User talk:Petergriffin9901/Archive 15

Underneath the Stars
Hey Nathan ! I hope you are fine :) Do you think that "Underneath the Stars" is ready to become a GAN ? Pixelyoshi (discuter) 13:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It has come up :) It might be because your browser needs some "refresh" lol :) Novice7 (talk) 06:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Nathan. Thanks for that. Well i tell you in a few minutes the part i want. Do you like "Best Thing I Never Had"?  Jivesh    •  Talk2Me  06:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * So far, I don't like any of the songs from 4 :(. I only have really listened to "1+1" a bit because I can appreciate its simplicity and rawness. Other than that nothing :S Sure! Let me know, I'll be on line a while :) How do you like it?-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   06:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * For "1+1" 1:04 to 1:33 (10%)

And for "BTINH" 0:58 to 1:25 (10%)

Jivesh   •  Talk2Me  06:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I totally love BTINH. It's my favorite song of the year. Lol.  Jivesh    •  Talk2Me  06:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Gotcha! I'll do them now :) Oh Jivesh, how did I know lol-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   06:36, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you mean you knew it was my favorite? Lol. Jivesh    •  Talk2Me  06:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I mean anyone will agree its better than "RTW" (Bleh) or the other two, so I figured you would like it lol. Plus the fact you love everything she does :P-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   06:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes i know. To tell you frankly, i cannot hate a Beyonce song. Even if it is totally bad, i will never say it is totally bad. Jivesh    •  Talk2Me  06:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol. BTW, I added both to each article :) Add whatever caption you'd like!-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   06:56, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * (Thank you) to the power of infinity. Jivesh    •  Talk2Me  07:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem my friend :)-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   07:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

(→) And Sauloviegas too. I'm embarrassed... Because I surfed Billboard (two weeks ago) and came upon a news which indicated Carey's singles sales in US (including "Underneath the Stars", "Forever", "Breakdown", etc.). I just thought, 'It's not important' but now, I'm not able to find it. Pixelyoshi (discuter) 12:31, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I nominated it and added your name 'cause you're the main editor. Pixelyoshi (discuter) 13:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Nadia Ali
Hey there, noticed your name from the GA nominations page and thought I'd ask you for some help. I've nominated the article on Nadia Ali for GA after a peer review and some major work on it. Could you please review through it and suggest any changes I need to make to get it to GA? Hassan514 (talk) 21:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * thank you so much! :) Hassan514 (talk) 15:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Howdy!
Thanks Nat! Hehe, I got permission from the author, and guess what you can use that image :P Just credit (like in Whitney Houston) the author as "Vanessa Ip" :) You don't like soul??? Novice7 (talk) 03:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I sent a Flickrmail :) Comments are ignored most of the time, but mails may get replies. Image uploaded and confirmed by Bot :) Oh yeah, too much of anything can make you sick, even the good can be a curse :P I've already started writing the article (yep, I take prints of the article, write it down on a paper and then type it in lol) Thanks for the source Nat, I'm searching MCarchives and MDJ too :D Novice7 (talk) 06:21, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I get bored easily lol. It took me, hmmm... let me see... one, two... six months to finish Irresistible :| Don't worry, CB will be done within Friday. Promise :) Yes, I have listened to Dion... A Soprano (isn't she?? I guess, a Dramatic Soprano??) It has become thin (evident when you listen to Falling into You and then Taking Chances or something 2008+). Novice7 (talk) 06:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll be away from June 23 :) I dropped the plan of "retiring for a year". I can't stay away from Wiki :) I'll be less active, that's all :D Thanks for helping me out on everything Nathan :) You're great. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 06:46, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Awww thanks :) Lol, good luck. I've compiled enough information for Recording Section, I guess. Btw, do you buy those online newspaper articles or "use the trick"? <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 08:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol me too. For Whitney articles, there's ClassicWhitney and Whitney-Fan, for Jessica articles, there's Sweetkisses.us and Jsimpson.net and MC articles there's MDJ and MCarchives :D The trick works for me sometimes :) <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 08:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I uploaded it (link). Why do I like Jessica Simpson? Well, I read that Brit, Xtina, Jess all came out in 1999 as "teen pop stars" but only the first two enjoyed success. I thought that Simpson was a dumb person with no talent. Later, I heard few of her songs and found out that she had some talent and could sing. I started researching about her and found out lots of stuff about her including her Background, influences, style of music etc. That's what made me love her. Her music is cool too, but the voice has a country twang lol. I love her as a person and a singer :) You're doing Critical reception section and few portions of Promotion (we're sharing that)?? <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 12:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Don't Forget About Us
Did you figure out the secret messages in the video ? Pixelyoshi (discuter) 10:24, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm working on this :) I noted the little girl in the "Shake It Off" video (like in "Fantasy"). At 0:31, I see the word "Mimi" on the wall :p Pixelyoshi (discuter) 10:57, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, a "Duets" album with her friend, Jermaine Dupri :) Maybe, there are another No. 1s singles. I don't automatically convert TEOM in French 'cause the translation is so bad. I prefer translate this by myself (it's so bad too lol). It's long but it keeps me busy :) Pixelyoshi (discuter) 11:33, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Re:Have you seen this
Hi Nathan, how are you? Yeah, I came across that, but I didn't want to say anything because I knew he was wasting his time trying to nominate it. That list will never pass for FA that easily as there is so much information (especially on certified sales) that may not be understood by reviewers. I was confident that the nominator himself couldn't explain if detailed questions were brought up, because he's never been involved in constructing the list :).--Harout72 (talk) 15:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

The Emancipation of Mimi GAN
Hi Peter. It appears that you're the nominator of the article. I actually tried to create the review page, but it seems it will automatically put my name there as the reviewer though I do not intend to become one (no extra time). Regardless, I just would like to point out one thing to help you get through GAN. This refers to the use of quotation marks. I have corrected / removed some off block quotes as MOS does not allow the use of this. Further, there's an inconsistent use of this punctuation. For example: "carping,"; "Mimi."; "Mimi", "Something's Got to Give.". What I mean is there's an inconsistent placement of the closing quotation mark. Maybe you'd be interested to visit this part of MOS for your guide: MOS. Also, the album Charmbracelet is heavily compared with Mimi at the lead. Probably you could trim that down, or generalize perhaps. Thanks. Good luck folks. Sure this one will be passed. --Efe (talk) 13:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, i applaud you for this. It is amazing. You are truly one of the most hard working editors. I can see how much you love MiMi. Jivesh   •  Talk2Me  13:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much Jivesh, I really appreciate that :) I did work very hard for this article, and tried to make sure it became some off my best work. Thanks! :)-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   15:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * You are most welcome my friend. Jivesh    •  Talk2Me  17:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I echo what Jivesh is saying :). Amazing article. calvin999 (talk) 21:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you Calvin :) Means a lot!-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   21:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, that should fare well in GAN. Hope to see the page in FAR. --Efe (talk) 04:22, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

A Favour
Hey, can you request for Only Girl (In the World) to be semi protected please? IP user 92.20.4.61 made 6 vandalism edits in 15 minutes on the charts section, adding a Bad Chart and mucking it up every time he/she edited. Calvin  • 9 9 9 14:12, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's okay, I've done it now. Calvin  • 9 9 9  14:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Mariah
Hi! thanx for the invite! I don't know if I have much time right now to edit articles... but I do try to edit small fixes to Mariah articles when I see them. Anyway, congrats on your amazing work! it's really impressive! I saw that you were working on the Charmbracelet album, I found 2 more reviews that you might want to consider: They're not favorable, but they might be helpful. ;-) MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 10:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * MusicOMH
 * NME
 * Ok then, I'll join! haha :D Here's another review that I found:

MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 14:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Canoe Jam!

Family Guy
Who is your favorite? Lemme guess..... your user name? — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 09:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * He he, I totally forgot that my user name is based off of him lol. Yeah, he's pretty cool, but I think Stewie takes the cake lol, agreed? I also enjoy South Park, ever watch that one? Lol, look what some trolling IP did to Glitter lol :P-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   15:32, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, Stewie definitely takes the cake. But I love what Peter does to Meg. Brian is boring as hell. I haven't watched South Park yet because it hasn't been shown here in India. And LMAO at that user, guess his name tells all. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 01:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Really!? Its so popular, for already like 14 years here. I'm not sure if it will work in India, but this is the official website that allows you to watch all the episodes free! Lol, agreed, I love the torture Peter puts meg through. Funny thing is she is played by Mila Kunis, who is quite attractive! BTW, did you watch the "Edge of Glory" video? Oy vay, I am very disappointed. I mean, where the F is the imagination? Like Joseph Kahn is well known, and this is the best he can come up with? Gaga dancing on a fire escape? Same crap with Ratner. He directs Freaking movies! and then I saw the "HATEU" video, I'm like, really, Mariah on a beach, you can't do better than this lol. Thing is, since all of Gaga's stuff is imaginative, expensive and crazy, people are bound to be disappointed with a boring and simple video. Didn't she say they were feeling fishy? I really thought she would play a mermaid :(-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   05:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I know Nat, its boring and uninspiring as hell. But the thing is Kahn did not direct this, its all Gaga's fault. Interscope confirmed the director as the Haus of Gaga. What really happened was that they shot the first day with the mermaid concept, but the second day, for some unknown dispute between Gaga and Kahn, she cancelled the shoot and the whole concept, just shot the scenes with Clemons in the NYC street and that's it. Probably Kahn's vision was not the one that Gaga approved, seeing that this song is pretty close to her heart, and she lost temper and fired him. That's just awful behavior on her part I must admit and the result is this crap-ass video. Lol, and people are attacking her choreographer Laurieann Gibson for mis-directing them with the video. Gibson is equally vocal about them, calling the monsters "disrespectful fuck" etc etc. Its a M-E-S-S at Twitter@boomkack. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 06:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, really? I didn't hear about that at all! That does make more sense, but kind of dumb on her part. I mean, this video will go nowhere, and I actually love the song :( I think the google commercial, plus additional scenes of Gaga would have been way better and more inspiring! I love that one. Lol, yes I can imagine the little monsters are probably sending her death threats rights about now haha. Yeah I just looked up her page. Lol, shes facing an army of haters! I guess she knows it was crappy too! It sucks that Kahn didn't get to do his thing, when saw it, I couldn't believe that was his work. Any ideas where Madge is going with this next album? I still hope she goes with the whole "Black Madonna" cover and theme, its really cool and controversial! I did not like anything about Hard Candy :(-- CallMe Nathan   •  Talk2Me   06:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hehe, nothing like a bit of juicy music biz gossip! Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:34, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thing is the song itself is universally well-liked. I hope that that comes forward more than the atrocity of the music video. And I also thought of another scenario. If the same video was released by any other artist, we would have said "how hot!", "killer bangs!", "smokin body!" etc, but its Gaga's fault that she has raised her bar so high that we always expect her to outperform the level of brilliance like "Bad Romance". Well sometimes it really doesn't happen. Anyways, crap video, I will pretend that the Google commercial is the music video and move on, lol. And Vadge hasn't given any indication where she's heading. If its another crap like Hard Candy, I'm done rooting for the old bag. Seems W.E is receiving rave reviews though. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 06:36, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup Ada, like a bunch of old gossiping ladies at temple lol :) Yep, agreed, I will pretend that it the video lol. As I said above, when every video is a high energy crazy production, of course a simple and underwhelming video is going to disappoint fans. Uch, I hope its not another Hard Candy! I really want something innovative and fresh, maybe teach Gaga how controversy is done, following the weak performance of "Judas" (I still am upset that song didn't do well! So good). But, I guess we'll have to wait and see for that one!-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   06:44, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's the funny fact, Britney tried singing live on her tour, failed again. *sipping tea* — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 07:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Haha you're so mean :P I love Britney! :) Yup, she did, but why, have you heard bad stuff about it? I heard it was really good. I'm even considering getting a ticket ;) What do you think of TGIF? I love it :D Much more than "E.T."! Its so fun and cute, it might actually become another flipping #1 single lol.-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   07:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I hated TGIF until the video came out. Now, I feel so-so towards it. It usually takes time for me to like a song... Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:43, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup, me too! Usually the longer it takes for me to like it, the longer and more I love it lol. When I love a song from the beginning, I get tired of it quickly. I love the song though, and the video is perfect!-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   09:57, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * TGIF is "awe-ssum", "eee-was awe-ssum". As for Britney, I'm not going to her tour again before I do some YouTube research and read some critical reception. I actually got free tickets, but denied since last time I wasted my money on the Circus Tour. I wanted to see Fatdele's tour, but I think there's a high chance it might be a snooze-fest. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 14:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol, yeah, but I might go anyway, I never saw her in concert so I might go with my friend :) I'm also going for Gaga's next tour, did you see her tour? And next time Vadge comes I might go as well. Lol, Fatdele, you are quite the relentless critic :P Yes, while I still don't think her voice is anything beyond "nice" I would not pay to see her. I mean, as you said, she spells "snoozefest", aside from the fact that I think she's lost her voice due to over-use so she's canceled a bunch of dates. BTW, have you noticed how much Xtina's voice has deteriorated? Her voice is totally shot, its like MC 1997-98 :)-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   15:29, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I went to all Gaga's tours, twice the Monster Ball because of its revision. Vadge's tour I'm never gonna miss. As for the voice divas, my theory is that they know too much about their voice. One of the problems with voice divas is that they don't take proper care of their vocal chords, because,lets face it,they overuse it. Unlike the performance artists like Gaga or Madonna, who rely on backing tracks, they sing the hell out of songs, but in retrospective underestimate their humane vulnerability, resulting in the larynx being hurt. Same thing happened to Mimi, Nippy, Arethra (although that may be because all her strength went into her boobs :P), Sinatra, Dion etc. They should take a leaf from classical singers and do hot water gurgle. :P — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 15:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Haha, well Aretha is insulted by your remarks, and wants you to know her breasts are not that big lol. Yes, I heard Vadge's tours are amazing, which is why I'm going next time! And Gaga, wow both times? Did she even go to India? I will definitely go to see her live as well. Yes those Diva's lose their voice quite soon in their careers, but of course, Mimi had and has more to lose than Whoretina, who is pretty much donzo lol. Yep, same for all of them, Dion struggles to speak nowadays, and Nippy is on a dialysis machine :D-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   16:12, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Damn, those are just matured egg-plants, not even boobs! Well may her boobs rest in peace. I see Ragedele replacing her soon. Actually none of our divas have toured in India. I see them in the US mostly where my job takes me frm time to time and during the Sticky & Sweet Tour I was working with Billboard anyways, so stayed at NYC. I loved the fact that Mimi named one of her child as Monroe, that's one of my favorite names. PS, I still hate Nick but love the fact that Mimi's returning to the pop genre with the fifteenth album. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 17:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol, yes they are! Ah I see, that's cool that you worked in a job in the industry. Yes, I like the name too, just not Moroccan lol, that one is still weird lol. Fifteenth? Woah there Legs, slow down, its her fourteenth :P I always wondered something. With a population of over 1 billion, why doesn't India have a large official music system (RIAA, BPI)? I mean, aside from poverty, how does a country (Canada) with 35 million people generate more album sales than a country with 1.2 billion.-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   17:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually it has, the IMI, but what pisses me is that they don't have a searchable database. And India is the fifth largest musical market, just that the music is not international music, but 90% Bollywood music. And lol, for some reason I thought MCIIY was her fourteenth album and MOAIA is her thirteenth. And ya, Moroccan is crap, that kid is doomed to be bullied for life, lol. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 07:14, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

(→)PS, you can fail Monster Ball now, as I really won't be having any time to correct it. You did a wonderful review, alas my time is not right. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 14:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, yeah I mean it should have a large music industry. Its funny that you are unique and enjoy american music even though you have a different culture etc. Its cool :) Are you sure? I mean I would prefer not to, I don't like to fail articles period. You sure you don't want a few more days?-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   00:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Very well then. If you want any recommendations during this time until its next nomination, then just ping me :)-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   09:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Nat for failing it. I really couldn't have done justice to it now, and would have probably made it more lousy, which I never want. I rather it not become GA than be crappier. Did you hear that Clarence Clemons who played saxophone in "The Edge of Glory" passed away? The music video was his last public appearance it seems. Somehow, its significance increased in my eye a little. Its bizarre how the song talks about the last moments on earth and how it became his "swan" song. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 12:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem Legs, I hope you are able to re-nom soon :) Yes I did :( I was very shocked when I heard. mean last I knew, he was steadily recovering after two brain surgeries. Yes, I completely agree, especially since he appeared live with Gaga, and it was his last live and filmed appearance (Idol and video) it definitely adds to the song for me. Its special that she got to feature him on that exact song right before he passed away. I'm sure it means a lot to her! BTW, what did you think of her on O'Grady? I think she did great! The bald cap is a very strong image and message, I liked it very much, and the vocals on "Hair" were Spot on! Spot on! (hehe), way better than her performance of it on GMA (morning performances are never that good vocally, ask Mariah lol.)-- CallMe Nathan   •  Talk2Me   13:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, her performances on O'Grady were pretty good and I definitely like "Hair" the best. That teal wig is really likable now, though she'll probably get over it by the end of this week. Lol, we all love Stewie, the closetted gay devil :). Brian is such a pompous bore, my god. By the way, you remember that 56tyvngsdg user who opposed every damn song FAC with ridiculous comments? Well he got his ass blocked for super socking. FAC is saved now. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 14:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, I like the wig too! It looks better than Rihanna's ugly red hair lol. Haha, he's blocked!? Lol, you forget to add a "Evil laughter" at the end of the announcement :) Yes, I am glad! I am hoping to soon nominate "TEOM", and people like that worry me.-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   14:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I haven't looked at TEOM because this time I wanna comment. Every time you guys nominate for FAC ya'all ask for my comments and then I cannot comment at the actual FAC, and that sucks. Lol, this time I'm not taking a look at anyone's article before they are at FAC. And I wish Nick would stop saying stupid statements like "Mariah is a new woman, much better blah blah". I mean, come'on give her a break, of course her perspectives towards life will change, she is a mom now. God I hate that guy, although not as much as I hate Jay-Z. And rih-slut-hanna's hair is just a cockroach cluster. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 14:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Haha, yeah, come to think of it, that is true and it does F up the FAC when it comes time for your vote lol. I'm confident in it, so we'll see soon after the GA finishes :) Lol, yeah, Nick is a bit annoying sometimes, for me he's just there, no hate, no love. Uch, HATE Jay-z, he's a bigot and racist, and I dislike Rih-slutta too, very un-real person. I'm happy though where MC is now. I've been researching for Glitter, and its really sad what MC went through in 2001. Though she will never and never did admit it, I believe she did attempt suicide in 2001 as a cry for help, and was really in a horrible place. I know her, so I'm not fooled, I totally know that Pat did have to call 911 that night for Mimi' safety. That's why I'm so happy for her now. As a mother, its so different, and I'm just in short so happy she experienced it~ :D BTW, I saw a clip on youtube of Vadge's "Truth or Dare". Lol, OY VAY! I saw a "bottle" scene, that's what I'll say haha :)-- CallMe Nathan   •  Talk2Me   14:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I dont know how old you were at that time, but yeah, it was pretty bad what was going through with her. And yes, she did try to end her life I believe. Now she has a reason to live for, her children. Even if Nick leaves her one day, she has Monroe and Moroccan (lmao) to look for. That's why trust me, this upcoming album of hers will be best, ala Ray of Light. And ya, Jay-Z and Feminem are both bigots and assholes in the name of human beings. As for Truth or Dare, well thing with Madge is that she has done things that no-one can ever do, and even if they do will be termed copycats. She herself can't top her now. I don't know what to expect with her new album, but not commercial prominence. This album will be lucky to scrape 250K in total. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 15:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I unfortunately completely agree. Its sad that she went through that. I was around 10-11 during that period, so no, I wasn't really in the know about it. Still though, very true. If ever she divorces, she has her children always, as Madge. I'm glad she was able to have two children. I know she had issues stemming from not being loved growing up (like Mimi) as she didn't have a mom from a young age, so itts great to know she has children that will always fill her with love. Yes, I'm hoping for this to be her ROL! Uch, yes I hate those two, even before Fem messed with MC, I always hated him. Pretty psycho guy! Lol, that is true. Gaga's starting to be that as well, people associate flashy things with Gaga, although M is obviously the original. Oh c'mon, not that little. While Madonna doesn't sell well in the US or Asia anymore, she still has strong fan-base in Europe, so I'm sure it will do well! She just better not be so lazy this time lol.-- CallMe Nathan  •  Talk2Me   21:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)