User talk:Peridon/Archives/2015/February

FuturisticGroupOfWebSites
Thanks for deleting the user page please could you also delete the talk page which is a duplication of the content User talk:FuturisticGroupOfWebSites Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Talk page access revoked as well. Peridon (talk) 13:50, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Arthur Zaharchuk
Hi Can you look into this page Arthur Zaharchuk. There is a case of Edit warring. But i thought to ping you so that you can look into it and take requisite steps. Thanks. Lakun.patra (talk) 17:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Deleted and author warned. BTW There is a warning for speedy removals that's more appropriate than edit warring - the edit warring one is rather more for two people having a war, but you aren't one of them. Just like it takes two to tango, it takes two to edit war. Using that warning makes it seem as though you are warring too... You were sensible to back off and get help - you would have been able to carry on as speedy removal counts as vandalism, but getting help is the safest way to get things settled. Using the speedy removal warning can (sometimes...) get the message through when they mightn't understand edit warring. Peridon (talk) 17:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Joél Filsaime (musician) - This is a new article for a notable musician with family, business, and homes in Léogâne, Haiti.
Why was this draft article deleted? Majistra Romulus, contacted and spoke to Joél Filsaime a well-known recording artist about the future of Leogane and him running for Mayor. Joél Filsaime commonly known as J-Pimp http://www.mtv.com/artists/j-pimp/ is not a (G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban) please contact C.Fred to correct this issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jo%C3%A9l_Filsaime_(musician)
 * So far as I can see, I've not had anything to do with this - and don't plan to. You can contact any of the admins who were involved directly, but having looked at the deleted articles, I don't reckon you've got much chance without independent reliable sources WP:RS. An MTV profile doesn't count as independent, as these are usually artiste supplied, and same goes for last.fm, reverbnation and all social media. Running for mayor doesn't give any notability here WP:POLITICIAN, and not all that many elected mayors are counted as notable anyway. Peridon (talk) 18:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've changed your reference above to a plain URL as article type references on a very active talk page get left behind when the bot archives things. On a talk page, just use the URL. And please sign talk page posts with ~ which puts your sig and the date stamp on. Thanks. Peridon (talk) 18:36, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The OP is an LTAer, so I wouldn't give him too much help on how to get an article accepted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought I was suggesting that he give up... Peridon (talk) 17:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

CRG Int'l
You instructed me on name change after my name was blocked due to copyright issue. I did follow your instructions, got approval to change the name and went ahead and made a request for name change. here is what's happening: Legobot posted this message in response to my request for name change: "The request was made by CRG Int'l, not CRG Int'l; please login as CRG Int'l to request a name change" I was logged in as CRG Int'l when I made the request. So I logged out and logged in again and made teh request again. Legobot came back with the same response again: "The request was made by CRG Int'l, not CRG Int'l; please login as CRG Int'l to request a name change". I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Could you please help or explain where i am making a mistake if i have actually made one. Thank you! CRG Int&#39;l (talk) 18:45, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Right. I think there's a | after your name. Legobot says you were using User:CRG Int'l not User:CRG Int'l. Your sig on edit windows comes up as User:CRG Int&#39;l . If you've copied your sig, you've copied a | with it. Try again with the plain version. Peridon (talk) 19:16, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * User:CRG Int'l displays as CRG Int'l when the code is enabled (I've put a 'nowiki' on the first of those two). The bot will read the code version not the visual display. Peridon (talk) 19:22, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've tagged your two requests as faulty - they'll be removed by someone at CHU. Peridon (talk) 19:24, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

CRG Int'l
thank you for your reply. I did everything manually got the same response "The request was made by CRG Int'l, not CRG Int'l; please login as CRG Int'l to request a name change". I am not sure where exactly this a | is appearing after my name and how to remove it and where.. — Preceding undated comment added 20:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Do please remember to sign with ~ on talk pages like thia - and even yours. OK. The pipe | thing's gone, but you're getting an ASCII & # 39 ; (I've spaced it out to keep it visible) instead of a '. Are you typing the code or the '? I'll put a message on VP/T to get a technical person to have a look. Peridon (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I think this is a problem with Legobot, not with MediaWiki's renaming mechanism. Try just performing the rename - I'm guessing that it should work fine. Legoktm, perhaps you could take a look at this? The relevant diffs are and . — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 23:35, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's gone through - with a comment that the bot has trouble with names like this... Peridon (talk) 11:00, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Rescue Squad
Hi, Peridon! As I told you, even though I am now a High Exalted Member of the Janitorial Corps, I am still available for rescuing articles, or explaining to newbies why their article isn't going to make it, or figuring out the difference. But I suggest you might add User:Ritchie333 to your list of people to call on for borderline articles. I have to warn you, though, he is REALLY into rescue. You thought I had worked miracles on shaky articles? Wait until you see him go to work! When you have one of those situations with an article author, you might ping both of us and we'll see who gets there first. We are in different time zones so we've got you covered. --MelanieN (talk) 00:17, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support, Melanie. I just get some sort of altruistic satisfaction from turning this into this. I do regularly look at CSDs and AfDs and if I can see a particularly unlikely improvement, yet have sources to hand to cement notability, I will give it a go. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Your latest rescue prompted me to suggest to Peridon that he should put you on speed-dial. Peridon and I have a long standing arrangement: when somebody comes here asking about a deleted page, and seems sincere in wanting to improve it, he gives me a whistle. Some of the time I just wind up gently explaining to the person why their subject isn't notable, but sometimes I am able to work with them to get sourcing and make a proper Wikipedia article. Usually I don't do it all myself - I don't just, search, find, and insert the references. Rather, I talk them through how to do it themselves. I like to hope that some of them will wind up as regular Wikipedians, although truthfully most of them were here for that one article and don't do anything more. But hope springs eternal. --MelanieN (talk) 15:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. Hah! I'll see your rescue and raise you a redirect! --MelanieN (talk) 15:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, if we're playing that game, I'll see your redirect and raise you a link in mainspace :-P Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)  15:55, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I call. Seriously, I'm amazed you were even able to figure out what that bloated mass of OR was talking about - much less convert it into a coherent and properly sourced article. --MelanieN (talk) 18:06, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * If someone has learned how to look after 'their' article, and keep it within the rules, that'll do me. They might never edit anything else, but that's better than having an article that goes out of date because no-one's looking after it. To Ritchie - in my time here I've slapped quite a few references into things to stave off deletion. The article that started this off was spam at first. I made the userfication offer because that version showed that they'd started to learn. I didn't move it because I've tried that a few times without any success. Once they start talking, you can take things further. I have known one spam article writer who got a name change and did quite a bit of good editing on a variety of subjects (can't remember his name now...) - there MIGHT be more. Not many, if any. Peridon (talk) 18:24, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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Choyce Schwartz
My name is Choyce Schwartz. I simply created the article as a bio for myself as a songwriter and musician. The article was created to help my music profession and to give it supported sources to my musical background. I used content from my very own website www.choycecincere.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cschwartz725 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see the Notes section on your talk page. This explains the deletion (I hope...) Wikipedia isn't here to help people with their careers - it's here to record them when they've reached a position of real note. BTW please sign posts on talk pages with ~ - this puts your sig and the datestamp on. Like this: Peridon (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

GK at CRG
Dear Peridon when you gave me your instruction on making a new draft you said: " Create a new draft, put it in User:newname"Draft. CLick and safe. It gives you a subpage to work on with less hassle thank going into article space..." - did you mean SANDBOX? GK at CRG (talk) 21:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No - put your new name GK at CRG in instead of newname in User:newname/DRAFT like User:GK at CRG/DRAFT - note it's a / not a " - then save. Then click and save the red link. Do it on your talk page, then you'll be able to find it. This way, you can have more than one thing on the go (if you want). The 'DRAFT' in caps tells anyone that it's a work in progress. When it's done and checked, it can be 'moved' to its final title. If you try an alternative version, call it DRAFT2. Sandbox is something for playing around in. Yours would be User:GK at CRG/Sandbox. I've got one, which normally only contains a warning to cats to keep out, but can be used for testing things, or for people who are having trouble with log-in or unexplained editing problems to use as a trial place to see if they can edit away from their talk page. Sandboxes are for things you're not sure of, or just trying out for the hell of it. There is a Wikipedia general one, but I've never understood how that works. Use your own. Things in it won't go away until you want them to. But use DRAFTs for drafts. BTW if you copy that link I've done above, copy the [ and ] pairs or it won't be a link. (If you look in the edit window, you'll see there are 'nowiki' things at front and rear. Don't copy them. That's to stop the brackets working, and to make them display instead.) When you copy the thing, paste it, and save it, it'll come up as red text with no brackets in sight. This isn't as complicated as it sounds. No worse than learning where capitals go, and i before e and so on. Peridon (talk) 22:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Barry Dean (Songwriter)
Dear Peridon, I had created the page Barry Dean (Songwriter) as a project for my internship. My internship is for the publishing company in Nashville to which the songwriter Barry Dean is signed to. The article was created as a resource and information query for industry professionals to learn about Barry Dean and his accomplishments. The contents were derived from our databases and from Barry Dean himself. I would like to recreate this page and hope that it will not be deleted now that you know where the information is coming from and the intent for the page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CreativeNation1 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Please sign talk page posts with ~ which puts your sig and the dare stamp on. Now. Your style has improved greatly, but please do be aware that for notability, things must be referenced to reliable INDEPENDENT sources WP:RS. Primary and connected sources can be used for things like date of birth (usually...), but they cannot show notability. It might sound odd that we insist on sources not connected to the people who should know, but they are not likely to show the downside of anything, are they? Wikipedia is not a directory, where you only post the good things (or in the case of rappers, you turn a three day sentence for drunkenness into a year for dealing on the street...). To give an example, a company with a good turnover and profit had its products on millions of American tables every day. But no-one outside the input of raw material and output of cans (and the Infernal Revenue) had heard of them. They made own-brand goods for chain stores. No article. References must cover the subject and not just be mentions ('Joe Bloggs and Fred Smith played while the audience were arriving' is no good for anything). See what you can find and add it to your draft and let me know. Remember that being recorded by someone famous doesn't always mean you are notable too. That famous person will have a secretary to answer their mail (and sign their photos...), a manager to sort out other things, a chauffeur and whatever. They are 'essential' to the star - but are they notable? Be honest - forget for a moment who you are working for and look at like an encyclopaedia writer. Peridon (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

GK at CRG
dear Peridon. writing to you because you always diligently respond. I have put out a new article, now written from scratch in encyclopedic neutral style as a draft under my new name. don't see any edits or editors' comments. What is the next step in the process of actual publishing this article? GK at CRG (talk) 19:14, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like he's a busy lad. But - now you need the INDEPENDENT references. This looks like only stuff by him or which he's involved in. Read WP:RS about reliable independent sources. Those are what we need to know that he's been noticed outside the board rooms and whatever. I'll ping my friend who is good at this stage of things. I've put a couple of things on the top of your page, seeing as you didn't quite get the DRAFT thing I was explaining. (I was trying to keep you off your user page by telling you how to use a subpage in your user space. The user page is best used for just telling us a bit about yourself. Things like conflicts of interest can be declared there, but your new name does that anyway. Interests can be mentioned, or notes about useful stuff here that you don't want to lose the link to. This is not compulsory - some do it, some don't.) Leave the things I've put where they are until the future of the article is certain. Wording like "authority and prominent subject matter expert" definitely needs referencing independently, by the way. Peridon (talk) 19:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * You rang? 0;-D I took a look and... well, I'm sorry, but I just don't see the notability. He runs a consulting firm, he has served on government commissions, he has written a couple of books. This doesn't add up to meeting Wikipedia criteria such as WP:BIO or WP:AUTHOR or WP:PROF and above all WP:GNG. The article needs a lot of tidying up (such as converting the inline external links to references; referring to him as "Curtin" or "he" instead of the constant sycophantic references to "Dr. Curtin"; etc.). But I don't recommend doing this, because the problem isn't with the way the article is written; the problem is that I don't think the subject (Curtin himself) will qualify for an article here. Peridon is exactly right: the problem is the lack of independent references. We can't have just him, or someone from his company, saying he is a "prominent subject matter expert and early influencer of the concept of digital government"; we need outside, independent people to say it. If they haven't said it, then Wikipedia is not ready for an article about him. Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia, and it must maintain standards about who and what can have articles here. The bottom line on those standards is WP:GNG. --MelanieN (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Kyle Camac
Looks like you forgot to close the deletion for Kyle Camac when you deleted the article. Here: Articles for deletion/Kyle Camac. Wgolf (talk) 21:51, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No. I didn't forget - I didn't know. There was only Emily's 'please delete' visible when I saw the thing. I'll close it now, anyway... Peridon (talk) 21:55, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I won't. Everymorning got in with a non-admin closure - which you are entitled to do too in circumstances like this. If you're thinking of getting a mop some day, it's a good idea to get a few in. Peridon (talk) 22:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Possible sock?
After encountering User:Adendy and his/her tourguide copyvios, the next-but-one article I patrol by User:Prudyluv fits the same mould. A close enough match in time and topic to raise suspicions of sockpuppetry but no hard evidence. Can you see more? Thanks. Bazj (talk) 11:20, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I can see a duck... I'm not a checkuser, but a quack is a quack. I retagged the article as copyvio (and before I'd finished typing the request to look at their other page for a warning, it had gone). They might be different (might even be on a college course) and not know about copyvio, but we'll see. I'll not block yet but I've put them on watch. Thanks for that. Peridon (talk) 11:48, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Pings
Anyone with ping problems should see WP:VPT in the thread "Echo is not working" (I didn't know it was called 'Echo'...). Anyway, there is an apparently intermittent problem and they'd like examples. Peridon (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * What thread... &mdash;George8211 / T 21:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Err, "Echo is not working"... Peridon (talk) 21:19, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * On that page? "Echo" is mentioned 0 times according to the firefox find bar. &mdash;George8211 / T 21:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It's WP:VPT not WP:VPP. &mdash;George8211 / T 21:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops. Corrected it. Getting tired and going to bed. Peridon (talk) 21:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Message from
This was originally on your userpage, but I've moved it here.

''why did you delete my page? It's not a promotional page. I'm new to this. I'm only adding ture info about myself Place Can u in do it. Eddie''

&mdash;George8211 / T 16:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * This is the right place. Well, you (Eddie) said "...may be one of the best kept secrets in Rock-N-Roll for a long time. Otherwise known as the "VOICE OF ROCK" His battleship delivery and burning vocals have been knocking the socks off listeners...". That combines an indication of apparent non-notability with rather promotional wording. You posted something to the same effect in 2012. Please read WP:BAND about notability for musicians, and WP:RS about the reliable independent sources needed to prove it. We've been having a clamp-down on people creating 'user pages' about themselves (or their companies) when they aren't editors of the encyclopaedia itself. Quite a few seem to think that it's OK to use Wikipedia as a profile host. It isn't. If you think you pass those policies, please post some links to good sources here. I'm not reinstating your page because it was promotional. We're going to see if something new can be made that will stand as an article. BTW when you contact someone, please do it on their Talk page. George moved your message to here. Please don't create more accounts - until you become a regular editor you will only need one. The title of your article (if and when it gets going) will be Eddie Law with no rocks in it, and no User: bit in front. But if you are too well kept a secret, it won't stand up. Let me know here of some links - AFTER you've read the RS policy at least twice. (Takes that to understand it...) Peridon (talk) 17:12, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

HI I UNDERSTSND NOW WHAT YOU MEAN I HAD KNOW IDEA THAT WAS PROMTIOM THATS WHATS ON MY BIO, after a mag wrote that about me years ago and it stuck,   the other page you were talking about was not done by me in 2012  that's was a fan  that's why I made the page with rocks on it,  anyway why can I just take that part out  about the voice of rock etc  would that help. ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddielawrocks (talk • contribs) 17:37, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

And please excuse me if I'm not doing this right. I don't know code and this is way confusing. I would love to know how to set up a page with all the boxes and drop down links like all my other music friends on here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddielawrocks (talk • contribs) 17:41, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * There has to be notability first... I'll ask a friend of mine to take a look. She's better than I am at getting pages going - . Eddie, please sign your posts with the four ~ things. It helps us know who said what and when. Like this: Peridon (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I have just started to take a look, Peridon, but here's something that surprised me: the deleted userpage turns up on Google! In a very high position. I thought userpages didn't get indexed by search engines. Much less deleted uesrpages. Can you educate me? I'll be back after I do some more research. BTW I took a look at the deleted page (I can do that now!) and it's no wonder it was deleted. It was not only promotional and not encyclopedic - it was directly copied from here. To User:Eddielawrocks: that's two things you can't do: you absolutely can't copy and paste from any other published source, not even your own. And the tone of the article has to be straightforward and neutral, giving the facts of your biography and career without any embellishment or drama. Read some other articles here about musicians and you will see what I mean. OK, that's some comments about HOW this was written. I am now researching WHETHER such an article should be here at all. Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia and it has to have standards for what kind of subjects can have articles here. The general standard is WP:GNG, which says that we only have articles about subjects that have been written about significantly by independent reliable sources. The specific standard for musicians is at WP:MUSICBIO. I'll be back shortly. --MelanieN (talk) 15:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, user pages are indexed. This one will vanish again in a couple of days. There's a magic word to stop any particular page being picked up, though. I use it when people have been blocked for spam-u but have been nice about it, realising that their business doesn't pass CORP, and asking politely how to stop their talk page coming up. Takes two or three days for the spiders to find that they're not allowed in any more. If they (not the spiders...) get narky, I don't suggest. AfC and Draft: are, I think, automatically no-indexed, and possibly things like AfD and SPI. I don't really hold out much hope for this one, but thought that you might be able to find your way through it. Incidentally, I've just found that one user has made two copies of my user page, another has copied one non-boxy thing, and for some unaccountable reason there's a copy of the thing on the University of Bristol site. (I appear to be the only person that Google can find who has put three certain little words together... They relate to the dispensing of beer.) Peridon (talk) 18:02, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Now that is spooky! re: the people who copied your userpage, in particular the person who copied the entire page including your barnstars and your edit count, even though they never made any more than the two edits needed to create their userpage. The other person, who only copied portions of it, was also very short lived here. Do you have some kind of poison pill embedded in your userpage, that eliminates imitators? BTW I didn't get your ping above; good thing I stalk your page. Other people have also been complaining that pings aren't working. Got distracted from my search about Eddie who Rocks; I'll get back to it now. --MelanieN (talk) 19:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * @Peridon, if there's a user page where the barnstars have been straight copy-and-pasted from an estabilished user's page, are you allowed to remove the barnstars? — Preceding unsigned comment added by George8211 (talk • contribs)
 * I would certainly think so, but I'm not sure anyone would care; the user was a one-day wonder who hasn't been here since January 2011. If they had copied the admin userbox I would have deleted that, but apparently they didn't. Oh, I see why: Peridon didn't get the mop until a couple of months later. User:George8211, I didn't get your ping either. Pings are definitely broken. I'm getting "thanks" and talk page notices, but no pings. --MelanieN (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that standard procedure is for the copied-from user to raise an objection with the copier. As both of these seem not to be around, I'm not bothering. I would be interested to know how I got on to the University site - and why I'm not showing up at goo.ne.jp (whatever the heck that is...) any more. It is amazing where one ends up on the net. I was looking for a ref for something (elsewhere), and found a beauty. Looked closer because it was so exactly what I wanted, and realised that I'd written it. But not on that site... [end of ec] If someone has an umnerited mop, I would think that that might be removed. but I'd be inclined to put gentle pressure on first. Peridon (talk) 19:56, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * At least one other (Yopienso) has adopted my third person list format, but with all her own stuff. Some of the userboxes originate at my page, but not all created by me - anyone can use them. I take it as flattery or an insult that's so subtle no-one will get it. I worry more about people copying some of my off WP stuff - especially if they're making money out of it and I'm not... Peridon (talk) 20:01, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Funny thing about that: I sit on a city neighborhood advisory board. Recently we were updating a community plan and it needed a history section. The city hired a consultant to do the history section. When she presented it to the board I had trouble keeping a straight face, because it was copied from an article I had written about the neighborhood. Paragraph after paragraph, word for word. I wonder how much she got paid for that "research"? --MelanieN (talk) 20:08, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Back to the original question here, about an article about Eddie Law or the Eddie Law Rocks Band: I'm sorry, Eddie, but I don't find the sources we need to support an article at this time. I did a search using several search indexes, and all I could find was social media sites: youtube, Facebook, linkedin, twitter, myspace. Those don't count toward notability as Wikipedia defines it, because they are not independent reliable sources. I did find a page about you at the ReverbNation page, but again, that is not independent; like IMDb it allows people to say whatever they want about themselves. Wikipedia would not even allow a link to your Eddie-Law website, because it takes the reader to a page that asks for money. I can tell you have a real career and real fans, but at this point I'm afraid you don't meet the Wikipedia inclusion criteria of WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Maybe in a few years. --MelanieN (talk) 20:03, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

User: Eddie Law. 6:19 pm feb 26, 2015 Thanks who everyone who tryed to help me out. Thanks to Melanie for having compassion in her messages. And really explaing to me why! Funny thing this page was up for a while the way it was. so I didn't think anything of it. I have enough promotional pages as you can see if you Google my name. I'm very Big in Europe. And working on my third solo CD that's why they say ...may be one of the best kept secrets in Rock-N-Roll for a long time. These a meaning to that in the music Industry. Not a documented thing. In a nut shell. When someone needs help there call on me. But I understand to a certain point. But I will have my publicist and lawyers look into this more because I would like to have a page on here .A lot of my professional coworkers have them but theys look so cool with the boxes in the drop-down in the links I just didn't know how to do that I was taking over this page from a fan that started it so I apologize for that. I'm just gonna hang out and see what happens but thank you all for your help. Eddie Law — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddielawrocks (talk • contribs) 23:39, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Follow-up
I'm asking this in a new section because it's now completely unrelated to Eddie Law. But anyway, I asked about "theft" of barnstars because there's a user, Win 734 C, who says they're "Wikipedia's Official Administrator". They got their awards from Rjwilmsi. However, they have made 2 encyclopedic contributions -- adding pictures to articles. (The what links here also shows that they added the pictures on other language Wikipedias as well.)

So, I'm asking:
 * 1) do you think the images are copyrighted? I couldn't find anything in a quick search, but it seems unusual for someone who has such a userpage to suddenly come up with pictures for articles.
 * 2) what to do about their userpage? This isn't really life-threatening, except for the official administrator bit which a newbie might believe. &mdash;George8211 / T 20:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Pictures I usually steer clear of. However, that collage does look like something from a book or a website. It's claimed to be licensed under CC 4.0, and the last I heard, 4.0 wasn't back-compatible with 3.0, but I might have misunderstood. I'll drop a tb to Moonriddengirl as pings don't seem to be pinging. Ghakhar Mandi is the page involved, and probably Waseem Tarar as well. See what MRG thinks. Peridon (talk) 20:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, George! I see that you posted a note on their talk page, which they deleted without comment. I just posted a note too, specifically about impersonating an administrator. I don't really care about the phony barnstars, but claiming to be an administrator when you aren't one is a no-no in my opinion. --MelanieN (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * They haven't edited for 10 days, but it's too soon to see if they've left or not. I suppose that although there isn't much point in telling them (the barnstars givers), the barnstars matter would become more hot-headed if the barnstars givers knew about this.
 * It might be useful to check the global contribs. &mdash;George8211 / T 21:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * MelanieN, I've a mistake you made on Win 734 C's talk page. &mdash;George8211 / T 11:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 11:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello, MelanieN, User:George8211 and Peridon. :) I've removed all this content on the spirit of WP:TPNO and WP:BLP. I didn't find anything via Tineye concerning about the images. CC-By-SA 4.0 is evidently not back compatible for text (as it complicates reuse), but there is more wriggle room in images, so I believe that this is okay, although I can check. It's a standard licensing choice on Commons. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:05, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Uhews Unit
You're mean. The Uhews Unit Wikipedia page will live again! You will see, Peridon. You will see! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angriff8 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I see a lot of things. Quite a lot of it doesn't impress me very much... Please sign talk page posts with ~ to put your sig and a nice date/time stamp on - like this: 20:04, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Peridon (talk)

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CORGI HomePlan revised entry
Hi Peridon, back in November we spoke about CORGI HomePlan and you were kind enough to offer to take a look at a revision on my behalf once I'd found independent sources to cite for the company. You also offered to show it to a friend who specialises in 'saving' entries from deletion to offer advice. As per your suggestion, I've created it at User:Graememcg/DRAFT and I would really appreciate any feedback that you can offer from your experienced position. Graememcg (talk) 16:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been a bit tied up (no, not that way...). A quick look doesn't fill me with much hope, but I'll ping a couple of rescuers: if you are around (you may not be judging from a comment) and . I've corrected the link above. Ritchie will probably actually know what CORGIs are (as opposed to corgis) before he starts, where Melanie would have to look them up. 8-) Peridon (talk) 22:27, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Peridon and Graememcg. I took a look at the draft. It does have a few references but IMO they don't add up to the level of coverage needed to satisfy WP:CORP. One is a press release which doesn't count toward notability; one is an interview with one of the founders which is OK as far as it goes; one is a small news item about the company adding jobs; and I couldn't see the fourth one. I also did a search, and the only thing I found was a "Troubleshooter" type item in the Telegraph about someone complaining about the company. It's probably not realistic to expect this company to have WP:CORP level coverage at this time since it was only established in 2011 and has been actually selling the insurance for less than a year. Maybe as time goes by it will become more notable, although frankly this kind of company may never receive the kind of coverage that Wikipedia requires for inclusion here. Sorry, Graememcg, I know you have worked hard on this. --MelanieN (talk) 15:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - more or less what I was thinking. Maybe Ritchie can find something... Peridon (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No, not those corgis. These used to be men in overalls with a particular and easily remembered qualification in gas work. It's called 'Gas Safe' now - just hasn't got the ring... Peridon (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Coderdojo
Hi, I noticed the page Coderdojo has been deleted (several times in fact). I think could be a mistake, it was a requested article and the movement has more than 240 dojo in 24 different countries with several citation in the press since its foundation in 2011 and a lot of collaborations with other organizations and agencies. About the importance of the subject, here on wikipedia there are a lot of similar organizations with the same (Code.org) or less (Code Club) importance. Maybe the article could be improved? Thanks in advance --Borgopio (talk) 15:06, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Being a requested article merely means someone thinks there should be an article. It doesn't mean that any article on the subject is going to be accepted no matter what. Also, there being articles on other entities in the same field doesn't automatically give another entity a right to an article WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Having said that, there's no objection to you having a go. Read WP:CORP about notability, and WP:RS about the reliable independent sources needed to prove the notability. Here on the English language Wikipedia, we are stricter on these than some of the other Wikipedias are. It's a while since I've edited anything on the Italian WP, and I can't remember what their standards are. The previous version of the article didn't show any particular significance (the pass standard for speedy), and definitely no notability (the real standard applied at Articles for Deletion). If you do have a go, put it at User:Borgopio/DRAFT (click and save). In user space, you are free from worries about notability for quite some time - but advertising, hoax, copyright violation and attack are still forbidden there. It's easy to stray into promotional wording - there's so much of it around on the web that people are beginning to thing it is the correct way to write. When you've got something started, let me know and I'll ask a rescuer to have a look and possibly lend a hand. Peridon (talk) 15:24, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. I was looking for this article because I was thinking about a translation for the Italian language Wikipedia. To me is really strange to talk about a notability problem for this organization, but since the repeated deletion process maybe the article was really poor written. I think I'm going to write it in Italian language since I'm more confident :) Then maybe I'll provide a translation and ask for an hand. --Borgopio (talk) 19:29, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem sometimes is that the people who write articles know that things are notable, and don't bother to show it in the article. Peridon (talk) 19:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Malia keo
Recreated. "prohibits" the deletion of it :-p. &mdash;George8211 / T 20:52, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think C.Fred was very impressed by it. In fact, I think even Thryduulf would have deleted after that... Peridon (talk) 21:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Im credible and very nice — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maliakeo (talk • contribs) 21:21, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * You probably are, and you're certain to be prettier than me - but it's too soon for an article yet. Look at WP:BAND and get some idea of what you've got to get to first, and look at WP:RS about the reliable independent sources needed to prove it. Having an article on Wikipedia is special, and if we didn't have all these rules, we'd just be another Facebook... Good luck with the release - but that won't be enough. Self released stuff is OK for bands like Wevie Stonder who've made the notability - but for a beginner you really need loads of RS references to show that you're not just another kid singing for her mates on YouTube. You've got spark (but keep the language down a bit when talking to admins - some would have blocked you for that - and the idea of promotion (but don't do it here...). If your material is good and you can deliver it just right, you could make it. But it's a hard business - so keep other options open just in case. Once again, good luck. Peridon (talk) 21:34, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Please sign talk page posts with four ~ things. It might look silly, but it puts your sig and the datestamp on like this: Peridon (talk) 21:34, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks I'll create another wikipedia page as soon as ill release something. Maliakeo (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2015 (UTC)maliakeo
 * Wait until you can give the references - look at articles about other performers and see what they've got. Peridon (talk) 21:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Is this deletable
User:BiasedConsuela/wolftyla -- I couldn't find an appropriate speedy tag or a venue where to report it so I'll ask for your opinion -- this userpage has been edited by several different users after its creation, usually I'd revert random edits that haven't been made the owner herself. But the page seems to be about some random chick who thinks she's internet-famous or something. I don't think it belongs on Wikipedia. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 11:05, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Tricky. I refuse to believe in her being a star basketball player at that height (without springs in her footwear, or a pogo stick), but the whole thing isn't blatant hoax. It's not attack, and doesn't look like copyvio or spam (in the strictest sense). I think it's got to be MfD under FAKEARTICLE as there seems no sign of it emerging as an article (A7!!!!), and is obviously created and edited by her and/or her mates. It also stands no chance as an article. Possibly U5 might work, but it does LOOK like a draft article. U5 is more CVs and fantasy leagues etc. I'm damn glad you didn't ask this at my RfA... Peridon (talk) 11:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

user name
Hello! I am Team 77, which is one solo user. I am not part of a corporate marketing team. I am a student who is writing pages on interesting people I have had the opportunity to meet through my school's paper who deserve Wikipedia pages but don't have one. This is the second time I have been asked about my user name, is there a way to change it without starting a new account? I appreciate any help you can give. Team 77 (talk) 21:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Team 77
 * You can easily change it by going to WP:CHU and scroll down to Simple. Pick a name that will be available - but they'll soon tell you if you choose one that's already gone (John for instance - but 'Boing! said Zebedee' is a former admin, and 'Chase me Ladies I'm the Cavalry' is a current admin). Avoid corporate looking things, and things like admin, official and bot. (Bot is reserved for bots, of which there are quite a few, including SnotBot.) I just went to check out your user page - that infobox had me confused, Is there a reason for that being there? Sorry to be asking all these questions, but that obviously isn't you if you're at school. Anyway, your history will come over to the new name. Things already signed will be new name in the History, but old name in a sig. Peridon (talk) 21:28, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Question
Why did you delete the page Beyond Another world's torment? Shadowdemons (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowdemons (talk • contribs) 04:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Because it appeared to be here to advertise a self-published book with no indication of any notability for either author or book. We get a lot of people trying to publicise their self-published work here, and one or two of the big publishers try it too. Self-published books are very rarely able to pass our standard for books WP:NBOOK with proof in reliable independent sources WP:RS. Being published by a major publisher is no guarantee of an article here, but those books stand a better chance because they are more likely to receive attention by the reviewers. By reviewers, I don't mean the people who post at Amazon and Goodreads. There are even people who collect Amazon reviews because they are so obviously totally fake. Some are genuine, but as anyone can post there, we do not regard them as reliable and/or independent. The alternative to deletion by me would have been hanging round for a week with an Articles for Deletion tag on the article linking to where people would be !voting to delete for non-notability. A speedy for promoting is like an honourable discharge - everyone tries to advertise their stuff, but an AfD delete for non-notability is a millstone around the neck. I wish the author of the book all the best luck with writing, but as always, I advise keeping on trying to find a back door to a regular publisher. The profit per book is much lower than self-publishing promotes, but at least the books will be selling without the author having to do all the hard work of getting books on shelves - and selling them. There are lots of places where adverts can be slipped in, but Wikipedia isn't one of them. Another tip - get the other books written. People seeing a first volume with no sign of a follow-up may be put off. It's also a good ploy when trying with major publishers - if your series IS a series and not just one book and a few ideas, they're more likely to take an interest. Starting a book is easy. Finishing a book isn't. Finishing a series is even harder... It will be good practice, anyway. And might come in after another project takes off - Harper Lee's other book is coming out after sitting on the shelf for how many years? Peridon (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

so because it isn't a series yet you deleted it then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowdemons (talk • contribs) 23:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No - it's because it doesn't appear to be notable yet. Self-published books very rarely get to be notable because first of all, in the days of the typeset book, anything from a vanity press (pay to publish) was ignored by the critics as it was a vanity publication, and second, now with all the print on demand outfits, there are so many self-published books that the critics still stick to the regularly published ones. These stand a chance of selling because they're editorially checked, properly proof read and well publicised as they are printed in quantity (as opposed to print on demand) to go on booksellers' shelves. The publisher has an investment made in a book that CreateSpace or lulu don't. It's in their interests to get that investment back, and make a profit too. CreateSpace etc print on demand, don't do editorial checks (they may check for certain illegal things), proof read or publicise outside their own place (and Amazon - any outfit that doesn't get you on Amazon is definitely suspect...). Their involvement is low, and so are their costs. Unfortunately, so usually are the individual sales. The comment about the series not being complete was advice for getting in with a regular publisher. They will want to see evidence that it's not going to die the death with no Book 2 to sell. (Series are good news - if Book 1 has sold, Book 2 can ride in on the continuation demand, and Book 1 will get fresh purchases from those who missed it first time round.) I'm not trying to stop anyone from writing - I was once accused of trying to kill off rivals... Far from it. I encourage people to write even if they don't get published. I don't want them to be discouraged if they don't succeed. Writing can be fun even if you're not getting paid for it. And it's good to keep in practice, and to review what you've already written to see how to improve it. Peridon (talk) 11:40, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

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