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Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

 Edit Cards 



This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:


 * 1) Section editing
 * 2) * The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
 * 3) * The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
 * 4) Loading overlay
 * 5) * The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects
This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.


 * Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now.  Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
 * Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
 * Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor?  We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
 * Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

 * Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019.  They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space.  Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
 * Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more
The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

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Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019
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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help
What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages
The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor
The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards



 * On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
 * There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
 * Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar



 * In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
 * One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
 * New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
 * Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
 * Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania
The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

 * Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes.  The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
 * Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
 * Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November.  This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations.  The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

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Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools
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The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.



The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.


 * On 31 March 2020, the new tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias:  Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian.  If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
 * The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page.  The team will test features such as:
 * an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
 * a rich-text visual editing option, and
 * other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved"  section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

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Editing news 2020 #2 – Quick updates
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This edition of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. The central project page is on MediaWiki.org.


 * Reply tool : This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature will get new features soon.  The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing  . You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster.  Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
 * New requirements for user signatures : Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable.  Most editors will not be affected.
 * New discussion tool : The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions.   You can see the initial design on the project page.
 * Research on the use of talk pages : The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles.  We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

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Editing news 2020 #3


Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:


 * The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
 * More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
 * Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
 * The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
 * Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode.  You can enable it in your preferences.
 * On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor.
 * In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool became available.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello needed some help
Hi, I noticed that you have made quite a few edits regarding companies so I am assuming you have a fair bit of knowledge regarding the policies and guidelines on wikipedia relating to them. I had a few questions for you: 1) When updating financial information, would EBIT suffice as operating income? (since most companies don't have a standardised method for reporting operating expenses) 2) Should financials always be consolidated? 3) Regarding the company type, if a company is 51% owned by another entity but is also listed on a stock exchange, is it a subsidiary or a public company? 4) Would third party citations for financial information be preferred (over annual reports), since I've learnt that company sites and resources are often frowned upon on wikipedia.

Kindly mention on reply so I don't miss it. Thanks

 Debit pixie 💬 15:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) Yes EBIT is enough for operating income.
 * 2) Not sure about that.
 * 3) I think its best to mention public in type and name the parent company in the infobox
 * 4) Annual report from Company website is more than enough, Plus you can also use financial data from bse website both are good source. Perumalism (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) Annual report from Company website is more than enough, Plus you can also use financial data from bse website both are good source. Perumalism (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , Thanks for answering. Would a site like moneycontrol also be okay for financials? It is quite a reputable and popular source after all.  Debit pixie 💬 18:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Financial data from any reputable news site is allowed Perumalism (talk) 18:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your assistance! <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px lightskyblue, -4px -4px 20px hotpink"> Debit pixie 💬 06:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Create an article
Hi! Are you free! Please create an article for Lockup (2020 film) please this article already created but redirect into Nithin Sathya so please create please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4072:6E8C:B662:84B3:10E:DC69:5E5D (talk) 06:19, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the tags you added recently
Hi, I noticed that you added tags at the bottom of the constituent companies of the NIFTY 50 Index. I just wanted to let you know that the index is no longer called 'CNX NIFTY' as that was a name used when CRISIL owned a 49% stake in the company that owned the index (India Index Services and Products). In 2013, NSE acquired the 49% stake from Crisil thus making it a wholly owned subsidiary. Kindly note the first reference that explains the corporate structure, look under the year '1998'. I hope this doesn't come off as pedantic, I merely want to maintain consistency and accuracy accross all related pages. Thank you! <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px lightskyblue, -4px -4px 20px hotpink"> Debit pixie 💬 14:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thanks for the imformation, I am not aware of this change. Perumalism (talk) 15:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, even I found out about it only recently. It seems NSE Indices is only calling the index 'NSE NIFTY 50' or 'NIFTY 50' from what I've seen.
 * yes, the Nifty page was renamed in way back in 2016 Perumalism (talk)
 * Yes, I just noticed that the constituent pages are also corrected. That solves it! How do you edit so quickly though? I was wondering if there was some sort of wikipedia automation tool that I could use to make repetitive edits.
 * The change in Nifty 50 template is enough. Plus if you want any automation tool try AutoWikiBrowser, you need to request for permission before using it Perumalism (talk) 15:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I see, clever.... thanks for the automation tool, it seems I need quite a bit more edits and experience before I'll be allowed permission to use it. <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px lightskyblue, -4px -4px 20px hotpink"> Debit pixie 💬 15:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, at least 500 plus edits Perumalism (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I seem to have that much but I'll accumulate some more just in case <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px lightskyblue, -4px -4px 20px hotpink"> Debit pixie 💬 16:09, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, did wikipedia change stuff today?
I'm not sure if this is a bug/issue that only I'm facing but wikipedia seems to have changed a bunch of stuff without warning. Visual editing is missing, I can't find twinkle anymore and a bunch of other minor changes have really started to bug me. Have I messed up or did I miss something here? <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px lightskyblue, -4px -4px 20px hotpink"> Debit pixie 💬 14:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi i don't use Visual Editor. If issue continues you can report here  Perumalism (talk) 19:21, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks will do so! <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px lightskyblue, -4px -4px 20px hotpink"> Debit pixie  💬 19:23, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

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