User talk:Perleth

Re:Remark to article on Johann Speth
Hello Christian,

Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for your contributions! Speth's name appears differently in different sources, sometimes Johannes, sometimes Johann. You can see that "Johannes" is not simply an Internet mistake by checking Google Books:. In a situation like this we usually try to conform to standards set by someone else in an academic publication; with music and musicians the publication is usually New Grove. Which is why I reverted your edits.

However, further investigations have proven that I may have been wrong! I've done a few Google searches and it seems that "Johann" is more widely used, both in books and in recordings. I also found a reproduction of the original title page of Ars Magna, and it names the composer as ..von Johanne Spethen, spamshardenfi (?) Palatinatus Superioris. I can't figure out what language this is; but perhaps the Latin elements inspired someone (Walther maybe?) to name Speth "Johannes". I guess the page should be moved to "Johann Speth", then, and, well, my apologies!

--Jashiin (talk) 17:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the linguistic explanation :) I've added an image of the title page to the article, click it to see a larger version. If you find Walther referring to him as "Johann", we'll rename the article. --Jashiin (talk) 15:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your research! I've moved the article to Johann Speth. --Jashiin (talk) 21:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't see the Doppelmayr mention the first time I read your message. The earliest known biography of Pachelbel is his obituary (1706). Maybe it was known to Doppelmayr. Walther's 1732 account (there are two versions, the second has some corrections) draws some of its information from Doppelmayr, yes, but also adds some of Walther's own research, and.. contains some mistakes. These mistakes were corrected by Johann Mattheson some 8 years later, in Grundlage einer Ehren-Pforte (1740). Mattheson reprints the 1706 obituary and adds numerous comments, own research, etc., as well as comments on Walther's article.
 * Basically, Mattheson's reprint of the obituary, with his comments, is currently the most detailed source on Pachelbel's life. As for Doppelmayr, his book is certainly very interesting! Particularly because it also includes the only known biography of Amalia Pachelbel, Johann's daughter who became an artist - if you have access to the book, I'd be very grateful if you could expand the article on her with information from Doppelmayr. --Jashiin (talk) 21:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)