User talk:Persian Poet Gal/Archive8

Archive 8

Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks
I removed all the question posts you placed on the talk page because the article's talk page is intended to discuss changes or improvements to the articles and is not be used as a general forum for discussion. Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean with "it's not a forum?" I request the page deleted because of EXTREME controversy over the topic. Why do you delete the evidence? (Gaby de wilde 21:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC))
 * First of all what you placed was more like an extremely long question rant, not evidence.


 * What do you mean no evidence? How do you call my post a rant without addressing it? Do you mean some evidence should be ignored like Larry Silverstein's 4 000 000 000 earnings in less then 20 days!!! Those are hard facts, not something you can question??? How am I suppose to talk about the topic if people delete everything I write???(Gaby de wilde 21:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC))

'' Also this is considered a very bad-faith consideration of deletion because that page is notable enough and highly significant enough to merit an article on Wikipedia. ''

But the article is one heap of bullshit propaganda? IT NEEDS TO STOP SPREADING LIES!!

It's a subject of extreme controversy it has no place here.

Please tell me if you believe anything written on the page?(Gaby de wilde 21:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC))


 * September 11, 2001 is a day when significant terrorism took place, not propaganda (so it definitely does merit inclusion). You may also want to look at Talk:September_11%2C_2001_attacks again.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk)  21:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Everyone knows this was an inside job, It's only wikipedia who disagrees.

I'm asking you for your personal opinion. If you refuse to have one we cant really talk about anything? Address my sincere concerns you have deleted 40 kb of it? An explanation of your views would be appropriate I think?(Gaby de wilde 21:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC))

1. Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?

If you have no answer then we have to conclude the military was cooperating.

2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001?

If you have no answer then we have to conclude Ashcroft was cooperating.

3. Why were there no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane?

If you have no answer then we have to conclude the pentagon is not giving us information thus was cooperating with the conspirators.

4. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom?

5. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?

6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term boxcutters?

7. Where are the flight recorders?

8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?

9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera?

10 Why was security meeting scheduled for 9/11 cancelled by WTC management on 9/10?

11. How did they come up with the "culprits" so quickly?

Not just delete the controversy! You have to answer each and every question and show scientifically acceptable proofs. If you cant show this our disagreement over the topic means it is controversial. controversial topics have no place in wikipedia. Everyone agrees on that.

no? (Gaby de wilde 21:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC))

Wynton Rufer Edits
I would appreciate it if you would leave the Wynton Rufer page alone, the information I am attempting to post up there is factual, original research. Please inform RossNixon of this also if he is unhappy with this, I have tried to contact him several times to no avail.

Many thanks

Josao —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josao (talk • contribs) 09:44, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Josao. While it's great that you are doing research on Wynton Rufer, please keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a publisher of first instance. Wikipedia's Verifiability and no original research policies dictate that material added to Wikipedia should be cited from reliable and verifiable sources. Thanks, --Clubjuggle 14:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe Clubjuggle also summarized my stance as far as why your edits were considered unconstructive. In addition to that you were not adhering to Wikipedia's neutral-point-of-view policy by using passages like "dislike both the man and his methods."¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Poetry
Sure! You can E-mail me some poems if you want to. I will be glad to read them. Cheers. King Lopez  Contribs 09:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

champions youth cup edits
I wasn't testing or vandalising. the previous links were linking to pierre aubameyang, who is 47 and retired. and the competition is a champions YOUTH cup. willy aubameyang is a youth player for milan and so I assumed it was him doing the scoring, so I changed the links to him. I found out yesterday, however, that it's not willy but his younger brother, who is called pierre-emerick. I was going to change the links today (when I got back to my comp) but you'd already done it.

so fair enough, job done. but I don't like being accused of vandalism. espcially as if I had left it, nothing would have happened.

thankyou
thankyou for removing vandalism on my user page. Your tireless efforts are always appreciated Realist2 19:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Users
Hello Persian Poet Gal, I did this because of this. I'd like a second opinion before doing the same to another because of this. What do you think? Acalamari 17:29, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Acalamari, I already took care of it myself. These vandals probably think I cry myself to sleep with every second that vandalism isn't reverted...oh wait last night I had a break down.  So much...vandalism...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!  I'm an emotional wreck ain't I :P?  Ah Clark's lovely line is exactly what I'm thinking at the moment about all that vandalism!¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk)  00:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks Persian Poet Gal; I was certain it was a sock, but I just wanted a second opinion. :) Acalamari 01:38, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

User:TheFox4
You are fast. VERY fast. It would be a heck of a coincidence, but should we let it edit first? Or do you have checkuser info? -- But |<font color="White">seriously |<font color="White">folks  18:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * In this case it was just too obvious. Also, the username policy does permit blocks of those whose usernames resemble vandals.  Its just funny how I saw the name when I was just logging on the night before to briefly check my new messages, the incident boards, the block logs, and the new username logs.  The name was immediately familiar and I blocked it without a second thought.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  17:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

missed one...
You blocked DvorskysBot for being in inappropriate user name or unauthorized bot. However, there's another one:

Just wanted to let you know... Savie Kumara 19:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry
I am sorry for attacking you. I got angry at you and wikipedia after reading an article on prisonplanet about corporations and the governments censoring articles on your website.

I'm not trying to attack your website. I just wanted to put the truth about Microsoft.

Also I'm trying to get back at Microsoft for product activation. I'm don't like being treated like a criminal.

Please accept my apology. I've been against activation for years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hyipo (talk • contribs).
 * Apology accepted. Lots of us on this site have very strong opinions about any subject Wikipedia articles cover but it would be very biased of us to insert them so vividly.  Neutral-point-of-view means that we come close to giving the readers as balanced an analysis as possible.  Ironically my opinion is this site still doesn't cover WP:NPOV strong enough on a vast majority of its articles.  Hopefully as time passes by and more editors reach certain articles, they will become even more balanced in the future.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  16:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

(from Wolfen150)
sorry... :( —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wolfen150 (talk • contribs).
 * No problem. Just quit the vandalism and there will be nothing to worry about.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  18:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

from the Free Society of World Without Lawyers
We are saddened to see that you are part of the barristers' society that does not want word to get out that some free societies of the world have shed the unnecessary burden of lawyers in their legal systems. We hope that you reconsider your rash decision to call our work vandilism and allow it to be seen. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Sorry but rewriting world politics/legal systems into phony bologna systems is considered vandalism. Have a nice day!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  19:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

This is an outrage and completely unacceptable in a supposed "free society" like the internet. You'll be hearing from our lawyers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Please don't make Legal threats [self refactored] -- Flyguy649 talk contribs 20:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Me thinks you both need to read the page on irony. Why would a group advocating for a world without lawyers threaten to sue? It's this sort of fear of the legal system which has led us to our position that the world would be better off without lawyers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.184.220.55 (talk • contribs)
 * Me thinks you should have a nice day!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

IP vandal
That IP vandal at WP:AIV actually had had four warnings. There were a couple in late July. Yes, I know it's a school, but all the warnings were given during the same vacation. Only blocked 31 hours. --<b style="color:red;">Anthony.bradbury</b><sup style="color:black;">"talk" 22:31, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I still feel a block wasn't necessary just yet but the plethora of warnings are none-too-pretty, that's for sure.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 22:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

hmm. are you serious?
Do you really take wiki that seriously? Why spend so many hours of your life sitting at a computer. This is not a put down or a rude comment towards you, but I dont see how one could find such pleasure in looking at the definitions of words on wiki. And then making sure that there aren't any mistakes or changes made by people. You even have the ability to "block" people from wiki? My hs was permanently banned for such reasons when a HS student was messing around. I find this quite amazing. well id like to hear back from you. thanks -TySpartusseven 04:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well I'll assume good faith and take this as a well intentioned question even though its inappropriate to make single purpose accounts. I am sorry that your high school can no longer edit for an extremely long while due to the mistakes of others but understand that the blocks get progressively longer as more and more vandals abuse their editing abilities on Wikipedia.  Thus your school's IP was not blocked solely for a one time offense/one student messing around.  As far as my motivation to log onto Wikipedia and spend my time here:  I like the goal of this site to allow free content and vast labyrinths of information to the public.  I also like the thought that each reader can partake in building that information and adding a more human touch to Encyclopedias.  I dislike when people abuse that opportunity and vandalize the website just to make a point about the inaccuracies it contains.  That's my personal feelings on the matter.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  17:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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Deletion of QueerToday.com
Please let me know how we at QueerToday.com can add an article about our advocacy group without causing a violation and resulting deletion. Thanks for your valuable time.

John Hosty Contributing Editor, QueerToday.com salemmaman@gmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by John Hosty (talk • contribs).


 * Responded on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 17:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Warning vandals
Hi Persian Poet Gal, Thanks for letting me know. I'm a little knew to wikipedia editing, so please tell me what you mean by uw-1 templates? I have warned every single vandal I have reported at least once, usually twice, but perhaps another Wikipedian deleted it because my warning was not properly formatted. Thank you (Edit: Please if you can respond on my talk page) JoshEdgar 18:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Responded on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 18:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Reading now. JoshEdgar 18:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I understand. Thanks again JoshEdgar 18:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thx
Thanks for reverting that rant on my talk page ˉˉanetode╦╩ 21:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 22:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Er Huh?
Was he right or wrong on Gwoyeu Romatzyh? Upon reflection it looks like he was right...? -WarthogDemon 23:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Should I revert his picture or keep it then? -WarthogDemon 23:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. :P Crazy vandals... -WarthogDemon 23:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

,
dont tell me what to do --Plantiff Welfare 23:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No need for the large picture.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 23:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

http://bbs.kj86.com/viewthread.php?tid=38365

on that link, one of the postings is from a famous university professoer and he is writing about them tones on the chinese chracters. I have corrected them for wikipedia. --Plantiff Welfare 23:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice try slick.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 23:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * dont do that, it is incorrect. Ask a chinese wikipedian. I cant stop you from reverting it, but I advise you that people are being taught the wrong chracters and the wrong tones. Please do not revert --Plantiff Welfare 23:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Whew! That was a bit of an issue, huh? Thanks for removing the personal attack. I was going to give them a 24 block, but in retrospect I don't think they planned on doing anything constructive. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 23:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt we would have seen scholarly efforts in the field of Chinese phonemes anytime soon ;)...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 23:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I wonder if I was acting on too much good faith. I was reverting despite the fact that his version just didn't look right to me; even if I don't know much about languages... -WarthogDemon 23:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No its best to assume good faith...he was inserting a little bit of mischief here and there that starting getting me suspicious. I don't want to develop vandal-goggle-eyes so that's why I posted on the talk page and asked Ikiroid to step in before being big-bad-PPG.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  23:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well we probably should've found it suspicious. How does he know so much about spelling in Chinese when he can't even spell his username right? It's plaintiff not plantiff. :) -WarthogDemon 23:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Gwoyeu Romatzyh is pretty weird as it is. But I can guarantee you that no word (excepting acronyms) has the same letter three or four times in a row. I haven't found a language that does that. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 23:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

(from AR Argon)
"Wikipedia: where nerds fit in." Yeah, in my case, that's true.

How do you make a heading for part of an article? AR Argon 00:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Responded on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 00:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You mean like this?
Heh heh.


 * Perfect :)!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 00:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is awesome! Seriously, how many other online encyclopedia's allow their users to edit its articles? How do you make links to articles?
 * Oops. AR Argon 00:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You know what the first thing I noticed about Wikipedia is? It doesn't convey opinion, and that's a core policy here. Neutral Point of View - did I get the link right? AR Argon 00:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I like poetry too. What kind of poetry do you like? AR Argon 01:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Good morning!
Rise and shine! How was your sleep? Guess what? I got a new sig! -- AR <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  07:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Waydda minute! It's still night! Oh well. -- AR <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  07:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes its quite late in California actually. I just can't sleep tonight, not really logging in but I felt like tweaking my user pages a bit.  As far as poetry, there is no genre or style I particularly like more than others.  I just like anything that sounds good and brings a smile to my face :).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  07:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You know something? I agree. It's art with words. And if you think you're up late, I live

in Alberta, and it is currently 3:00 a.m. in the morning and I am up against my parents wishes, though the only real consequence I get is sleep deprivation. It should only be around 12:30-1:00 a.m. there. And I am a night person. Oh, and I got a new signature. -- AR <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  09:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice signature; its simple, clean, and elegant! Its about time I head to bed (its about 2:16 a.m. not 1:16).  I really need to get some sleep before Saturday.  I got to be well rested to take a dreadful ELM (Entry Level Mathematics exam) to determine my GE math course for college.  Mathematics never makes me feel too cheery to be honest...ugh.  I possess no talent for numbers.  I'm exempt from the EPT (English Placement Test) though due to scoring 620 on my SAT English ^_^.  September's going to be hectic month once I start my first semester.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  09:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I wonder. What do administrators do, anyways? Is it a positon of high authority and respect? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  20:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * To be honest, its best to treat it as "no big deal" (quote from Jimbo Wales). In reality we're mostly janitors.  We clean up graffiti, block the vandals who insert them, delete pages which do not meet standards of inclusion, protect pages that are being edit warred over or being vandal targeted, participate in community discussions, etc.  It may look glamorous but its definitely not what I'd call living a "high-life" on Wikipedia.  In reality the position should never be treated that way anyway.  Best just to help around as an editor who just has a few more tools in their basket.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  20:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So it's not all it's cracked up to be, even though it ain't cracked up very much. Is the picture on your user page a picture you uploaded? And how exactly do you upload an image? Do you need a scanner connected to the computer or some other external source? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  21:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually that picture was a picture uploaded by another user and it has a public domain license that permits use on any page of Wikipedia. You can upload pictures here make sure to choose the appropriate image license from the drop down menu.  For more information, see the Image use policy, Uploading images, and Image copyright tags.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  21:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting. I haven't been here very long, in fact I registered here just a few days ago. However, I'm a pretty fast learner. Heck, I'll even wager I'll have made over a thousand contributions by the end of the month. -- AR <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  22:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * But if you look even remotely like her, then I think you are the most beautiful woman in the world. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  23:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt I look as gorgeous as that but thanks for the compliment just the same :).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 23:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. Well, anyways, I gotta edit. See ya! AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  07:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, who is karmafist? Some guy on the Wikipedia critics thing named karmafist was telling people how to chip away at the credibility of Wikipedia. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  21:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing that karmafist is mostly likely this user. Seems like they were banned. Can't say much on the matter because it was significantly before my time. Heh, I feel just as horrible when I don't know my Wiki history than I do with US/World history...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 03:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It says on the List of banned users that he was a former sysop. Man, and then he goes off and tells people how to weaken the credibility of Wikipedia...talk about betrayal, huh? Or maybe revenge. Yeah, it's probably revenge. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  05:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I might want to be sysopped someday, depending on what I'm doing. For instance, if I'm focusing primarily on editing, then I wouldn't find it incredibly useful. But if I am helping with deletions, anti vandalism (and I kind of am), and otherwise, then I'd consider it. It just depends on circumstances, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Right now, I'm quite a few miles away. What's backlog? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  05:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not responding, was spending time with the family during the weekend. Backlog is when an area of Wikipedia is starting to become neglected and requests or information in that area is starting to pile up.  Some backlogs can be cleared by any Wikipedia user or by administrators.  For example, when the category for speedy deletions starts to pile up, the backlog tag can  be/is added to the page to indicate that the page could use the attention of one or more administrator.  Same applies for several other categories/areas of Wikipedia.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  04:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I think I want to be an admin someday. Not that I wouldn't know what I'm getting mself into, it's just that it seems I'm already taking interest in assisting some stuff on Wikipedia other than editing the articles, such as deletion. I already nominated my first article for deletion. There are some users that would not understand what adminship is and nominate themselves without hesitation, like it's a position of high respect. It sounds more like a promotion from editor to system operator than an authoritative position to me, though that actually sounds kind of enjoyable, handling deletions and organizing backlog and stuff. Sort of like, well, the ACTUAL definition of administrator. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  04:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's pretty brave that you would like to handle the mop. Just keep a good record and help around.  Chances are people will notice and really appreciate it.  Glad to see you got a bit of good understanding of it already :)...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  04:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a lot of work and responsibility, and even when I get it, the only real difference is that whenever I would click on the admin-only links, they would actually be of use to me. I wouldn't suddenly feel like a Sergeant of great authority and respect, at least that's what I think it'll be like. But with that ideal in mind, there's no way to be dissapointed if that's what I expect, and it is. And in reality I had stuff like that happen to me, people giving me a certain power that not everyone can get. It didn't exactly make me feel like the world is better through my eyes than before, so I'd know how it feels.


 * But that's not to say there isn't enjoyment out of it. And that's why I think I want to be a sysop someday, though not right away. Maybe in November of December, when I have proven my understanding of policy to people and can gather consensus. And of course, that'd be cool. In the meantime, I'm gonna edit some articles and assist the community. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  04:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What does it mean to be banned anyways? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  05:37, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

(unindent)When a user is banned it means they are either blocked/prohibited from editing for a set period of time, indefinitely, or from editing certain articles or areas of Wikipedia. Bans can only be enforced through Arbcom, Jimbo Wales, or community consensus.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 05:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That'd suck. So, in essence, the Edit this Page part would actually be more like You Are Prohibited From Editing this Page to banned users.


 * Uh, how depressed were you off of Wikipedia? Were you scrounging for a PC? Knowing you, yes (not that I do, but along with User:ButSeriouslyFolks, you're the only sysop I consistantly have contact with). I try to use that VandalFighter thing and usually go after the IP edits (highlighted in purple of course), for some reason. How can you tell where vandalism takes place? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  05:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ummm, I'm never really depressed to be off Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a place I come to visit and a community I enjoy...not my life ;).  Its hard to predict where vandalism takes place or to rely on the tools you have to do so.  Based on your vandal fighting program there are certain ways you can open up the Recent Changes page or the Related Changes page.  You can also add many article to your watchlist (see WP:WATCHLIST for more details) to keep tabs on them.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  06:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And that's a healthy way to be. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  07:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there a Wikipedia's most wanted list? Who would you say is the most disruptive Wikipedian ever? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  00:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I'm not really aware of one but there are things like Long term abuse which functions to inform people about those who have been constant abusing of Wikipedia's editing policies. Its bad to label someone "most disruptive ever" and it is not encouraged per WP:DENY (an essay which many believe is something good to follow).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  00:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh OK, sorry. By thhe way, I recently filed my first AfD, and it isn't going so well (only one supports deletion). I felt that a certain article is not notable, as it's stub-class and has no references. However, you would get a few Google results from it, and it is a big thing in another country, but the name is self-explanatory. Would this be a good nomination? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  01:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Its hard to say just by looking at the article and unfortunately I don't have much time to research the article's subject at the moment but I wouldn't consider that a bad faith nomination. Just because an article you listed for deletion, which you believed should be deleted, does not turn out the way you thought it would doesn't mean that it is a bad nomination.  Your concerns were valid but the article still might demonstrate notability enough for inclusion.  Another good thing to do is check what articles link to the Danish Music Awards to see if other articles use it as a wiki-link.  No worries, the deletion process is very important to make sure the quality of content Wikipedia has is notable and substantial enough for a major encyclopedia.  All I would recommend is to be very careful when you nominate an article for AFD.  Make sure to look at the edit history or ask those who have edited the article previously why they believe its notable.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  01:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to rethink why I nominated it, but now that I look at the links and contributions, it doesn't sound very notable. It has zero references and, in contrast with what I saiid earlier, very few search engine results, though it is most definitely not WP:COI. At least that's just my personal opinion. And I can admit when I'm wrong, unlike some others. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  01:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you believe an admin did this? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  01:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah its pretty believable. People change, sometimes for good other times for worse.  Sometimes out of frustration Wikipedia editors turn to inappropriate means to prove their point.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  01:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, man, that's a sad story. But I fully endorse that ban, and I think that things like that should be dealt with as a regular user was doing them, adminship or not. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  02:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * PPG (if it's OK to call you that), I'm wondering. What does a ban really assert? You say that banned users aren't allowed to be editing Wikipedia, right? And if they make another account, that account would be blocked immediately after someone recognizes him, right? Well, what if it's indefinite? If, ten years down the road, that same user makes a new account to do something helpful, would Wikipedia still kick him outta here? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  02:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * (course its ok to call me that) Bans are enacted (either by block or by basically monitoring any edits that the user may make) for certain lengths. If indefinite then the user regardless of making any kind of edit (positive or negative), will still be blocked/prevented from editing due to the terms stated in the WP:BAN policy.  If the community, arbcom, or Jimbo Wales have a change of heart; only then can the user return and start to edit constructively again.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  02:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

...Even ten years later when that user has grown up and actually wants to help. Oh well, at least I'm not banned. Guess what? I'm gettin' into stuff besides editing articles already, and I was only here for 'bout a week. I like to greet newcomers at the door (from the Account Creation Log), assist in deletions, revert vandalism, and some other stuff. What's the non-free image rationale? I'm asking because I copy and pasted an image on my User Page, and it was removed. And another thing, how do you gain permission from external sources on using an image? AR <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  03:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It means that non-free images are often avoided to be uploaded and it is often good to find a free image to replace them when possible. The reason why a picture was removed from userpage was because it did not have a free license (GFDL license, public domain license, creative commons license, etc.) but had a copyright license (anything which has the copyright "C" insignia or is explicitly stated as non-free in its image tag/description).  To gain permission to use images from copyright owners see the Requesting copyright permission page for details on what to do.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  03:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'm starting to get the image use thing. So now I'm probably gonna go link some stuff from my userpage, like policies and stuff.


 * It's not really my business, but what's up with User:Defender 911 being banned? Looking at archives, he sounded like a good user. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  04:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * To be honest Argon, I'm not a walking dictionary of all the blocks/bans enacted in Wikipedia existance :P...after looking over it for several minutes it seems that Defender was pursuing to find out what happened to a user, when that user had exercised the right to vanish after threats were made on that user. Defender was doing it to the point of harassment and asking personal questions.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  04:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... interesting. That's the way the cookie crumbles, I suppose. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  04:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You're quite Egour, aren't you? Or ARE you? Marbe you're rouge. Why do you people spell it as "Rouge" instead of "Rogue"? I am going to join the cult of the wise and exalted Jimbo Wales! —Preceding unsigned comment added by AR Argon (talk • contribs) 19:27, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
 * Ummm I wouldn't call myself rogue (rouge is the color "red" in French btw, not too sure why they call it rouge to be honest), and we do not really think of anything on this website as a cult. More like a community...eh heh.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  19:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I knew that, PPG. That is a really cool User Name, and one, I'm sure, has struck fear into the hearts of many vandals. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  19:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I've decided to stay here at Wikipedia for the long haul, helpin' wherever I can. I'm still kind of a newbie, but I'm sure to learn as I go. How can you tell if an image is Non-free rationale? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  02:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The way you can tell is if an image for example is tagged with the templates Non-free television screenshot, Non-free character, or have the "C" copyright insignia someone in the tag are considered non-free. Images that are tagged with the templates GFDL, PD-author, or otherwise indicate they are free are considered images which do not fall under the non-free rationale.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  02:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. So that's what it is. But I've got a couple of questions. Is it possible for the original publisher of that picture to file a lawsuit for copyright against the user who uploads it without permission? And what about the images that say copyright on them? Are they not a violation of Wikipedia's non-free rationale rule? I think it's one of Wikipedia's most serious rules, even for a website that doesn't take its rules too seriously. Or am I taking it too seriously, I wonder. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  02:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Argon, I honestly do not have policy pages so versed in my memory that I could repeat them word for word to you and you will get a better answer by looking through them yourself. I believe that it is possible for the original publisher to have the means of filing a lawsuit.  Usually users who upload copyright material constantly are blocked indefinitely and their images are deleted, so there would be no need to go that far.  On a side note users who are participating a legal dispute (whether it is the plaintiff or the defendant in the dispute) are blocked during the period of their litigation or indefinitely (see WP:NLT).  Wikipedia actually takes its rules very seriously Argon.  But at the same time it balances them out with common sense when the time calls for it (see WP:IAR).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  02:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ignoring all rules is exactly what I meant by "not taking its policies too seriously." While Wikipedia's policies are definitely taken seriously, they are treated with common sense, as you have said. The reason I go to you instead of reading the policies is that I find them kinda hard to interpret, despite my rather advanced vocabulary level (for a fourteen year old, really). Sorry for annoying you so much, and thanks. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  02:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem, its just there's only so much I know about Wikipedia :P...anymore and my head would explode!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 02:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I am depressed. <:{ But, I seem to be... addicted to my PC now. What can I do? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  02:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ehhhh...frankly I'm not sure what would be best to do Argon? I wish I had a gift for therapy but obviously poetry was more my calling :P...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 05:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I love poetry. I love any type of poetry, whether it rhymes or not. I actually try to think up new innovations that will change the face of poetry forever. Rhymes and wordings seem to come naturally to me, for some reason. I actually can think of a possible rhyme for orange- doorhinge (though I don't see how the two can possibly relate, though I can probably find a way somehow, as I am rather talented with words.). I love writing- it places my mind on paper.

Hey, I wrote a humourous limerick about Wikipedia socks:


 * There was once an account known as Kecrock,


 * Which was a block-evading sock,


 * When the checkusers seen,


 * Jpgordon sought the screen,


 * To administer a block.

THIS IS INTENDED AS HUMOUR. THERE IS NOBODY WHO HAS AN ACCOUNT NAMED KECROCK. AR <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  06:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Gotcha ;). Though there's just a tiny flaw in the poem, those with the checkuser ability usually issue those blocks.  So User:Jpgordon would be more appropriate rather than silly me.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  06:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * There, corrected. heh heh heh, I love limericks. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  06:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do Checkusers check the IP's of two accounts comparatively, to see if they are the same person, or do they check for every IP that the accounts have logged into and every other account that has logged into the same IP address? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  07:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm really no expert on the checkuser process. I believe they check to see if the IPs of the user accounts listed in the checkuser report are using the same IPs of the sockmaster or confirmed socks.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  07:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well PPG, I seem to get the notion that you know everything. Does Wikipedia block people for adding edits that are unconstructive, but the user doesn't have the intention of disrupting Wikipedia and actually wants to assist? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  19:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I cannot speak for the entire Wikipedia but it is the general practice that blocks be instated for repeated unconstructive edits (whether the intention is good or bad). They are viewed as disruptive despite the editor being in good standing or wanting to help.  However, those who are more experienced editors may be given more chances (not many mind you but some more).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  19:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What would you think if you saw a headliner at the bottom of your talk page that said Desysopped and blocked, and when you get down there, it says "Gotcha!;)? Would you laugh or would you block? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  19:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll give my reaction in every scenario:
 * If this was a fellow admin or a friend being a silly goose, I'd laugh and just revert with a positive edit summary.
 * If this was a new user, I'd laugh, probably revert with my anti-vandal tool and leave a template on their talk page.
 * If this was serious and missing gotcha, I would accept the decision of the community and continue to contribute and fight vandalism.

Answer your question ;)?<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 19:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. But I don't think you'll ever really be desyopped, unless you request it, and I highly doubt you will gven your anti vandalism efforts. I wish I could go back in time to early February and start an account just for the sake of saying Strongest support humanely possible. Yeah, the thing'll be scratched and the account may be blocked for being a one purpose account, but I sure would mean it. You make Wikipedia a better place just by being here, PPG, and I think you deserve more than just having a WP:100 and near WP:200 unanimous support on your RfA or having a dozen RickK anti vandalism barnstars. No, I think you are someone who I fully trust and respect, and... there aren't words to describe this in a way that does you any justice, and I'm sure lots of others would agree. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  19:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the compliment wholeheartedly, thank you very much!
 * Looks like Orangemike literally did the positive edit summary part XD...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 19:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I really enjoy being here. I love Wikipedia, and people who say that users here are vicious and cold-blooded are just unforgiving. AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  20:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you like Haiku's? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  06:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, some can be very thought provoking. I suck at writing them though.  I like sticking with any old rhyming scheme as long as it sounds right.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  16:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I  love  poetry. I have written many things, including rhymes, free verses, haikus and tankas, limericks, etc. in my spare time. I'm doing really well here already, having nominated one article for deletion and participated in a few AfD's, such as Requests for adminship/Anonymous Dissident 2, being one of the first supporters (with Strongest support humanely possible). But, I need somebody elso to clarify. HE'S NOT AN ADMINISTRATOR?!?!?!</BIG> I thing the fact that he contributes all of those articles shows his commitment to the project, and he has demonstrated a clear understanding of policies and guidelines, as well as the ability to use the mop effectively. Well, enough about that. So, what's your favorite kind of poetry? AR  <font color="#1E90FF">Argon  21:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I really do not have a favorite. I'm really a plain jane when it comes to what I like...which is basically...whatever sounds good!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  22:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Please review Wikipedia Policy
From WP:NPA:

Removal of text There is no official policy regarding when or whether most personal attacks should be removed, although it has been a topic of substantial debate.[1] Removing unquestionable personal attacks from your own user talk page is rarely a matter of concern. On other talk pages, especially where such text is directed against you, removal should typically be limited.

Nevertheless, unusual circumstances do exist. The most serious types of personal attacks, such as efforts to reveal nonpublic personal information about Wikipedia editors, go beyond the level of mere invective, and so can and should be excised for the benefit of the community and the project. In certain cases involving sensitive information, a request for oversight may also be appropriate.

[edit] Off-wiki personal attacks Wikipedia cannot regulate behavior in media not under the control of the Wikimedia Foundation, but personal attacks made elsewhere create doubt as to whether an editor's on-wiki actions are conducted in good faith. Posting personal attacks or defamation off-Wikipedia is harmful to the community and to an editor's relationship with it, especially when such attacks take the form of violating an editor's privacy. Such attacks can be regarded as aggravating factors by administrators and are admissible evidence in the dispute-resolution process, including Arbitration cases.

[edit] External links Links or references to off-site harassment, attacks, or privacy violations against Wikipedians are not permitted, and should be removed. Such removals are not subject to the three-revert rule. Attacking, harassing, or violating the privacy of any Wikipedian through the posting of external links is not permitted, and those who do so deliberately or repeatedly may be blocked.[2][3] As with personal attacks, extreme cases of harassment by way of external links can be grounds for banning.

And I might add, it's also the decent thing to do. Not a small consideration when we have WP:CIVIL. Please consult your conscience. Noroton 23:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I am fully aware of policy Noroton but we need to use common sense in this situation. By removing the link we will encourage further conflict and possibly even more slander of this user and Wikipedia.  This is a very unconstructive approach you are taking right now.  Lets not continue to feed the flames.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  23:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess I just disagree with that on both grounds of strategy and principle. I do appreciate your advice though. Thanks. By the way, one point occurs to me: I think considerations of principle and decency -- that we just don't tolerate attacks -- trumps other considerations (that's the nub of the principle), and I doubt it will actually increase the abuse (strategy). And taking a stand for decency is simply important in itself and tends to be the best strategy in the end anyway. I can't discuss more now, gotta pick up a pizza and make a certain edit or two. Noroton 23:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm replying on my talk page. Can we continue the discussion there? Noroton 00:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
PPG, I just wanted to say thank you for my successful RfA, which passed 89/2/5. I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of support that I received and I am more than a little bit humbled at the kind words yourself and many others had to say about me. I wanted to personally say how much it is appreciated. It's only been a short time that I've gotten to work with you since you have come back from your break, but it has been enjoyable and I'm looking forward to working with you more in the future. Trusilver 16:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
...for your help with that! Really, it's just a huge relief for me to know there are others aware of this particular problem. I've gone through most of AN but haven't done ANI yet. I used the Google trick you listed, but didn't finish looking through all the hits or name permutations yet. He's persistent. Many of the edits to the archives are through open proxies. Anyway I'm grateful for the assistance. Cheers! :) Antandrus  (talk) 03:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

A username
I noticed you soft-blocked this user. I was actually going to hard-block it, as there was no way that was a good-faith username. At any rate, I'm not going to change your block, and I'm not criticizing you; I'm just surprised you performed a soft-block there. Acalamari 18:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I strongly avoid hard blocks of usernames because I do not want to unnecessarily block those who possibly share that users' IP range. I usually go for hard blocks when the user repeatedly continues to create bad-faith usernames or it is beyond vulgar.  Edit: Guess he just pushed that second chance.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  18:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's fine then; it just seemed like a really nasty name to me. Acalamari 18:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Additional: yes, I did hardblock that one; I'm sure it's the same person, as it's unlikely that two usernames in the same "genre" such as that one would be created at similar times. Acalamari 18:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you have this one yet

 * Thanks! Left a message on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  00:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

OMG deletion disaster
Argh, sorry. Nice work. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually we have to praise Ryulong...seems Ryulong figured out what was preventing the complete restoration.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 01:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, all fixed. Wonder why the database was locked so long. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Any time you delete/undelete an article with a lot of revisions (3655 for that pestiferous talk page) it can cause a hiccup, at least so I'm told. That was a hard one, since the histories were not up-to-date while we were all trying to fix it.  Antandrus  (talk) 01:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess it could have gone worse. Pestiferous? Oh, that's perfect. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Help
Where do I report this. Basically, sometimes when I edit pages I end up blanking content (without intention to.) On the example given there I moved a comment and then, next thing I know, I blanked the bottom. It has happened several times and only from certain computers. Thanks, Brusegadi 02:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll follow your suggestions and get back to you. Brusegadi 04:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Link
Sorry about the late reply - darn db-locks! People these days are very antsy about attack sites. I am personally somewhat ambivalent about them, but many users are very willing to paint anything remotely critical of Wikipedia as an attack site, and the people who allow these links as the black sheep of the encyclopedia (check out the almighty mess that was Gracenotes's RfA, for example...) I just like to minimise drama rather than add to it :) Feel free to revert though, hon, it's your talkpage. Take care! ~ Riana ⁂ 02:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah I see, thanks the same for the concern. I'll trust your judgment ;)...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  02:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced experiments
RE Generic Actor, Generic Actress, and Robbie Shapiro, I would like to suggest you consider simply userfying those types of misplaced experiments, instead of deleting all that work. I actually had them all cued up to move to User:Tutton/Generic Actor, etc., but by the time I finished creating complete documentation for my rationale (EG "appears to be part of experiment or template dev, along with Generic Actress and Robbie Shapiro--i.e. User sandbox more appropriate") for all three, and hit the 'Move page' buttons, you had already pulled the delete trigger. Thanks for your consideration. Hellosandimas 03:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I left a little note on his talk page about creating a user sandbox. I just deleted as opposed to moving it because at first it was hard to tell whether it was a vandal creating nonsense articles or a user experimenting.  I'm sure he'll be able to recreate the material on his own.  Thanks for trying to help out though.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  03:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thank you for your help regarding User:KingShwartz. It was very much appreciated. :D AngelOfSadness  talk  20:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Thank you for taking care of him... what a pain! --Clubjuggle 20:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem guys!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocks
Block conflicts are annoying. :) We both had tab open on that one, only you were too quick for me! :) Acalamari 20:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He, he, he...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

K risti n G eber t
courtesy blanking

userpage
hey just noticed the crap cheap fridge pulled again. thanks for reverting it. (: Bouncehoper 22:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

--- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.160.255.125 (talk) 14:00, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Ordu
Did you read the Ordu talk page before making edits. The sources are invalid (a blog, one mentions oordu in passing, one is a copy of another, an interview, and non are third party or verifiable per WIkipedia rules) Next time, please read talk pages before making edits. --72.81.184.145 20:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I did read the talk page and there is no consensus so far to the version that it is being reverted to. However I like avoiding edit wars so I will refrain from anymore reversions.  The user that I reverted is being discussed on ANI at this post if you need more reference as to why I reverted the edit.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  00:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ads
I quite like those little ads and believe its a helpful little project that you have really helped maintain. I wanted to ask you if you, Gurch, and Andrew wouldn't mind me joining your design team? I love practically editing Photoshop anything and I believe it would help you take care some of the excessive requests you receive :). If so, I'll add my name to users who can be contacted for ad requests.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  01:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, just cite the images that you use for the projects, and make sure they are not fair use images. Cheers.  <font color="#084C9E">Mi <font color="#4682b4">r <font color="#6495ED">a <font color="#4682b4">n <font color="#084C9E">da  01:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome. I'll make a small edit to the Wikipedia Ads page including my name.  Hope I can help you get a break from all that constant design work!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  01:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Try working on this project. :-P  <font color="#084C9E">Mi <font color="#4682b4">r <font color="#6495ED">a <font color="#4682b4">n <font color="#084C9E">da  02:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I'll take it on...I'll see what I can do :).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 02:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

My stalker
Thanks for reverting my stalker on ANI. This IP is not acting in good faith in anyway. This user has been useing multiple IPs to harass me for several weeks now, usually posting claims of my being a vandal on talk pages of editors who I regularly edit with. This got to the point last week where I cracked-up, and actually did write that rant to another user. My apology and his (PDBailey, I thinks) acceptance are on PDBailey's talk page. Thanks again, and sorry for the trouble. - BillCJ 02:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

MascotGuy's IP
I got an idea! You should try blocking MascotGuy's IP address for about 6 months so we can forget all about him. And, (just to make sure) let him read this page and this page while he's blocked.  PNiddy  Go!  14:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I don't have checkuser abilities. Besides there is already a case being filed there on the newest socks that have popped up.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  17:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for blocking User:12345678910a111213141516171819. AngelOfSadness talk  18:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the barnstar. :D AngelOfSadness  talk  18:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Quick, uncontroversial, but rather weird deletion request
Hi. I'm addressing you simply because you're an admin and around at the present moment.

I'm currently dealing with an article article and a duplicate-article-turned-redirect, and I wish to change the former's name (Emil of Maple Hills) to the latter's (Emil i Lönneberga) without losing the latter's page history. To that end, I have moved the duplicate-turned-redirect temporarily elsewhere and would like you to delete the current Emil i Lönneberga page, which has only ever been a double redirect, so that I can complete the move. --Kizor 20:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Just in case you can't figure out what the #¤%&@@ I'm trying to do: I wish to have the article over at "Emil i Lönneberga" and the duplicate-turned-redirect over at "Emil of Maple Hills" while retaining its page history. I have moved the duplicate-turned-redirect to "Even samurai have teddy bears and even the teddy bears get drunk" very temporarily indeed, spawning a new redirect over at "Emil i Lönneberga" that needs to be nuked so that I can move the article there.

This will all make sense in the end. Trust me. --Kizor 20:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Um honestly I do not follow, try another administrator because that's considered plain vandalism. I'm honestly confused.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  20:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 's ok, I'll draw you a diagram once I'm done. ;P --Kizor 20:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * My apologies, it was just weird :P...I'm lost.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes what is needed is clarification on IRC. :) kmccoy (talk) 21:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Disagreement on term Fugitive
Wikipedia states in its article on Fugitive that "A fugitive is a person who is fleeing from custody, whether it be from private slavery, a government arrest, government or non-government questioning, vigilante violence, or outraged private individuals." Granted this is not the only definition. We could also use the definition given by dictionary.com. My point is to the best of my understanding if you fail to show at a sentence hearing and have an outstanding arrest warrant, then you would be a fugitive. If the authorities apprehend Mr. Hsu they would be required to extradite him to California. He is a fugitive by the definition of the word, regardless of whether or not he was not hiding very effectively. Ainttalkin 22:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

~*Gasp!*~
Oh dear! What if this means no more internet? <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 00:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OMG PERISH THE THOUGHT!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 00:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And it would be your fault! [[Image:Face-devil-grin.svg|25px]] ~*Ariel runs off laughing hysterically*~ <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 00:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 00:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hee hee hee. Too funny, that's one of the names that deserves to go in the "Funny names" list, lol (if there were such a list). Just thought that might make you laugh. [[Image:Face-wink.svg|20px]] <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 00:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi
First, great job with the ads. The last ad that I uploaded is not working properly. It's #85. Second, can you please fully protect this page, because I don't want people making any more requests on it. Third, here's a barnstar for your fab. work.  <font color="#084C9E">Mi <font color="#4682b4">r <font color="#6495ED">a <font color="#4682b4">n <font color="#084C9E">da  01:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

NICE! wp:totalitarianism thanks you!! Paco8191 03:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcoming
Sorry about blanking the warnings, it was, of course, unintentional. Dr ea my <sup style="color:indigo;">\*/ <sub style="color:lime;">!$!  17:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 17:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

regarding 70.166.103.67
Whom you just blocked. 24 hrs (the ususal for an ip) seems short as all the edits from that ip (over several months) seem to be vandalism. Just an observation, not a request to change. --Rocksanddirt 18:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Good observation. Blocks are meant to be preventive not punitive.  In the case that legitimate users decide they want to edit after 24 hours, its best to leave that block for that duration.  If the IP continues to vandalize, the block can be easily extended.  Still, thanks for bringing that to my attention.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  18:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Status
I have one question: How do you get your status right? Is there a tool? Coaster geekperson <font color="#696969">04  04:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.127.93 (talk • contribs)
 * First of all I really doubt you are Ceres3 seeing as you have vandalized his page as well as Jimbo Wale's userpage. I'd avoid impersonating people when asking such a simple question.  I use a monobook code for my status changer.  You need to have a user account to be able to use them however.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  07:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia
Hi, there was a vandal spree on simple English Wikipedia by someone impersonating you (simple:User:Persian Poet Girl). It might be a good idea to get the account renamed and for you to gain control over it. Cheers.  Majorly  (talk) 01:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm nevermind, I see you're "gal" - they got it wrong. Ah well :P  Majorly  (talk) 01:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

logo gone
hi, the logo seems to have disapeared from our ad for some reason. If you could fix this ti would be great. Thanks, -Wikiproject Totalitarianism

Paco8191 03:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Wynton Rufer edits
Ok, the new edit does not include that sort of thing that you warned me about though =] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josao (talk • contribs) 05:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Seven Wonders
Hello. Just wanted to let you know that as per a consensus decision, the medieval and modern wonders lists were forked from the original, ancient wonders, and both articles were moved to new, more appropriate names (specifically Seven Wonders of the Ancient World and Wonders of the World. As such, your excellent contributions on the 2006 Good Morning America/USA Today "New Seven Wonders" list are now located at Wonders of the World (just in case you want to update the links on your user page).  Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 16:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Huh?
Case of impersonation? <font color="#777">~  <font color="#888">Wi <font color="#bbb">ki <font color="#aaa">her <font color="#ccc">mit  19:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow... I'd be willing to bet that's not our Persian Poet Gal, even though the user's page links to this one. That's mildly disturbing, is there anything that can be done in that case? <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 19:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Seems like just a troll having their fun. No biggie, I added this userbox to clarify what accounts I have outside the English Wikipedia if such occasions keep arising.  Thanks for all the alerts everyone.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  21:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi. As you've already been told, you were impersonated by a vandal on es.wikipedia. He's now blocked.
 * Leave me a message if you want me to rename the vandal account so you can register a valid one, or if you need anything else.
 * Bye. FrancoGG ( talk ) 21:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI...
You tagged it, but didn't protect it, so I did it for you after running into another sock. -- Gogo Dodo 07:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Hee hee hee
03:31, September 3, 2007 With love from Poet Gal's number one fan club (Talk | contribs) New user account.

You're so popular! <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 07:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Sometimes I can't help but laugh at this stuff. What's happening to me?  Am I actually gaining a sense of...humor?  But I'm suppose to be rigid and all-by-the-book...teehee.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  07:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww, says whom? lol. Your name alone makes me smile! [[Image:Face-smile-big.svg|25px]]. I have yet to get a single impersonator. I guess I'm doing something wrong, eh? lol. <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 07:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * (And, I laughed at this one too: I love the smell of indefbans in the morning (blocked indef by Persian_Poet_Gal (ACB)). [[Image:Face-wink.svg|25px]] <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 07:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * simple:User:Persian_Poet_Girl. Sigh. Another one. Will it ever stop? (and yes, I know who it is).  <font color="#084C9E">Mi <font color="#4682b4">r <font color="#6495ED">a <font color="#4682b4">n <font color="#084C9E">da  10:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Can you delete Image:Qxz-ad87.gif? I have made a better image on. Per the request of the original person. Also, can you please sign my name afterwards, when you do it, because I am too busy to do so. Thanks.  <font color="#084C9E">Mi <font color="#4682b4">r <font color="#6495ED">a <font color="#4682b4">n <font color="#084C9E">da  09:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * All taken care of!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 09:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

THANX
Please Please, yes, its 1 person a sock puppet of MJis4Freaks. ThanxRealist2 16:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou, v much. Realist2 16:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes please protect it from this nazi, black hating, gay hating person.Realist2 16:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

cheers ill let you no when things cool down, Nazis are devils, just sick. Realist2 16:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

wtf
why did you delete my help desk comment? dont you believe in free speech? --I Feel Odd 17:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * See my post on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 17:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * answer my question specifically. --I Feel Odd 17:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If I want wikipedia to go to hell I can ok? Its called Free Speech. Wikipedia is not above the law.

Please refer to :    --I Feel Odd 17:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You have got to be kidding me. Its an organisation, not a person. telling an organisation to go to hell is definalty not a personal attack. You have to agree with me on this. --I Feel Odd 17:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * . Is Wikipedia above the law? Because I think not. I am insulted sick to my stomach that Wikipedia believes it is above the UN Human Rights law of Free Speech. --I Feel Odd 18:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * And about Wikipedia not being an anarchy, democracy etc etc, that makes Wikipedia no better than Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong-Il. You work for an unfair remige that is againest the UN Convention of Human Rights. --I Feel Odd 18:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

(from TMulderrig)
bloody jobsworth.


 * ?<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 00:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Why you wanna burn me like this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TMulderrig (talk • contribs) 00:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Michael Jackson protection
Hi thanx again for your help resently, I would like to ask your advise on what to do with the michael Jackson page, As Im sure you would ashume the Michael Jackson page currently has semi protection, however this last week has seen quite a lot of vandalism from the anti michael jackson wing, thats not the sole problem, people are making edits that have been already heavily debated on the talk page by more neutral minded folk, some edits I have reverted explaining that a consensus has already been reached on the issue with the same results each time, never the less they revert my revert so to speck, with so much going on at the minute I believe the page needs further protection, currently the article is GA which we are all proud of and am seriously concerned that it will loss this statues if things continue, I think as it is concidered a fair, accurate article at the moment it should be kept as it is in these resent heated moments, furthermore in the upcoming months Michael Jackson new album is expected out (his first since 2001) obviously there will be a lot of media attention around this which will only stire up the haters further, I think at this time actions needs to be taken to protect the article and its GA statues, I no you will provide good advise on this, Please get back to me, Realist2 17:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Responded on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 18:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanx for the advise unfortunately the main members of the michael jackson wiki project have taken a wel deserved wiki holiday and im the only one on watch at the moment, the edit war has come to stupid things like michael jackson being called the king of pop!!! Whenever you here those words even if you dis agree (which is only democratic) every1 still no`s who its in referance to, there are 13 archives on the talk page where issues like this has been discussed over and over with the same conclusions, thanx for taking this issue seriously Michael jacksons page is currenly in the top 200 articles visited apparently so its imperative that it remains ship shape, thanx again for this, Ill monitor how it goes and let you no if it get critical. Yours on common ground Realist2 18:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, god you must hate me lol, I have my suspitions this is the original established user of MJis4Freaks[]. What do you think? Realist2 19:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Dronzo started on 27 August and Freak started on 1 September. Very close, they bot only talk about there biased opioion of MJ, although I will confess Dronzo isn`t as radical, there are alarming similarities between them though. Realist2 19:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Although I'd rather not start an argument, I feel I should say something. This guy is simply reverting everything he sees to maintain the status quo, despite the fact that these are good faith edits to improve it. Just look at this one, I've tried to add a sourced statement down the bottom and it was simply reverted with no reason given. I think you should realize Realist that the article or consensus is not set in stone, and neither you nor a select bunch of 'elites' own it. So please stop reverting everyones edits including my own simply because they don't fit in with your personal judgment.--Dronzo 23:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe there has been an error of judgment on both sides. First of all, Realist, there is really not enough concrete evidence to indicate that Dronzo is a sock of a vandalizer.  Second of all, Dronzo, that material seems to have been agreed upon the version he was reverting to.  Though it is never approved to own an article, his conduct has not at all been "own"ing and he was making the reverts in good faith.  I think the best conclusion to assume right now is that you both AGF towards each others' actions.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  00:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes agreed with both your comments, in hindsight I did over react to dronzo mainly to ptotect the page, at the moment dronzo has not attacked my pages something all the sock puppets did, there has indeed been an error of judgement. Realist2 10:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh and I deleted your 1 sourced claim because you are repeating what is already said like 2/3 paragraphs up!!! So trust me Im not in the wrong, I deleted anything unsourced and anything that is already said, therefore in your case it ment everything. Scolded for being a good wiki. What has wiki world come to. Realist2 11:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Your question on Commons
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APolarlys&diff=7409427&oldid=7409297 --Polarlys 22:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Joni Armandary
The user immediately recreated the article you speedied. --Rrburke(talk) 01:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Page deleted and vandal warned.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 01:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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User:Dikd / Salamis topics
Thanks. I can't imagine what it is with this user. It's a pity, because he could be a very useful contributor; he clearly knows the area well, reads Greek, and has detailed knowledge that shows access to sources. But he won't collaborate, or even communicate, with other editors. 18:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that drives non-admin RC patrollers batshit
I reported User:206.12.150.8 to AIV for vandalizing directly out of a 3-month school-block (their 12th). You went out of your way to point out that I was wrong and that was apparently not sufficient justification for submitting the user for a block. Fine. Aye aye effendi, back to work.

12 minutes later, another admin (User:Mangojuice) comes along and decides that instead of not being deserving of ANY block, the account is actually deserving of a YEAR LONG block!!!

I don't really care what standards Wikipedia sets down for AIV reports, because I'll simply adjust my procedure to match them, but this is precisely the sort of thing that destroys my faith in the process. The "accepable standards" on AIV fluctuate WILDLY from literally minute-to-minute, admin-to-admin. I've known admins who refused to block anyone, saying anything could be resolved with words. I've known others who threw down indef-blocks on second offenses. So which one am I going to get any given moment? The Lady, or the Tiger??

It makes me not want to do vandal patrol anymore, because there's no continuity between admins and it's insulting to be publically questioned like a newbie and then 12 minutes later have the exact opposite reaction occur. It's f***ing madness. <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 19:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Woah calm down Bullzeye! Your AIV reports are appreciated.  I believe that block was rather excessive and a 3-6 month would have been more appropriate.  But in reality no block was really needed yet.  Blocks are preventive not punitive.  The vandalizer wasn't running a muck as of yet.  I kept them on the list to monitor their edits due to their non-too-pretty block log.  Please understand I use to be in your shoes.  There were several occasions that my reports would be removed due to lack of activity or the whole blocks are not "punitive" thing.  And really it is important to remember that we shouldn't think of punishment-minded block system.  I really value the work of vandal fighters.  I apologize if my comments were too direct but I wanted to outline how this may not be cause for a block yet.  I'll allow Mangojuice's block to stand but personally I didn't think it was called for yet.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  19:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I apologize, I'm not trying to attack you personally. And please don't misunderstand my motives: as I said in my first post, this is not punitive in the slightest. None of my AIV reports are. I do not CARE what the actual standards for reporting a user are. I will follow them regardless; I am a servant here, a humble RC patroller, not a policymaker. That's what WP:CONS is for. That said, I'm particularly sick of the the utter and complete lack of consistency from our admins in the AIV process. Nobody goes by the book when it comes to blocking/not-blocking for vandalism. Whether the result is no block at all (and a scolding for the submitting patroller) or an indef block (and a thank you for the submitting patroller) depends on whim, fate, and how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Where IS the book, anyway? Don't we have a guideline somewhere about "what's worthy of a block, and how long he/she should get?" I'm tired of expending my labor on something which is essentially an unregulated, arbitrary crap-shoot. I could be vilified or lionized depending on which admin happens to get there first.

Thank you for responding, btw. <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 19:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, I apologize for being somewhat responsible for making you feel that way or contribute to the inconsistencies of admin blocking methods. I would like to continue to commend you and tell you your work is greatly appreciated.  I've had moments were I feel my admin duties have not been appreciated but really countless people appreciate every role Wikipedia editors play.  Lets just continue as best we can despite our kinks here and there.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  19:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's not your fault in particular. It's more of a systemic thing. You're a smart person, PoetGal. You probably know that in order for a system of rules to work properly there must be three elements: 1)Swift and sure enforcement, 2)Universal non-arbitrary application, and 3)Consent of the populace. Currently, we're missing 2 completely, due to the awful inconsistency in the process, and thus 1 is starting to fall apart too. Thoughts? <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 19:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have to regretfully agree with you that we're starting to delve into a limbo state with enforcement of our policies. Right now I can't quite say whether our blocking policy is flawed in enforcement but we're developing some issues that should be discussed and firmly decided upon as to know what should be a universally followed method for close to every scenario.  But it really comes down to the fact that we all have vastly different opinions.  Even if a time comes that we come up wiht a universal consensus as far as what to do in nearly every blocking scenario...we'll still have different interpretations of it.  At the end of the day, as long as editors do not enforce these policies in a way that is vastly out of line, we'll be able to live through it nevertheless...<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  19:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * A very thoughtful answer. Thank you very much for responding to my issues, and I apologize for my earlier stridency. I think everyone who dedicates themselves to the Project wants what's best for it. There's just a considerable degree of difference of opinion some times (seems like now more so than ever)...but that's precisely what talk/discussion pages are for. If we keep on plugging away I'm sure we'll make a dent in the inconsistencies eventually. Anyhow, back to the rollback bar. Take care and thanks again. <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 19:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Nice picture
Hi,

I just dropped by to say that I really love the painting on your user page. Regards. Wiki Raja 02:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello
I reverted you vandalism on Playstation eye —Preceding unsigned comment added by Someone not like you (talk • contribs)


 * I'm sure you did...try some actual contributions, the site is quite easy to use and can be fun when you actually use it.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 02:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Thanks
Thanks for deleting that article "Bob Loves Ciara" --Amaraiel 02:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No prob!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 02:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Status Script up top
Where did you get it *drools* --Amaraiel 02:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Its a hodgepodge of my own coding and the last edit function of StatusBot (whose sadly down at the moment :...but if you'd like something similar you can input the following scripts to get something similar on your userpage:

The following is the script I use to make it display on my userpages...

<font face="comic sans ms"> Status:


 * Div tags: Those place your status at the top right hand corner of any page you place it on.
 * "Status:" & : The place where you insert a status page you create for yourself. On my page I place the status bot code to update when I'm online.  To find out more see User:StatusBot (note: the bot is down at the moment so it may not be able to update your status for awhile).
 * The images, fonts, and the rest: Can be removed or customized as you like.

Sorry if this explanation doesn't make any sense but that's basically how I implement mine.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 03:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand it. I'm a fellow web designer (but like JS much more :)) Thanks! --Amaraiel 03:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Simple English wiki
Just noticed - obviously it's not you, but did you know you're being impersonated? Contribs (woo, I was first!). Dihydrogen Monoxide 02:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep I already knew...was alerted to it some time ago. Sorry to spoil the whole "I was the first" thing :P.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  02:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The I was first referred to the vandal's first edit...er...yeah, I'll go with that guise >_> Shows why you should never go away for mroe then a day Dihydrogen Monoxide 05:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Yay!

 * Why thank you very much ^_^.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 03:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have time for a quick question?
I'm wondering what the policy is on external links that link to youtube, or other video sites, that could contain possible copyrighted videos, such as the external links on Mike Parsons, and the same person who added those, seems to be adding video links to other pages, such as Roger Federer (the links he's added to that article have been removed previously). I'd like to have a solid policy or guideline to explain their removal, if possible, for future reference. Thanks in advance! <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 04:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That helps a bit, thanks, I've reviewed WP:EL many times, but since it says "no ban" on adding them, and I was told specifically youtube video links are allowed, so I'm just confused about the issue. I guess the item listed under "avoided": "Direct links to documents that require external applications (such as Flash or Java) to view the relevant content" could be used for the rationale of removing them, as most of those require at least some kind of plug in, yes? But, the item that says blogs should not be listed, is certainly not followed at all, as many pages have MySpace links on them. Heh, so confusing! <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 04:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you again so much for the quick replies, I really appreciate it! I noticed this concern today on the Help Desk, and it just brought this issue to the forefront of my mind today, with regards to external links, especially those that are videos, and after digging around, wanted to get an "official" idea of it, so thanks so much for helping do just that. <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 05:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

He's at it again
here Gwen Gale 07:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Blocking of Heinrich L.
Hallo,

thank you for your quick response. I still do not know what this Zombie thing (or whatever it was) means, but never mind. As I said, I don't understand one bit of this stuff in my native language (German) either. But anyway, you have been so kind as to lift the block on my registered user account, thus enabling me to edit again. As long as this works (it didn't yesterday evening) I am happy. Greetings from Hamburg Heinrich L. 09:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Persian Poet Gal
Even tho this is the first time we talk to each other, I feel like I've known you for ages now. So many times I have seen your name, your beautiful words, and your kindness spread over all our fellow editors and friends; so many times you gifted me the warmth of your loving words to others in need, that it was just a matter of time until our paths crossed. Now that they have, thanks to your initiative, I hope they mark but the beginning of a friendship; or it'd be more accurate to say, to actually begin to talk to each other as such, because I truly feel like we've already been friends for a long time now - we just needed to say it openly.

Just between you and me, when I decided to resume my little campaign today, I considered many names, and yours was one of them. Yet, I decided to wait a little more before gifting you your own day, because I truly feel that such a bright and shiny soul as you deserves something very, very special. And, to be honest, no poem I can think of can match the beauty of your spirit.

This is one of those rare moments that Wikipedia gifts us from a long time to time: when we're blessed to meet somebody we wholeheartedly look up to, with the hope of calling her a friend for the rest of our wikilives. I'll cherish it dearly, as I offer myself to you as your friend, in a day that you've brightened beyond words. Thank you so much, dear PPG! :) Love,  P h a e d r i e l  - 08:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Your words are very heartfelt Phaedriel and I truly appreciate them :).<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 17:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Concern
Hi! About this user, there seem to be a lot of unsourced/incorrect info added to several articles and reverting all of that takes a full time editor! The user seem to be a junior with multiple accounts (see 1, 2, and 3), so what should be the limit of patience? You may want to do a check user on these accounts as well: 4, 5, 6. Thanks! 124.170.209.110 16:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I looked over the diff links of all the accounts you provided and found some hard connections between User:Goom and User:Ahvazi (I blocked Goom for 24 hours for inserting misinformation and indefblocked Ahvazi for being a sockpuppet being used to re-insert the information). I do not really find a connection of User:Qasvin to anyone.  The other three accounts that you provided diff links to could also be possibly related but the three of them have not edited for months, so its rather a stale case.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  16:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Anytime after 12 o clock :D

 * sigh* I do rather enjoy coming home to watch the activity. Schools are in, and vandalism just goes off the charts! Click, click, click,click,click,click. *laughs* --Amaraiel 18:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Its almost like a mini-phenomenon that the vandalism increases once school starts. Maybe its to let off some steam...I've had moments where I wasn't too happy to "go back" so to speak :P.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  18:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Jesse
My my, you're a fast one. Well done. :-) – Quadell (talk) (random) 18:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Unfortunately I'll never be quicker than Wild Bill Hickok, fastest trigger in the West!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  18:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

 * People have been certainly nice and cheery this week, thanks!<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 18:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tips, I submitted an editor review a few weeks ago and still no comments:( Thedjatclubrock :) (T/C) 18:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Like thedjatclubrock I hope to be an admin someday. Unfortunately I lack the talent to create articles, though i'm working on a few projects as we speak. My forte would have to be the RCP, but alas, I doubt that reverting vandalism and warning people qualifies for adminship. But, i'm reading stuff everyday. --Amaraiel 18:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * RCP is always valued regardless. I am not a huge article writer on Wikipedia either but I'm very fond of contributing images or recording spoken versions of articles and of course vandalism patrol.  I've often seen Wiki-gnomers (spell checkers, grammar fixers, fact/citation finders, etc.) be nominated as well.  So do not think that your style of editing will hinder your chances.  Involve yourself in the project the way you feel comfortable and try new things when feel like it.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  18:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the revert; evidently that person was annoyed because I had deleted their spam the other day. :) Acalamari 20:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship
I have put forth an RfA. If you could, it would be an honor to receive words of support or disagreement on its behalf. My thanks! --Amaraiel 21:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I left a note on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 21:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your advice. You made a good point. I will withdraw. --Amaraiel 21:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

this AN/I thread.
I would respectfully suggest you look through this before deciding this is resolved. Sjones23 left 8, not 1 but 8, different comments in rapid succession there, instead of walking away. It's obvious that Kalive will see all of those, and most likely, and justly, consider it harassment. I think Sjones23 may need further warnigns about how to NOT throw a cocktail of kerosene, gasoline, methane and alcohol on the fire. ThuranX 23:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * See my response on your talk page.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 23:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

responsible use of wikitags
Thanks for your comment on WP:AN/I. Actually I wasn't asking about the npov on the template.

Yesterday I asked User:Butseriouslyfolks if they could either respond to a long comment I left in April.to an npov they left on Sada Jan in February.

They did respond, but on my talk page, not Talk:Sada Jan

Sixteen hours later they nominated a template I started for deletion.

And ten hours following that they placed the tag on Template:Combatant Status Review Tribunal trailer image and caption.

The npov that triggered my question was the one on npov on Sada Jan. I really regret extending him or her the courtesy of contacting them over their February npov tag now.

Cheers! Geo Swan 01:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Small favor
Hello PPG. Since you're good with images, would you mind editing this one and make its background transparent? I used to know how to do it, but not anylonger apparently. :-/ Thanks in advance. Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  02:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure I can take a crack at it. I'll try to do a clean job.  Would you like me to convert it to SVG as well or do feel its better to keep it in PNG format (I've been able to successfully export SVGs from Adobe Illustrator recently)?<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  02:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it would be better to keep it as a PNG, as the images of the coats of arms of the remaining Portuguese municipalities are in that format (such as this one). Thank you so much. :-) Hús  ö  nd  02:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I've just tried the image and the transparency works just fine for me. :-) Hús  ö  nd  02:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Userpage protection
Thanks for the offer. I think I'm okay with vandals. For me, it's fun and I like my vandal counter. :-) Thanks again. Cheers. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 08:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

My facts were documented and...
if there were any that were not I can supply them. The site is full of opinion, and for some reason you have elected to delete my while keeping many others that are skewed in an entirely different direction. I would like to continue in the direction I was headed with the page, and I am happy to provide documentation (newspaper reports, etc.) to back up my claims.

Sorry 'bout the image that was removed. However, I see no reason why it cannot stay if it is not listed as "Wilkes-Barre City Seal".

Thank you146.186.103.15 17:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

thanx
hi yes I did notice, ive been away for a few days, just signed on half hour ago, was going to get back to you asap its just so much has happened on the michael jackson age I got preoccupied,things are ok here its cooled down a little, lots of edits on michael jackson, tring to exstablish if any of it is edit war. Realist2 20:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Ryanfielder
Thanks for being diligent. I didn't check the actual timing of the warning and last action - just saw that he'd reverted. Sorry, I'll be less slap-dash next time. -- SiobhanHansa 20:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem.<b style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</b> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot Problem
I asked him to take care of it via IRC. :] -- (Review Me) R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 21:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the review. Have a good night. Thedjatclubrock :) (T/C) 01:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC).

Re: Mind if
Hey, I replaced Sigo187 since I forgot the password long ago with the newly created User:ThisIsaTest account, which I used to make an edit and then scrambled the password. So feel free to create a userpage for that account. Thanks! Keegan talk 01:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for unblocking me. I was blocked for "encouraging vandalism as per Jon Stewart", which is got me banned for three-days, then twelve hours, then one day... All I did was 'laugh' at something showing up on a wiki page moments after it was mentioned on television. I hope mentioning this doesn't get me blocked again. Thanks for the unblock though.

All the best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johncage1000 (talk • contribs) 01:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

That guy you blocked
Apparently he's still at it (see here). I indef'd the new account, and posted it to AN/I over here. All the best,  ^ demon <sup style="color:#c22">[omg plz]  <em style="font-size:10px;">11:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
<div style="padding: 5px; background: #B0C4DE; border-style: solid; border-width: 10px; border-color: #00008B; font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; "> <div style="margin-top: 3px; padding-top: 9px; padding-bottom: 9px; padding-left: 9px; padding-right: 9px; width: 250px; float: center;"> Click there to open your card! → → → Dearest Persian Poet Gal, Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 96 supports, 1 oppose, and 3 neutrals. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. I'm a new admin remember, so if you have any suggestions feel free to inform me of them. I would like to give a special shout out to Hirohisat,  Wizardman , and  Husond , for there original co-nominations. Thank you once again and good day. Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor

Credits
This RFA thanks was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunatly this is not entirely my own design.

Hi :)
Hello :), I am also working on another Mediawiki webpage and I need som help adding the Infobox:ethnic group, It's seems like a hard case, well well If you could help me then a big Thank you to you cheers!. Nick10000 09:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi:) I'm trying to improve this Nick10000 18:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, I appreciate your kindness Nick10000 08:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi
--Skatewalk 19:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks PPG so much for the barnstar, it made me smile :-) Thanks for your hard work with it as well, I love the logo! Cheers,  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  10:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

New
Here. :) Acalamari 19:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

New image


Thank you so much for uploading this image --NAHID 21:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)