating children with tumors" without reliable independent proof is not allowed. (Using stuff copied from websites or elsewhere is not allowed - see WP:COPYVIO.) Indeed, any claim should be referenced specifically to comply with WP:RS. (You can't just link www.medijournal.xx - you have to link to the relevant page.) Notability will be covered by either WP:CORP or WP:GNG. As to wording, if you work in PR, you don't stand much chance. (Same if you're in real estate - they are as bad.) Everything must be worded in a neutral grey way with no enthusiasm or hatred. PR people can't do grey, except perhaps their suits. Look at other articles - there's a 'Random page' link at the left not far below the globe. Could take you anywhere. Do remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and not every company, centre or underwater knitting club gets an article. It's dependent on notability (by our definition, not Funk and Thingy's definition). And proof by referencing. You may find older articles that aren't as required. There wasn't the patrolling that there is now - but they're being weeded out or improved. Have a read, have a think and do some Googling. Then get back to me. Put references and notes at User:IChevako/DRAFT (click and save). If you think it will pass, I'll ask someone to help you if needed. BTW please sign talk page post with four tildes ~ which comes up like this: Peridon (talk) 20:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC) only with your name instead.

Unsigned message from Pio Rehpotsirc
(please dont delete enything i post because some of them are my relatives biography so i posted it for open cases for sainthood!!)
 * Answered at poster's page. Peridon (talk) 14:35, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

i know that this page is not for promotion but ive done it for the time that some of them(promoters) need some resource they will be able to see it in the list so please dont delete them.. thanks :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pio Rehpotsirc (talk • contribs) 14:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)  ok thanks :-)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pio Rehpotsirc (talk • contribs) 15:01, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Userpage deletion
Hi. Thanks for deleting User:Viper26 (Super Mario Wiki) because I was planning to move the content there to this page.

Soarin over jersey (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:57, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Why did you create it in a place similar to the username you plan to usurp, when you planned to move it to your space? Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 00:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Grama Devate Pavada
Hi, if you enter this text into Google Translate, it looks like it is some religious text. I think it is very likely that this was copied from somewhere, but as I'm not able to read this script, I don't really know how to search for that (nor how to recognize it if I would find something). --Randykitty (talk) 16:05, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Whatever it was, LargoPlaza's found it was a copy and paste from kn-wiki. Now deleted A2. It was only posted there yesterday, so it could be perhaps a load of junk anyway. Or it could be a piece of great importance. Who knows? The length of the paragraphs suggest something to me... Peridon (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Also apparently a possible copyvio, and available under other titles... Peridon (talk) 16:36, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw the A2. Probably good riddance. Cheers! --Randykitty (talk) 17:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 May 2014

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Nomination of Innerview for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Innerview is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Innerview until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 17:49, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

i need help creating the correct article for a conglomerate
Hi i need to put some information about www.agleventis.com. Could you help me get this going? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpapa187 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Please sign talk page posts with ~ - it puts your sig and the timestamp on. OK. I've just done a Google search for "www.agleventis.com" and not found any sources that I'd consider as passing WP:RS. They're all company sites, directories, or other things like that. Not every company passes WP:CORP. This doesn't mean they're not doing a good job - it means they haven't got the independent coverage we require. Being on Wikipedia isn't like getting an award or getting certification. Some companies that have articles about them wish they didn't have them - remember that almost anyone can edit the articles here, and so long as they provide good references for what they post you can't control what is said about your company. Not like Facebook etc, where you control your own page. I'll ask MelanieN if she can take a look - she's very good at digging things out.  Hi, Melanie - any chance of having a look at this one? I've not found anything, but you're better at digging... Peridon (talk) 13:27, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Peridon, thanks for the ping. I have commented at User:Dpapa187's talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 14:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

TheLittleDuke
I saw your statement that "so far as I am concerned that takes care of the legal threat" regarding.

I had an edit conflict while replying on that user talk page, and chose to comment here rather than adding to confusion of a new user by having contradictory comments on their talk page.

I was originally telling them that I would feel more comfortable if they acknowledged the threat and retracted it, rather than their denying it was ever intended to imply a threat of legal action. Specifically, their statement that "At no time was it my intent to suggest or imply that I was threatening legal action" seems to be contrary to their actual statements which appear to be fairly unambiguous legal threats and which were posted in this deleted edit which stated: "May 27, 2014 doabitofgood.com sends a "cease and desist" to Wikimedia Foundation regarding the arbitrary and capriciapus removal of its entry by certain named individuals." as well as this Twitter post which based on their self-identification on their user page appears to be their Twitter account.

If you feel acknowledging and retracting is not necessary at this point, I won't contradict. I just wanted to better understand your reasoning. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I put in 'so far as I am concerned' on purpose - I've no objection to you declaring otherwise. I'm rather more concerned with the battleground mentality and 'can't hear that' side. I think he's starting to realise that we won't be bullied. I'm also slightly puzzled about that edit from Tomato 33. We get edits in this section from involved non-admins and some regulars - but where's this one come from? Peridon (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree - along with my concern above, my post to them also addressed the comment re: "battleground mentality" (though not as well as your reply addressed it). I had also given a quick mention that admins can still view deleted content, and that anyone can view blanked content via the history tab - as they appear to be unaware of both of those points, which may be partially related to their attempt to re-characterize their legal threat rather than acknowledging and retracting.
 * Thanks for your reply - I'll go ahead and provide an abbreviated version of my concerns to their talk page. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:18, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The Dumplings
Hi, I was wondering if you could restore the delated article The Dumplings. The band's album just debuted in Poland on the national chart, and so the band passes the WP:BAND notability criteria.  Ma y ast  ( talk ) 19:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
331dot (talk) 16:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)